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puffon

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    Fogger V4.3 with drilled wire posts, airflow and top filling.

    Twisted two strands of NI200 32 Gauge reinforced by 26 Gauge NI200 leads. Wicked with Rayon (double pen)

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    Nice build!

    Where are you finding the 26ga Ni200?
     

    Kataphraktos

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    There is a picture of the nautilus BVC Temperature Sensing Coil on Vapor Shark's Facebook page. There is no ETA as to when the coils will be available. :( Also, the coil is pictured with aqua ( Vapor Shark's corporate color) o-rings. The colored o-rings makes me wonder if Vapor Shark contracted with Aspire to make the heads specifically for them.
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    Doubt it, the original ask for aqua o-rings was by Atmistique, as that is their signature color. They are now showing up with other vendors, as there is obviously no exclusive on o-ring colors.
     

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    I wonder how well the nautilus would actually work with nickel coils because of the ultra low resistance. As we know now connectivity issues are quite problematic. For example my nautilus has some kind of spring between the positive pin and the replaceable coil. Or how the coil legs are connected to the case with the rubber grommet thingy. Not sure if any of that is really a problem though.

    On my rebuilds I haven't had any connectivity issues.

    Quick update for those interested - now using 10 wraps of 30 gauge on a slightly larger diameter screw. Nominal ID of coil is just a few thousandths over 3/32" (what I used to drill out the new wicking holes - the stock holes are plugged). Wicks better and hits temp limit a little later.
     
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    ? If I typically built an addy with Kanthal to be 1.5ohm

    What would be the equivalent resistance, building with Ni200? (approximate) to get the same vape qualities as the 1.5 Kanthal?

    I expect to be sternly corrected. :) 1.5 is my standard Kayfun/Russian 91 Kanthal build: 8 wraps on a 3/32 drill bit.

    On N200 I have wanted (slightly) more wick (Koh Gen Doh), so I use a 3 mm screwdriver with 11 wraps, giving me 0.16. I cannot tell any difference between builds of 0.16 and 0.20-ish.
     

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    ? If I typically built an addy with Kanthal to be 1.5ohm

    What would be the equivalent resistance, building with Ni200? (approximate) to get the same vape qualities as the 1.5 Kanthal?
    Well in theory with the DNA40 it wont really matter with TP
    But lets say I want to use a kayfun, knowing what I know and learned by using kayfuns 1.3 to 1.5 ohm and 18 to 20 watts max before horrid burnt taste on a standard regulated mod.
    DNA40 I found .15 to .2 ohm 20 to 25 watts same kayfun 3.1 temp set at 450 vapes just fine.

    Now take the Lemo way more airflow than the kayfun 3.1 on my IPV3 I run .7-.8 ohm 28ga even spaced parallel coils 30,40,50,60 watts no problem 50/60 watts being warmer than I like, but never a burnt taste, chucking clouds like a choo choo with awesome flavor.

    Lemo on the DNA40 I run 0.1 to 0.17 ohm 450/470 degrees depending on the juice, 30/35 watts chucking clouds like a choo choo with awesome flavor.
     

    puffon

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    I expect to be sternly corrected. :) 1.5 is my standard Kayfun/Russian 91 Kanthal build: 8 wraps on a 3/32 drill bit.

    On N200 I have wanted (slightly) more wick (Koh Gen Doh), so I use a 3 mm screwdriver with 11 wraps, giving me 0.16. I cannot tell any difference between builds of 0.16 and 0.20-ish.

    That about what I am going to try, when I get the 40...
     

    puffon

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    Well in theory with the DNA40 it wont really matter with TP
    But lets say I want to use a kayfun, knowing what I know and learned by using kayfuns 1.3 to 1.5 ohm and 18 to 20 watts max before horrid burnt taste on a standard regulated mod.
    DNA40 I found .15 to .2 ohm 20 to 25 watts same kayfun 3.1 temp set at 450 vapes just fine.

    Now take the Lemo way more airflow than the kayfun 3.1 on my IPV3 I run .7-.8 ohm 28ga even spaced parallel coils 30,40,50,60 watts no problem 50/60 watts being warmer than I like, but never a burnt taste, chucking clouds like a choo choo with awesome flavor.

    Lemo on the DNA40 I run 0.1 to 0.17 ohm 450/470 degrees depending on the juice, 30/35 watts chucking clouds like a choo choo with awesome flavor.

    Thanks!
    That will get me started.
     

    MattB101

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    I don't have my 40 box built yet but I have build a couple of nickle coils. They seemed to be stiff enough to wick up. Are they really that hard. Another question, what's better, a coil like I always build for my Kayfun - a micro/macro coil with no gaps or, the kind I used to build when rebuilding my Vivi Nova coils with the gaps between the coils? I'm hoping no gap cause they are a lot easier for me just from all the practise I've had since I got ny Kayfuns and started dripping as well.

    Looking for something new that I like. Watch this space for new wit, halfwit, nitwit...
     

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    I don't have my 40 box built yet but I have build a couple of nickle coils. They seemed to be stiff enough to wick up. Are they really that hard. Another question, what's better, a coil like I always build for my Kayfun - a micro/macro coil with no gaps or, the kind I used to build when rebuilding my Vivi Nova coils with the gaps between the coils? I'm hoping no gap cause they are a lot easier for me just from all the practise I've had since I got ny Kayfuns and started dripping as well.

    Looking for something new that I like. Watch this space for new wit, halfwit, nitwit...

    I've very limited experience with ni200 so far. I would prefer using 28ga but resistance normally ends up too low, so I'm using 30ga. It's pretty soft. Some folks are hardening the wire before coiling and that probably helps. My other problem is that I am also new to rayon and I might just be using way too much.. But I can't taste anything wrong so I am trying to add a lot anyway.

    I agree with you on contact coils being easier since it's what I was used to building on kayfuns, I still haven't tested spaced coils with ni200 so I can't comment. I always liked contact coils better when using kanthal.

    Time to wick attempt #3, will try to post some pics in a bit
     

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    I don't know what that is?

    Looking for something new that I like. Watch this space for new wit, halfwit, nitwit...

    It's quite simple really: You insert some Rayon from one side and some from the other. Then you pull both pieces toward each-other on the same time. That way you will achieve the right density that Rayon wick requires without massing up your coil.

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