Do Some People Have To Quit Vaping?

[Trayce]

Does vaping give some people bronchitis no matter what formula they use? For some reason it seems to bother my lungs more than smoke. Not while I am vaping (I never cough while vaping), it's afterwards that my lungs take a huge downturn. If I stop vaping a couple days they get better... so I vape again and they get worse again. Before I started vaping I had no issues with coughing or bronchitis, but now it seems like I cannot vape without triggering it. Tried VG only. Maybe I just have to wait a few months until the bronchitis is completely gone then start over. Anyone else have this problem? (PS I am only an occasional smoker, so it's not that my lungs are cleaning out... it's that they are becoming irritated by the vapor for some reason! Even when I vape 0 nic and nothing but VG diluted with distilled water, which was one of the formulas I tested.)

 

[Talyon]

I've had bronchitis a few times in my life so I know the feeling, however I don't get any bad effects from Vapeing, if I were u I'd see a doctor and be sure to be healed of bronchitis in the first place. Also drink lots of water really. I'm sure the odds would have it that some can't Vape because of who knows why just like anything in life. Hope u figure it out.

 

[Renolizzie]

Maybe if you are only an occaional smoker and you have bronchitis issues you could skip smoking and vaping? Just a thought for you.

 

[chalton36]

Your asking a question you have already answered in the same post ??? I don't eat nails because it would hurt me and I know that also I don't eat grapes because they make me sick but they don't make millions of others sick

 

[didureboot]

I would definitely see a doctor. You may have something else. Ive never had any issues like that. But if I were, I'd be going to the doctor and getting checked out.

 

[eratikmind]

As mentioned, I suggest seeing a physician prior to any more smoking and vaping.

Andy

 

[Trayce]

I don't see how it could actually be bronchitis but that was the quickest way to characterize it. Bronchitis doesn't go away in a few days. Even acute bronchitis (the short one caused by a virus) lasts 2-3 weeks. Chronic bronchitis (caused by smoke or irritants, not a virus) lasts a few months. So it isn't actually that, it's more like the vapor just irritates my lungs. Or maybe something in the cartos. Maybe I'll try sticking with a clearo and see if there's a difference.

As to stopping, I'd like to find a way past this so that on those occasions when I'd buy a smoke to enjoy, I'll pick up my 808 instead. Healthier, right (or so it seems)? Even occasionally.

 

[Trayce]

Your asking a question you have already answered in the same post ??? I don't eat nails because it would hurt me and I know that also I don't eat grapes because they make me sick but they don't make millions of others sick

I am asking the people on this board if they have come across people who just can't vape for whatever reasons. If they have heard of this problem. I don't know of many people who can't eat grapes, and in all the reading I have done on ECF I have not personally read of too many people who can't vape, but then I haven't read it as much as those of you who are long time vapers. So I am just asking.

 

[eratikmind]

I am asking the people on this board if they have come across people who just can't vape for whatever reasons. If they have heard of this problem. I don't know of many people who can't eat grapes, and in all the reading I have done on ECF I have not personally read of too many people who can't vape, but then I haven't read it as much as those of you who are long time vapers. So I am just asking.

No worries, Trayce . . . That's what we are here for . . . Ask away.



Andy

 

[jazon1]

Does vaping give some people bronchitis no matter what formula they use? For some reason it seems to bother my lungs more than smoke. Not while I am vaping (I never cough while vaping), it's afterwards that my lungs take a huge downturn. If I stop vaping a couple days they get better... so I vape again and they get worse again. Before I started vaping I had no issues with coughing or bronchitis, but now it seems like I cannot vape without triggering it. Tried PG only and VG only. Maybe I just have to wait a few months until the bronchitis is completely gone then start over. Anyone else have this problem? (PS I am only an occasional smoker, so it's not that my lungs are cleaning out... it's that they are becoming irritated by the vapor for some reason! Even when I vape 0 nic and nothing but VG diluted with distilled water, which was one of the formulas I tested.)

keep in mind that this is also allergy season and one of the worst in history from what i have read.
i have never been effected by allergy's at all, but this year they are kicking my ....,i have been hacking up fluid,runny nose etc
try to take a benadryl and give it a few hours and see if it goes away,ive never had any issues with vaping but with my lungs already irritated from the spring allergy's this year ive been getting a little irritation from it.
so give the benadryl a try you got nothing to loose

 

[Trayce]

Thanks Andy, I appreciate that.

@jazon1 I never had allergies before but that was a creative suggestion.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Yes, I know two people that can't vape more than a dozen or so inhales per day without problems, one has emphysema the other has cystic fibrosis.
The first person I knew that used an ecig (a friend of mine ) couldn't vape when he was coming down with pneumonia, he never vaped or smoked again after getting well.

Not trying to scare you, but if you have an idea of what is causing it stop doing it and go see a doctor, better safe than sorry.

 

[jazon1]

Thanks Andy, I appreciate that.

@jazon1 I never had allergies before but that was a creative suggestion.

im 40 years old and have never had an allergy to anything in my life and have lived in all parts of the country
they are saying that allergy's this year are exceptionally bad the pollen count from trees this year are the highest in history in most states,so even if you have not been effected in the past its very possible you are this year,it will be about another month until it passes.

 

[hvac999]

Back in 2010 I stopped vaping because I thought that was the cause of my bronchitis. I started vaping again in 2011 and the same thing happened. Come to find out it was just coincidence. My doctor said it was because of my smoking. Now I have now been vaping for months and feel like a million bucks. I smoked analogs for 35 years.

 

[wormbutt]

Bodies change. Not saying it IS allergies. Just saying that even though you have never had allergies, it doesn't mean you won't develop them. That was a brilliant suggestion by jazon1.

Maybe you are allergic to what your vaping. Have you tried different flavors to see if one is less irritating than the other?

 

[Trayce]

Back in 2010 I stopped vaping because I thought that was the cause of my bronchitis. I started vaping again in 2011 and the same thing happened. Come to find out it was just coincidence. My doctor said it was because of my smoking. Now I have now been vaping for months and feel like a million bucks. I smoked analogs for 35 years.

Thanks for this. It was encouraging.

And thanks to everyone else. I appreciate everyone's concern and the practical advice to see a doctor but I don't have insurance and would not go to a doctor unless something was broken or I had some other emergency. Haven't been to a doctor since I was a kid, except when I was forced to get health ins a few years back (it's only for catastrophic hosp care) and according to the checkup I was in excellent health, which I have been fortunate enough to enjoy all my life.

I think maybe the problem was that because I am not a heavy smoker, but vaping was so fun, I vaped my .... off a couple of nights just sitting here working on my computer, and that was probably too much, which triggered this irritation or quasi-bronchitis deal that I now have to let pass.

It is also encouraging that minus serious health problems, people don't generally have a problem vaping. That gives me hope this will pass. To Topwater, I sincerely hope your friends are doing well these days...

 

[Trayce]

Bodies change. Not saying it IS allergies. Just saying that even though you have never had allergies, it doesn't mean you won't develop them. That was a brilliant suggestion by jazon1.

Maybe you are allergic to what your vaping. Have you tried different flavors to see if one is less irritating than the other?

Yes, that was a really good suggestion by jazon1 and I was certainly not being facetious when I said it was creative. I meant he was thinking outside the box... IOW I agree with you. It was brilliant. And you're right, bodies can change.

As to being allergic to the flavors, that's why I pared it down to just VG and DW... no flavor or nic, just to see. I don't have pure PG yet... it's hard to buy in small quantities and I believe it bothers me more than VG based on what I have vaped so far (RY4 and Menthol disposable in the beginning were both PG based and bothered me more than the VG.... only 100% VG was way too oily for me, so that's why I started diluting it.) But I was thinking it might also be the polyfill in the cartos. So you could be right, and I will keep looking into that. Like try using the clearos next time for a day or two (I prefer cartos though), then maybe replace the polyfill in the cartos with organic cotton or something.

 

[PLANofMAN]

My cousin thought she couldn't vape because every time she took a puff, it would trigger a bout of coughing. I know other people have had similar issues, and one of the ways to get past them was to just "tough it out" while the body gets used to vaping. In my cousin's case, it was smoke or vape, no in-between. Turns out that she couldn't handle top fed atomizers. Once she moved away from the Genisis attys and Vivi Nova's and switched to bottom fed atty's like the Kanger M3 and MT3, she had no more problems. I wonder if your issue is similar.

 

[wormbutt]

That's an awesome idea. Hopefully someday someone will come out with an organic fill!!

The following is not meant to scare, just for informational purposes and kind of interesting...

I read somewhere a few months back that vaping is a little harder on the lungs due to the way a person vapes. Wish I could find the article somewhere for you. It said something like vaping mimics the same movements as {edit} and causes sort of a neg pressure which makes people more prone to spontaneous pneumothorax and lung collapse. It is due to the puffing and inhale that is different than smoking a cig.

Dunno if it is true though so take it with a grain of salt.

If I can find it again I'll link it.

 

[PLANofMAN]

That's an awesome idea. Hopefully someday someone will come out with an organic fill!!

The following is not meant to scare, just for informational purposes and kind of interesting...

I read somewhere a few months back that vaping is a little harder on the lungs due to the way a person vapes. Wish I could find the article somewhere for you. It said something like vaping mimics the same movements as {edit} and causes sort of a neg pressure which makes people more prone to spontaneous pneumothorax and lung collapse. It is due to the puffing and inhale that is different than smoking a cig.

Dunno if it is true though so take it with a grain of salt.

If I can find it again I'll link it.

I've never heard anything like that, but I'd be interested in reading more about it. {edit}

The proper way to vape is to slowly take a drag, hold the vapor in the mouth (do not inhale) and exhale through the nose or the mouth. You can inhale the vape, but it won't do anything for you. The primary absorption of nicotine when vaping is through the mucus membranes and not the lungs. The droplets of vape are too big to be absorbed by the tissues in the lungs, and you will either exhale it out or cough it up later.

Personally, I inhale into the lungs on every third or fourth drag on a personal vaporizer/e-cig.