DNA 40, NR, Nickel Builds

[xtwosm0kesx]

I've a got a v1 board from the first ECF coop that, oddly enough, only exhibits the screen glitch when its been sitting in the cold for long period of time.

Even with the screen scramble the mod still fires/works 100% normally and the screen resets after it goes to sleep again.

Honestly it happens so incredibly rarely and fixes itself so quickly it doesn't bother me, at least not enough to send it in.

Though, when i get closer to the end of my year warranty i may send it in, just because why not.

 

[HolmanGT]

Interesting. Everytime I've mentioned screen scramble on this forum, everyone has turned their nose up at it saying "it has nothing to do with performance". I always felt like that was a lazy answer for people who just really want it to be user error.

I'll have to look into this, would you by chance have a link available?

Insomaniac,

Sorry the strongly got changed to "strangled". I don't know if I had a brain malfunction or the autocorrect spellchecker got me.

I believe what "SavePaper" is saying BUT to the best of my knowledge there was the Screen Scramble that effected operation and in newer versions the relation between screen scramble and operation were separated so that one was not linked to the other.

Anyway SavePaper has a much higher tolerance for this problem than I do and apparently you also.

I personally would get it fixed quickly they know of the problem and this far into the game I doubt you will get another bad board.

That said I heard that Vapor Flask was sending out loaners to folks while theirs was in for repair which would help take the edge off o being without. Please don't take my word for it on the loaner call them contact them online and see what they say about loaners and what you should do.

And remember there are three screen failure modes to the best of my knowledge:
1 Scramble and effect operation
2 Scramble and doesn't effect operation
3 Screen freeze and I don't know what that does to the operation. Mine had this problem and I just RMAed it and they fixed it.

PS - my unit is a Vapor Flask but the problems we are talking about here are common to the DNA40 not the Modder Brand.

 

[HolmanGT]

I've a got a v1 board from the first ECF coop that, oddly enough, only exhibits the screen glitch when its been sitting in the cold for long period of time.

Even with the screen scramble the mod still fires/works 100% normally and the screen resets after it goes to sleep again.

Honestly it happens so incredibly rarely and fixes itself so quickly it doesn't bother me, at least not enough to send it in.

Though, when i get closer to the end of my year warranty i may send it in, just because why not.

Well I have finally met two Vapers that don' have OCD you and SavePaper. you guys are vaping anomalies.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

Well I have finally met two Vapers that don' have OCD you and SavePaper. you guys are vaping anomalies.

Oh I do, after 3 RMA I'm waiting for the supposed fixed chips to get into the rDNA stream. In not settling.

 

[HolmanGT]

Oh I do, after 3 RMA I'm waiting for the supposed fixed chips to get into the rDNA stream. In not settling.

ROTFLMAO!

Ok - I understand why you want to wait. But my OCD makes me so crazy I would have to RMA knowing it might be a Crap-Shoot.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

ROTFLMAO!

Ok - I understand why you want to wait. But my OCD makes me so crazy I would have to RMA know it might be a Crap-Shoot.

Well, I have an ipv4 that should be here soon so I'll send it in when that arrives.

 

[xtwosm0kesx]

Well I have finally met two Vapers that don' have OCD you and SavePaper. you guys are vaping anomalies.

I vaped a first round, V1 Cloupor Hana clone for 5 months, if i was OCD, i would have spun off the planet LOOOONG ago...LOL.

Interesting fact, after i got my DNA40 built up and retired the Cloupor i realized that it would drain a full 18650 in two days without even firing it once.

It served me well though and will always have special place in my heart. Sort of.

 

[Woofer]

ROTFLMAO!

Ok - I understand why you want to wait. But my OCD makes me so crazy I would have to RMA knowing it might be a Crap-Shoot.

Your OCD makes me crazy too!

 

[RandyF]

It does have nothing to do with performance. I'm waiting a couple weeks to RMA mine with the problem though because it's been fixed, but the new chips were just sent out a couple weeks ago. This will give vaporshark some time to get them into the lineup. As for now, I just ignore it or let it sit for a minute and it's gone.

I emailed VS a couple days ago asking when they might have some boards in that they were confident would not exhibit the screen scramble. They emailed me back today saying they are 100% sure the boards they have now will be glitch free, so I will be RMA'ing mine tomorrow.

@Holman, the Vapor Flasks (and the Hana's) had build issues, in relation to the board, of their own, separate from the issues with the board itself, which is why the problems seemed like so many in the beginning. I believe it was a grounding issue, I'm not sure though, since I didn't get either of those I didn't follow it closely.

Vapor Shark response,

Victor Guerrero (Vapor Shark)

Mar 18, 14:12

Hey Randall,
We do have replacement DNA boards that we know %100 do not have screen glitching issues. If you would like to replace the DNA chip at this time, please let me know and we can start the repair process. There is no need to go to the brick and mortar as we can handle the repair ourselves.
-Victor

 

[HolmanGT]

I emailed VS a couple days ago asking when they might have some boards in that they were confident would not exhibit the screen scramble. They emailed me back today saying they are 100% sure the boards they have now will be glitch free, so I will be RMA'ing mine tomorrow.

@Holman, the Vapor Flasks (and the Hana's) had build issues, in relation to the board, of their own, separate from the issues with the board itself, which is why the problems seemed like so many in the beginning. I believe it was a grounding issue, I'm not sure though, since I didn't get either of those I didn't follow it closely.

Vapor Shark response,

Victor Guerrero (Vapor Shark)

Mar 18, 14:12

Hey Randall,
We do have replacement DNA boards that we know %100 do not have screen glitching issues. If you would like to replace the DNA chip at this time, please let me know and we can start the repair process. There is no need to go to the brick and mortar as we can handle the repair ourselves.
-Victor

Randy,

I heard and read some post talking about grounding issues but I think I got lost between the commercial mods and the home built ones. Kind of lost track of whom was talking about which unit. Argh!

@Woofer, well I try to keep my OCD level that makes everyone miserable. No fun being there alone.

 

[RandyF]

People were blaming everything on faulty boards. I can only imagine how many RMA's there were because people simply don't understand the intricacies of working with nickel coils. Hence a good amount of perfect scratch and dent models....lol. If I was Victor from VS though, I think, given the last few months, I would have stated 99.95% sure the current boards are glitch free.

I kinda wish my first run rDNA40 would glitch so I could get a new board, but it has been flawless.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

People were blaming everything on faulty boards. I can only imagine how many RMA's there were because people simply don't understand the intricacies of working with nickel coils. Hence a good amount of perfect scratch and dent models....lol. If I was Victor from VS though, I think, given the last few months, I would have stated 99.95% sure the current boards are glitch free.

I kinda wish my first run rDNA40 would glitch so I could get a new board, but it has been flawless.

Well, I've had 4 rdna devices, all with a glitched screen. I highly doubt a high percentage of the boards are glitch free.

 

[Hemptation]

I have 3 dna40 devices. And no glitchy screens. Lol.

And yea randy. The inside of my Vs rdna looks messier than that. Hot glue all over the place , words not tucked nice and neat. I am getting it fixed up tho. No worries. As long as it performs I don't really care Just surprised to see a 200$ device and it not be clean.

Yea my fields gen hana 40 will only take certain toppers due to the fixed SS pin. Instead of floating or spring loaded. Whatever is in my 2nd. I have it getting it updated as well. Lol.

And I agree. Lots of problems from lack of build experience and communication Dealing with nickel n the beginning.

 

[taxciter]

Don't forget - when the DNA is reading a too-high resistance during operation, one test you can do is to wet a wick with 100% water and see if the temp readout stays near 212°F (100°C). You can also watch for hot spots as the water boils off.

 

[HolmanGT]

Don't forget - when the DNA is reading a too-high resistance during operation, one test you can do is to wet a wick with 100% water and see if the temp readout stays near 212°F (100°C). You can also watch for hot spots as the water boils off.

taxciter,

The water trick is "Classic". I did that awhile back just because I don't trust any think "Doubting Thomas". I took a clean wick wet it with tap water and my DNA40 sat ad 209 F absolutely solid. I don't know if the slight variation between 209 and 212 is a product of the Tap Water, My altitude 4000 ft and/or the tolerance of the DNA40.

That said I was very impressed and to anyone that thinks there DNA40 is not holding temperature within specifications give the water test a go and get ready for a pleasant surprise.

 

[ThunderDan]

Anybody have a good nickel build for the derringer RDA?

This is what I've got right now:

I don't think I'm supposed to push it toward the middle like that, but it was the only way I could see getting some wicking material in there. IIRC its like 10 wraps of 28g ni200 on a 6-32 machine screw.

I'm open to suggestions on improving it.

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[JimmyDB]

Anybody have a good nickel build for the derringer RDA?

This is what I've got right now:

I don't think I'm supposed to push it toward the middle like that, but it was the only way I could see getting some wicking material in there. IIRC its like 10 wraps of 28g ni200 on a 6-32 machine screw.

I'm open to suggestions on improving it.

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This is what I made a while ago...

Works better than it looks

 

[ThunderDan]

This is what I made a while ago...

Works better than it looks

Nice. What did you wrap the 32g around?

 

[JimmyDB]

Nice. What did you wrap the 32g around?

I think it was an E string... 0.44mm, used and had snapped.

 

[TheKiwi]

Decided to bust out my 30ga Ni200 which I swore off earlier. Worked out pretty well with the TGT 2

Steam engine says it's supposed to be 0.2 ohms, but im getting a 0.24 reading now. GONNA hafta wait for refinement to kick in. I can tell it's also off (higher than actual) with the excessive burst at the start.

But so far so good! VAPING like a boss


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