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Do It Yourself Naturally Extracted Tobaccos Chat

Discussion in 'Liquid Extraction From Tobacco' started by Doffy, Aug 11, 2019.

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  1. Doffy

    Doffy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2014
    Australia
    I do sometimes enjoy the Natural Tobaccos Part 2 Thread. But, my eyes tend to glaze over, and I consider stabbing myself when it gets too focused on premix from NET vendors

    Papaws thread excludes me. It is the opposite of what I like. Latakia is my favourite, and his OP specifically says his thread is the opposite of latakia "at the front"

    I've had a black cavendish macerating around 5 months
    Recently knocked up a latakia blend from a bulk smokingpipes tobacco

    I'm in Australia. Taxes here suck. I used to import pipe tobaccos for $3 a ounce, compared to $60 here. But, 1st July saw loose tbacco added to the prohibited import list. So now I don't just take the tax gamble, it'd be a yuge fine, or jail time

    So, I'll have to look local, and pay lots :cry:

    I only lightly filter. And mix around 1 or 2 percent flavour. Dark aromatics

    Not many seem to agree :(

     
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  2. ST Dog

    ST Dog Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 23, 2013
    Rocket City
    That really sucks. Let me guess no public discussion on the change.


    Gotta love the exemption for cigars and oral use tobacco.
     
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  3. Doffy

    Doffy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2014
    Australia
    I didn't hear of any :(
    But, I didn't go searching either.

    We can still import snus, just pay tax on arrival. From what I can tell, nasal snuff is gone, and not available locally.

    I might try cigar lotto, they are not prohibited either, just taxed $1 p/gram. And make good NETs
     
  4. Str8vision

    Str8vision Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2013
    Sallisaw, Oklahoma USA
    I like Latakia and have extracted dozens of Latakia forward tobacco blends. I also prefer strong (as apposed to lighter more nuanced) flavor. My current favorite Latakia blend is Cornell and Diehl "Constellation no. 411", it's one of Cornell & Diehl's oldest blends and it's available in bulk. It's a blend of Burley, Cavendish, Latakia and Virginia tobaccos but Latakia is the star of the show.

    Other robust Latakia blends worth mentioning;
    • Dunhill "Nightcap"
    • Cornell & Diehl "Mississippi Mud"
    • Cornell & Diehl "Pirate Kake"
    • Tsuge "Ryujin" - no longer available
    • The Smoker "St James" - no longer available, my all time favorite extract
     
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  5. Str8vision

    Str8vision Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2013
    Sallisaw, Oklahoma USA
    So loose leaf tobacco is prohibited for import but I wonder if that includes tobacco extract suspended in PG or VG?
     
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  6. Doffy

    Doffy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2014
    Australia
    i'll keep an eye out for those here

    Scandinavian Tobacco Group (STG) - Drexel VI (Drexel) - Tobacco Reviews
    this was nice, but i can't get it locally, and now can't import it

    and, i gifted most of it, since i was proud. And figured i could get more
     
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  7. Doffy

    Doffy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2014
    Australia
    no, they made a statement to that effect
    no effect on liquids
     
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  8. Str8vision

    Str8vision Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2013
    Sallisaw, Oklahoma USA
    Considering the taxes over there, would it be less expensive for you to buy/import extracts rather than making your own? How much does 30 grams of premium pipe tobacco cost you? I pay less than $3, in many cases (bulk tobaccos) around $1.90.
     
  9. Doffy

    Doffy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2014
    Australia
    around $50

    i'd need to import liquid, laws again
    and shipping makes it stupid
     
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  10. PapawBrett

    PapawBrett Travelin' Man Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 16, 2012
    Monroe NC
    I didn't mean to offend with the thread I started, it just seemed milder DIY NET's didn't really have a home.
    I kinda agree on your assessment on the Natural Tobaccos thread. Mostly Vendor talk, and I started drifting away from that market once I got a few NET's I liked at home.
    I'd offer to send some extracts (used to get them to a now deceased friend in Thailand) but I don't know if you would care for any of my liquids. "Aroma Oils" seem to go through Customs fairly well....
     
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  11. Doffy

    Doffy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2014
    Australia
    It's OK. No offense. Just like you, felt a bit homeless
     
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  12. YearsOfCigars

    YearsOfCigars Full Member

    Jun 23, 2019
    California
    That's funny ! "homeless".. that is exactly how some of us felt when we posted about Tobacco NET and were treated as a red-headed step child at some of the major social media / blog BBS systems around the net So a (very small group) of us started a niche / boutique BBS where we can post about DIY Tobacco NET. It is not a 'hand holding/ how do I make this/" place. It is for those of us that have the basics down and want to move on to more technical and more precise flavor profile discussions. You are all welcome to stop by and see what you think.

    Just FYI: at our site: latakia and pure leaf and cased are all spit off with their own tasting categories. the link: http://diy-tobacco-net.epizy.com/index.php

    If you have well written flavor tasting profile critiques you would like to post, then that is more than welcome.
     
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  13. PapawBrett

    PapawBrett Travelin' Man Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 16, 2012
    Monroe NC
    Is it wrong to start a wish list in October for tobaccos I will order in December or January ?
     
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  14. PapawBrett

    PapawBrett Travelin' Man Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 16, 2012
    Monroe NC
    Looking at some Daughters' and Ryan blends, Three Sails and Ramback Gold.
    Anyone have any experience with these ?
     
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  15. Boscovlle

    Boscovlle Full Member Verified Member

    Feb 14, 2018
    I've tried their Perique, Picayune, and Ramback. All were good. They also sell NET ejuice. The juices are kinda expensive but very strong. If you're buying the tobacco it's also sold on "Pipes & Cigars" in one ounce increments.
     
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  16. FranC

    FranC TWR Co-Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Oct 1, 2010
    New Hampshire
    Of course not:)
     
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  17. PapawBrett

    PapawBrett Travelin' Man Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 16, 2012
    Monroe NC
    Might as well put it here...
    Last Friday I called Customer Service at pipes&cigars.net to ask if they would accept reviews from the vaping community. They said they would love to hear what I said, so I submitted very positive reviews of four of my favorite purchases. In the "Write a Review" page it specifies that a "third party" reviews their submissions.
    Glancing over the P&C website (everything I want is in stock, for now) I see that my reviews have been accepted !
    :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
     
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  18. SCOTT-3

    SCOTT-3 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2012
    london u.k
    Just sampled my net mix which is against the grain to most, A 5 day cold masaration of olb Holborn & golden Virginia UK tobacco with 0.5 Bulgarian tobacco absolute with 3 hours heated ultrasonic, Seated taking a few puff's the flavour instant flash back to the early 70s as a young lad chilling out with father beer shearing a pipe loaded with Ogdens St Julien which was a aromatic Virginia, What I'm getting now, Fantastic.
     
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  19. PapawBrett

    PapawBrett Travelin' Man Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 16, 2012
    Monroe NC
    Whatever works for you is best ! I have to ask, to you filter out the tobacco before or after the ultrasonic ?
     
  20. SCOTT-3

    SCOTT-3 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2012
    london u.k
    As I'm using shredded tobacco with a 50/50 Pg VG I mix twice a day for 5, Filter, Then mix 30. Percent concentrate with v/g then use ultrasonic, Having had years of the long steep, This qwick process is working fine for me the flavours there without tomuch of the gunky sugars from the Virginias, As a note I'm using 6 grams to 100ml Pg VG total extract 50ml.
     
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