do LR attys kill ego batteries?

[Scottbee]

So of course I read this thread today and find out if I understand correctly the only dif between this and the Joye510 is a bigger battery? No better or more consistent performance other that battery? Then why are most screaming from the rooftops get an EGO?
I kept hearing tons of vapor and such...hope I didn't just throw my cash out the window here on the choir preaching EGO!
Did I?

Well.. generally speaking in broad strokes.. a "larger" battery will usually give you "more consistent" performance over a smaller battery since it will have less internal voltage drop (it will deliver more voltage), and it will deliver that "consistent" voltage longer between charges due to the higher capacity. Also, the eGo/Riva style units have the cone.. which is more than just an aesthetic feature.. it has a performance "benefit" also.

And if you're going to dabble in LR atties or cartomizers.... you're out of luck with the smaller batteries (150mAH, 180mAH, 280mAH, etc..).

 

[Zen~]

I bought an ego kit back in August and all I have used on the batteries since I've had it are cisco LR 510s and 306s. I passed it on to my father to use the beginning of November and all he has used are the same atties and both of the batteries are still going strong.

Now I do believe that very low LR stuff COULD cause problems with Ego batteries if the user hammers on them and overheats the atty and mosfets in the batteries. Just taking a little care and giving the atty and the battery a little time to cool down every few vapes seems to keep the Ego batteries going just fine.

Just my two cents and experience with this issue.

Oh OK, I'm glad you cleared all of this up... Since you have not had a battery go, then nobody will... Based on your personal experience and endorsement, we should all go about our business without fear of anything breaking and of course we send you the bill for the stuff when it fails.

You do realize suppliers have warned about the issue, based on items that have failed in warranty, right?

 

[mauzey]

Oh OK, I'm glad you cleared all of this up... Since you have not had a battery go, then nobody will... Based on your personal experience and endorsement, we should all go about our business without fear of anything breaking and of course we send you the bill for the stuff when it fails.

You do realize suppliers have warned about the issue, based on items that have failed in warranty, right?

Zen: Sorrids opinion is the same as mine, I may lose a couple of batts but I am not going to fret about it, vaping with a LR 510 atty's with eGo batteries is a better vaping experience that may cause a premature battery failure. If people only have one battery on hand, they may not want to take the chance. But it is their choice, I am certainly not going to blame sorrid or anybody but myself.

Thanks

 

[Zen~]

Zen: Sorrids opinion is the same as mine, I may lose a couple of batts but I am not going to fret about it, vaping with a LR 510 atty's with eGo batteries is a better vaping experience that may cause a premature battery failure. If people only have one battery on hand, they may not want to take the chance. But it is their choice, I am certainly not going to blame sorrid or anybody but myself.

Thanks

I actually agree with you, but your opinion and justification is quite different than sorrid's.

 

[throatkick]

Then why are most screaming from the rooftops get an EGO?

Today, I wouldn't know a watt from a volt or an ohm from a ultra-mega-jigawatt.

However, the reason they are screaming EGO is because Joye found a sweet spot and have created a very popular delivery platform that addresses the needs of the vast majority. Can you imagine a secretary in some fancy building going on smoke break and pulling out some crack pipe looking device? You could talk to her about ohms but probably no sale.

This thread is exceptionally informative for the let's saaaaay........"the purist" Someone who has been through the entire cycle, is searching for something extra and has the knowledge to create and maintain such devices.

I don't think you threw your money away..... Let's learn something from the technical folks and maybe try to build a good mod in the near future

 

[Zen~]

Can you imagine a secretary in some fancy building going on smoke break and pulling out some crack pipe looking device

I'm getting sick and tired of this analogy from people that have obviously never seen a crack pipe. I've yet to see ANY PV that even remotely resembles a crack pipe...

Crack pipes are usually glass tubes.

 

[undertheradar]

I use a Tekkeon 1800 battery pack (like they use to make the Tekk Mod) and a passthrough for vaping low res. I paid $63 total for the best batt mod I've ever tried.
Flavors are way better at 4000 mAh! <oO)


How do I include an analog-free counter banner like you guys have in your posts? Third day for me.

 

[throatkick]

I'm getting sick and tired of this analogy from people that have obviously never seen a crack pipe. I've yet to see ANY PV that even remotely resembles a crack pipe...

Crack pipes are usually glass tubes.

1. I am proud to not have much knowledge about crack or the pipes
2. I didn't come here to .... heads over crack pipe designs.
3. You may be tired of the analogy but the essence of the argument holds very true. Most are odd, specialized devices. Besides, for you to grow tired of it, it means that countless others have used it.
Guess what many will think if they see it in public?
4. As per another thread, you appear to be on a mission to create something better
5. I will gladly donate a Leo atty for that mission.

Oh and while we are at it, I would appreciate it if you could kindly provide the names of a few good, solid, reliable, 5v models that have a more "conventional" look. I am interested in purchasing one. Pm me or something.....

Sorry to hog thread folks....

 

[mlinky]

Ive been reading and reading for weeks here! All this time most everyone says in just about every newby post get an EGO get an EGO! Then I find out the Riva is supposedly just as good but has a bigger battery stock (750 compared to 650) out of the basic starter kit at a way better price and 510 parts are easy to find and reasonably priced so I pulled the trigger on a Riva last night! Was pretty happy with the decision and eagerly waiting for my package to arrive!
So of course I read this thread today and find out if I understand correctly the only dif between this and the Joye510 is a bigger battery? No better or more consistent performance other that battery? Then why are most screaming from the rooftops get an EGO?
I kept hearing tons of vapor and such...hope I didn't just throw my cash out the window here on the choir preaching EGO!
Did I?

No, the eGo/Riva is a highly serviceable item with battery life that lasts people far beyond the time it takes to charge the back up. The bigger battery is a big deal for most smokers. It is threaded 510, which means that it is non-proprietary so the attys can be used on other PVs and there are many options available for replacement parts and upgrades. The reason you hear so many people recommending the eGo/Riva is that Liberty Flights started offering these kits at $30/$40, which is a great price for a very good piece of equipment. That doesn't mean that it is necessarily "better" than other options, but why pay $70 for a KR8 kit or $50 for a standard 510, when the eGo performs as well or better for 1/2 the price?

 

[uba egar320]

No, the eGo/Riva is a highly serviceable item with battery life that lasts people far beyond the time it takes to charge the back up. The bigger battery is a big deal for most smokers. It is threaded 510, which means that it is non-proprietary so the attys can be used on other PVs and there are many options available for replacement parts and upgrades. The reason you hear so many people recommending the eGo/Riva is that Liberty Flights started offering these kits at $30/$40, which is a great price for a very good piece of equipment. That doesn't mean that it is necessarily "better" than other options, but why pay $70 for a KR8 kit or $50 for a standard 510, when the eGo performs as well or better for 1/2 the price?

I wouldn't say it's a highly serviceable pv. If the battery goes, it's done. Lot's of other mods have replaceable batteries, and switches. Nothing better than being able to get your pv back up and running if you have a failure while out and about.

 

[mlinky]

I wouldn't say it's a highly serviceable pv. If the battery goes, it's done. Lot's of other mods have replaceable batteries, and switches. Nothing better than being able to get your pv back up and running if you have a failure while out and about.

And I'd say that while it may have been a mod, it is no longer a mod. Less of a learning curve for a noob and you will not get a reliable mod with batteries and charger for $30. Apples to oranges.

 

[Sorrid]

You do realize suppliers have warned about the issue, based on items that have failed in warranty, right?

As supplier wouldn't you want to want to protect yourself in the same situation? This is no different than mod makers saying they do not recommend using their mods with stacks batteries but many upon many people love using their mods at six volts with stacked batteries and do so everyday.

I never said the Ego batteries would never fail using using very low LR atomizers, I simply stated my experience in doing so. Variances in the components used in the manufacturing process probably plays a bigger part in whether an Ego battery survives being used with true LR atomizers or fails then anything else. In reality all it might take for a battery to fail is an overlooked cold solder joint or a slightly misplaced part on the pcb board.

What it really boils down to is that people have been made aware of the possibility of battery failure and it is up to the user to decide whether or not he/she wants to take the chance of having a battery go bad to get that 7-8 watt sweet spot out of the Ego.

 

[Zen~]

What it really boils down to is that people have been made aware of the possibility of battery failure and it is up to the user to decide whether or not he/she wants to take the chance of having a battery go bad to get that sweet spot out of the Ego.

And this is true, and it's what you should have said in the first place.

 

[uba egar320]

And I'd say that while it may have been a mod, it is no longer a mod. Less of a learning curve for a noob and you will not get a reliable mod with batteries and charger for $30. Apples to oranges.

But how many sets of these batteries do the average user go through in a years time? From what I read, they die frequently.

 

[mlinky]

But how many sets of these batteries do the average user go through in a years time? From what I read, they die frequently.

Long enough to make it a worthwhile first pv (and much cheaper than a carton of smokes). I have had my kit for over a month. It came with 2 batteries, and I have experienced no reduction in battery life/increase in charging time yet. It was easy to deal with, got me off cigarettes, and gave me time to figure out what is important to me in a pv and what juices I like. That said, I am going to order a REO because I figured out that having a pv be as convenient as smoking is my number one priority, so I need a bottom fed mod. Some people find they love to drip, or are in need of more power, they would probably opt for a different mod. I will keep my eGo as back-up and to sample new juice, and as something to hand to people who want to know what this whole e-cig thing is about. Best money I ever spent.

 

[uba egar320]

I hear ya. You won't be disappointed in a bottom feeder. Once you hit a mod that has an 18650 battery in it, there is no going back lol.

 

[mlinky]

I hear ya. You won't be disappointed in a bottom feeder. Once you hit a mod that has an 18650 battery in it, there is no going back lol.

Yeah, I can't wait!!

 

[uba egar320]

A quick word of advice on them though. Imo, of course, get an LR atty that is light in color. The reason I say this, is that it's much easier to see the hole on the side of your atty. You'll be looking at this little hole a bunch while you are priming your atty. It's also much easier to see if you over did it, and have juice running down the side of your atty. Good luck!

 

[mlinky]

A quick word of advice on them though. Imo, of course, get an LR atty that is light in color. The reason I say this, is that it's much easier to see the hole on the side of your atty. You'll be looking at this little hole a bunch while you are priming your atty. It's also much easier to see if you over did it, and have juice running down the side of your atty. Good luck!

Thanks for the advice...I need all of it I can get. I haven't had a huge amount of experience with attys since I've been using 2ohm cartos for about 3 weeks. I was thinking about starting with the ones Rob now has available (new EM 510LR).

 

[uba egar320]

I'm sure they will be fine. Just don't fret if you get an atty that leaks. For some damn reason, I run into this every so often. As a matter of fact, the atty's I use Puresmoker 901 lr's leak if I don't get the stainless ones. Why>?I have no freakin clue lol. The black ones are the ones I used to get, and they work great. Just for reasons unknown, they leak like a paper bag on my Kaji JM.