DNA 30 vs Mechanical Mod

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Not new to vaping but I'm a new member so I know what I'm talking about somewhat. Anyways my question is what are the pros of having a dna over a Mechanical mod besides the safety and consistency at 30 watts? I can go well over 30 watts on my mech. But lets say I were to put a micro coil on a mech with fewer wraps at .58 ohms with my sony 18650 4.2v charged (Which adds up to 30 watts) compared to a 1 ohm micro with more wraps at 30 watts on the dna 30. Would the DNA 30 have more vapor because it would be covering more surface area at the same amount of watts?
 

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The DNA I have seems to like higher Ohms more. I get more vapor from a .7 ohm build then I do from a .19. Yhe big problem with the DNA is when its below 4 volts its unregulated. I use the .19 build vaped at 25 watts its only supplying 2.8 volts. Vaping the .7 at 25 watts gives me 4.3 volts the extra voltage is making for much more vapor production. Now I'm not saying the .19 build isn't chucking some vapor it in fact is just not as much as the .7 build. now if I go Mech mod Authentic Panzer same 2 atomizers the .19 is better in vapor and much warmer. I prefer to vape the DNA30 personally, but there are better advantages for low builds using the Mech
 

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So would you recommend the DNA30? I see people like rip trippers blowing huge clouds out of them but he also seems like he's paid to say good things about it and I feel he either edits his videos or makes it look bigger somehow.. I could be wrong but even when I build the same stuff he does with the same ohms, gauge, everything on my mech it's no where close to his vapor.
 

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I'm pretty sure he has some sort of a lighting setup for his videos, which of course makes the vapor production appear greater. Trust me, your vaping the same he is. It helps to use high VG juice. I diy my own juice and have pure 100% VG, and the clouds from that stuff in a dripper are just stupid.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was dripping pure 100% VG for his videos. Notice you never observe him actually dripping.

I do love his videos and his coil builds though
 

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I would personally go for the DNA 30 over a mechanical it will allow you to get great vapor from higher ohm builds even up to 1.2 1.5 builds I have made some huge clouds. Brick is rite lighting is everything as is high res cameras and cold rooms 100Vg is surely a +.Set up a video camera In a well let room blow some clouds turn up the AC a chill the room and do it again then compare those videos to what your actual eye sees in person you'll see the camera makes the clouds look much bigger. Back to choosing a mod I have both types and like I said there are many cases where a mech shines, but in the end its all in the build that really makes or breaks the deal. for my money the DNA 30 gets the job done for pretty much all your needs and its much safer. I do personally use 100VG myself and I DIY my own juice
 
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Not new to vaping but I'm a new member so I know what I'm talking about somewhat. Anyways my question is what are the pros of having a DNA over a Mechanical mod besides the safety and consistency at 30 watts? I can go well over 30 watts on my mech. But lets say I were to put a micro coil on a mech with fewer wraps at .58 ohms with my sony 18650 4.2v charged (Which adds up to 30 watts) compared to a 1 ohm micro with more wraps at 30 watts on the DNA 30. Would the DNA 30 have more vapor because it would be covering more surface area at the same amount of watts?

You need to look at wire GAUGE .

If you were to put a micro coil on a mech with fewer wraps at .58 ohms 28 GAUGE with your sony 18650 4.2v charge (Which adds up to 30 watts) compared to a 1 ohm 28 GAUGE micro with more wraps at 30 watts on a DNA 30.

I think when you look at that you will agree the 1 ohm coil is going to be running at lot COOLER. Maybe even not hot enough.

The difference is with the mech, if you vape is too hot or too cold, you have to do over your coil.
With the DNA30, you can just adjust the voltage to suit - if too cold, raise the voltage; if too hot, reduce the voltage.

If you are running dual coils, it means you can pay more attention to adjusting the ohms on one coil to balance the two coils instead of having to adjust both to get the exact ohms you want.
 

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You need to look at wire GAUGE .

If you were to put a micro coil on a mech with fewer wraps at .58 ohms 28 GAUGE with your sony 18650 4.2v charge (Which adds up to 30 watts) compared to a 1 ohm 28 GAUGE micro with more wraps at 30 watts on a DNA 30.

I think when you look at that you will agree the 1 ohm coil is going to be running at lot COOLER. Maybe even not hot enough.

The difference is with the mech, if you vape is too hot or too cold, you have to do over your coil.
With the DNA30, you can just adjust the voltage to suit - if too cold, raise the voltage; if too hot, reduce the voltage.

If you are running dual coils, it means you can pay more attention to adjusting the ohms on one coil to balance the two coils instead of having to adjust both to get the exact ohms you want.

Not sure I get this at 1.1 ohm @ 25Watts I'm running 5.3 volts plenty warm enough vape and good vapor production.
 

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    Well if you make the coil 0.6 ohm of the same wire and run it at 25 watts also, the coil will be alot hotter, ....... right?

    Only if the coil is dry!

    What many fail to add into the equation is the cooling effect of the liquid and the air flow. You can make a 0.1 ohm coil way to cool if you want (once you know how)
     

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    Only if the coil is dry!

    What many fail to add into the equation is the cooling effect of the liquid and the air flow. You can make a 0.1 ohm coil way to cool if you want (once you know how)

    Ok fine let me try again:

    You wrap say 1 inch of wire and get a 1.1 ohm coil and run 25 watts.
    Then you wrap a half inch of wire (SAME GAUGE as above) and get about half ohm coil and run at 25 watts.

    Whats the difference; I described it as running hotter. How would you describe it.
     

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    25 watts is 25 watts, what you do with liquid and air will determine how hot it is. So yes if you were to run the two coils with the same liquid & air, one would taste hotter than the other. This is why we need to think about thermal dynamics instead of just ohms law.
    Think about an old dripping atomizer where the first hit was to cold, and the third hit was to hot. The only difference was how wet the wick was.
     

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    The DNA I have seems to like higher Ohms more. I get more vapor from a .7 ohm build then I do from a .19. Yhe big problem with the DNA is when its below 4 volts its unregulated. I use the .19 build vaped at 25 watts its only supplying 2.8 volts. Vaping the .7 at 25 watts gives me 4.3 volts the extra voltage is making for much more vapor production. Now I'm not saying the .19 build isn't chucking some vapor it in fact is just not as much as the .7 build. now if I go Mech mod Authentic Panzer same 2 atomizers the .19 is better in vapor and much warmer. I prefer to vape the DNA30 personally, but there are better advantages for low builds using the Mech

    This is pretty much gold right here. Well put my friend and I couldn't agree more. I vape a .7ohm dripper all day at 25 watts it's perfect.
     

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    The DNA I have seems to like higher Ohms more. I get more vapor from a .7 ohm build then I do from a .19. Yhe big problem with the DNA is when its below 4 volts its unregulated. I use the .19 build vaped at 25 watts its only supplying 2.8 volts. Vaping the .7 at 25 watts gives me 4.3 volts the extra voltage is making for much more vapor production. Now I'm not saying the .19 build isn't chucking some vapor it in fact is just not as much as the .7 build. now if I go Mech mod Authentic Panzer same 2 atomizers the .19 is better in vapor and much warmer. I prefer to vape the DNA30 personally, but there are better advantages for low builds using the Mech
    How are you firing a .19 ohm coil with a DNA 30? According to datasheet from Evolv it will only fire down to .5 ohms, in addition, there is no step down circuitry in the DNA 30 so there is no way you're going to be firing a .19 ohm coil at 2.8 volts.
     
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