Do you fiddle with your thingy?

[chadsmo]

OCD, is this one of your tanks , sure looks that way

http://youtu.be/O6GrXfetm_Y

 

[OCD]

We supply a lot of folks with glass BTW China called, they finally got their stores open and need a resupply

 

[eratikmind]

We supply a lot of folks with glass BTW China called, they finally got their stores open and need a resupply

Right on! Good to read that you folks are being kept on your toes.

By the way, I have resolved my gap issue using a Diver and an OCD tank when using a provari.

- Andy . . . Don't let the Ciggieman getcha . . . vape'em.

 

[roundrock]

I have some basic questions and would really appreciate help. I have 7 OCD tanks and I adore them. Thing(y) is, I really don't understand a lot about the the seals. After a few months of constant use, When replacing juice, the caps separate. Generally this happens because I lost my grip on the bottom and top while pushing out the carto. Of course, I push top or bottom back cap on.

Do the caps achieve the proper seal necessary for the tanks to operate as new?

If not, how do I ensure that they regain the proper seal?

I have a boatload of inner seals, but frankly, I don't understand when I would need to use them.

As always, thanks in advance for any feedback.

EDIT: I am using the IBTanked carto tool.

 

[OCD]

Roundrock, the caps will always try to come out of the glass if not held in place since they are basically just sitting in there. It is simply technique that keeps them in place when pushing the cartomizer down to fill or back up after filling. Just remember whichever end you are pushing from you dont have to worry about that cap, its the one on the far end that will want to come out so hold it rather than the tank tube and dont worry at all about that cap that is now trying to go in more because it wont go anywhere.

If a cap does come out then pushing it back in will re seal it. I have never had any oring go bad on me but then I dont use very caustic liquids. Some folks have mentioned swelling with certain flavors and I dont know but maybe silicone orings could help with that. We do have our colored orings for the 19mm tanks that are silicone.

If you are not having any problems with the tank I would not worry about changing orings. If you notice flooding issues it can be an indication there is an air leak but it could just be a bad carto too so unless it is something plaguing you again I would not worry over it.

ETA*** Andy, that looks sweet. I want to do the dressing rings for the Provari, eGo and Flat Tops in our anodized colors but The Mrs has me in a holding Pattern. On the bright side we got in the 19s in anodized and the other four colors for a total of ten in the IBTipsys and 22s. All of this should be up on the site in the next few days.

 

[roundrock]

From OCD:<snip>
If a cap does come out then pushing it back in will re seal it. I have never had any oring go bad on me but then I dont use very caustic liquids. Some folks have mentioned swelling with certain flavors and I dont know but maybe silicone orings could help with that. We do have our colored orings for the 19mm tanks that are silicone.

If you are not having any problems with the tank I would not worry about changing orings. If you notice flooding issues it can be an indication there is an air leak but it could just be a bad carto too so unless it is something plaguing you again I would not worry over it.

Me: So if I do feel there is an air leak, I replace the outer o-ring? Do I purchase them from you? The (multiple!) o-rings you include are small... This is a definite newbie moment.

OCD: ETA*** <snip> On the bright side we got in the 19s in anodized and the other four colors for a total of ten in the IBTipsys and 22s. All of this should be up on the site in the next few days

Me: Oh boy, see you soon!

 

[OCD]

Aaaaahhhh, look closely at the orings you received. There should be one pair a little larger than the other in each set of extras that you got. When we send out new tanks (well the caps actually) they always go with a complete change of orings which is two inner and two outer.

 

[nevrdowhatheydo]

Just showin' off my EPipeMods, each rockin' a 22mmXL and 19mmXL, respectively.

 

[OCD]

Those are pretty sharp. I think I would like a pipe.

 

[Tjloa]

Ocd bro any word on the anodized 19's?

 

[OCD]

TJ, we have them My brother is off his foot for a month or two so he hasnt been coming down to help in the shop. Had to get a skin graft for a couple sores that were not healing, since he only has one he is kind of hard on it. Anyhow been sending all of the caps to him so he can oring them at home while he is laid up. I will be getting them up on the site as soon as I can catch a breath... unbelievable how it is still growing here. I said it before and the same is holding true that every time I build new equipment to start getting ahead our volume just comes up to keep me running.

When I get time I want to talk to you about Vegas, keep those days open for us because we have plans for you Looking forward to these fall events coming up but then we also know they are a ton of work to get ready for and mess us up with the days off but they are a lot of fun and we plan to squeeze in some non work fun while we are there too.

 

[LARams]

Let me clarify. I've owned these tanks for 6 months. In the beginning I did not use a tool and shredded the orings over time. I bought a couple replacements. They fit perfectly and you could visually see they were a match for the originals. After a few more months of use even with a tool the inner orings had to be replaced again. This time I ordered a whole bunch of replacement orings from Ibtanked. When they arrived I compared them to the originals and could see right away they had a larger diameter and had slightly thicker rubber. At first I thought that they were the outer oring size but after comparing them they were not. So I tried anyway to use these new orings but they simply do not fit. I'm not some dummy. I know how to put these orings in and have done so many times with the originals with no problems.

I cracked the one tank while trying to slide the caps into the glass. The fit is so tight on my steel caps that I have to use tremendous force sometimes to get them in and they still try and pop back out. This problem only occurs on my steel caps. My wife has a set of acrylics that slide right in with no hassle.

From my point of view it is a flawed design when you have to push so hard your hands hurt afterwards. The tolerances on these steel caps must vary. Some people say that theirs work great. Easy to fill. No O-ring tearing. That's not my experience at all with the steel caps I own.

I bought and paid for these. I have a right to complain when they don't function properly or replacement parts don't fit. I really resent the owner of the company coming on here with the backing of his IBtank fans and making me feel like it's all my fault because I'm dumb or something. Your extremely arrogant to think there is no chance you made a mistake and sent me the wrong O-rings. I would never act like that towards a customer of mine. I would absolutely consider what the customer was telling me might be true.

I'll post pictures later of the new O-ring and the ones that actually fit so you can see for yourself. Then you can't blame me for not knowing how to insert them anymore.

 

[LARams]

Here is a picture.

 

[OCD]

Sorry you felt that way LARams but I never tried to paint a picture in any way of what I thought the situation was. I tried to offer suggestions as to what the problem was. I always try and keep thing to the simplest denominator because you never know what someone might have tried.

I believe I also noted previously that yes there is is a chance that you were sent the wrong orings, if I did not note that then I apologize because perfect is about as far from the way we feel about ourselves as anything. We do try very hard to make a good product at a fair price but sometimes things do happen.

On the tolerance shift, it is more likely to be in the glass or even the orings than in the caps. We have been using the same shop since the beginning of this year and so far they have been stellar with their QC. I do know that we had some glass run small on us and when The Mrs pointed it out I started mic'ing all of the 19mm tubes before cutting them and rejecting anything that does run towards the small side. You cant compare these to the Acrylic caps as the acrylics are/were made by hand one at a time so they did have greater swings in tolerance and they also used a different outer oring on them.

I think I also already said we can resolve this with some communication. If you have sent a message through the site contact form and if the girls did not address it then the message is likely tagged for me. I am a few days behind on my support but I will get to it soon.

Again, my apologies if you read any of my posts to be demeaning as it was not my intent. I would like nothing more than to see you have useable gear which is what I am sure you wanted when you purchased it in the first place.

 

[OCD]

You posted the picture while I was composing the post above. Thanks BTW as I think I see what the difference is now.

We were using a 9.5 x 1.5 oring on the inside of the caps but switched to 10.1 x 1.6 because some folks were finding the original ones too loose. My guess there is that there is a small variation in cartomizers where the smaller one would let the tank be a little slidy. We have had much less issue since switching to the slightly larger and thicker ones. If you would like the 9.5 x 1.5 we can certainly send you some of those. We have also in the past used a #012 when folks wanted an even more snug fit but many found these to be too tight.

 

[LARams]

You posted the picture while I was composing the post above. Thanks BTW as I think I see what the difference is now.

We were using a 9.5 x 1.5 oring on the inside of the caps but switched to 10.1 x 1.6 because some folks were finding the original ones too loose. My guess there is that there is a small variation in cartomizers where the smaller one would let the tank be a little slidy. We have had much less issue since switching to the slightly larger and thicker ones. If you would like the 9.5 x 1.5 we can certainly send you some of those. We have also in the past used a #012 when folks wanted an even more snug fit but many found these to be too tight.

And amazingly enough I'd say there is around .6mm worth of O-ring not able to fit into the slot that was made to fit a 9.5mm O-ring.

I've wasted way to much time trying to prove a 2 cent O-ring doesn't fit.

I'm sure your a nice person but I'm done with this aggravation.

 

[OCD]

You shouldnt be aggravated about this. I do have to say that the 10.1 x 1.6mm oring does fit into that groove even if it doesnt seem like it should. We put thousands of them in and most folks figure out how to tuck them in. The smaller one on the left gave some folks problems in being too loose and the only way to tighten them up was to go with a little extra material.

Once we started using the middle one from your picture above it seemed everyones problems (too loose on the cartomizer) went away. We have had a few folks who had trouble getting these into the groove, if you look back just a little you will see a reply I made to Skoot explaining how I put them in. If somehow your caps are small on the ID groove I would be happy to replace them but this just isnt something we have seen. As stated also I am happy to send you the 9.5mm orings if thats what works for you, I would hope you understand that the reason you were sent the orings you have is because thats what we use in all of our metal caps now.

One thing that keeps nagging me is the off chance that there could be a sliver in the oring groove. We rarely see this any more with our current shop but with our old shop we would sometimes find the last curl of metal in the groove that did not come out when cutting the groove. If that is in the groove then of course some extra room is taken up in there. This is a very off chance and would be doubly so for both caps but who knows?

 

[Tjloa]

I've had problems with my IBtank.

1. the o-rings are a big problem. I ordered replacements for the 19mm steel caps and the o-rings that were sent are to big. I know the difference between the o-rings that go on the outer part and these aren't those size either. I don't know what these O-rings fit that you sent me but they don't fit any part of the 19mm steel caps. I also have acrylic caps and I compared those O-rings to the ones you sent and they don't match those either.

2. while trying like hell to get these to fit. My tank chipped and cracked around the edge.

Kinda unhappy right now with Ibtanked. The design is flawed because it tears the O-rings to shreds even if you use a tapered tool for refilling. I knew this and planned way ahead by ordering replacements but you sent me parts that do not remotely fit. Now I'm stuck with useless tanks and no way to vape.

Having to replace these tanks is going to be expensive and I'm not happy about it.

On #1 Ok understandable a simple email or phone call could fix this.

#2 Simply put you did it to your self more then likely cause of your impatient's! Any grown adult knows if it doesn't fit don't force it well uhhhh because YOU could break it!

#3 Refer to #1

Let me clarify. I've owned these tanks for 6 months. In the beginning I did not use a tool and shredded the orings over time. I bought a couple replacements. They fit perfectly and you could visually see they were a match for the originals. After a few more months of use even with a tool the inner orings had to be replaced again. This time I ordered a whole bunch of replacement orings from Ibtanked. When they arrived I compared them to the originals and could see right away they had a larger diameter and had slightly thicker rubber. At first I thought that they were the outer oring size but after comparing them they were not. So I tried anyway to use these new orings but they simply do not fit. I'm not some dummy. I know how to put these orings in and have done so many times with the originals with no problems.

It seems that never in YOUR wildest thoughts even stoped to consider that it could be USER ERROR hmmmmm just one thing I can think of that would damage orings is ummmmm certain juices. And lets just say for arguments sake it wasn't a juice that was damaging your orings well then that only leaves USER ERROR. If you could clearly see the orings you got weren't the same you had and weren't happy again refer to #1 its your own fault if you chose to continue anyway.

I cracked the one tank while trying to slide the caps into the glass. The fit is so tight on my steel caps that I have to use tremendous force sometimes to get them in and they still try and pop back out. This problem only occurs on my steel caps. My wife has a set of acrylics that slide right in with no hassle.

From my point of view it is a flawed design when you have to push so hard your hands hurt afterwards. The tolerances on these steel caps must vary. Some people say that theirs work great. Easy to fill. No O-ring tearing. That's not my experience at all with the steel caps I own.

Yet again you show in your own words that YOU instead try to make something work that clearly wasn't going to. So yet again this becomes your responsibility that it broke no one else's! And you also state that its clearly a flawed design but that wasn't the case for as YOU said 6 months you used the tank. So the possibility is that you could have very well received the wrong size oring replacements. So ill say it again refer to #1 to try and get this fixed like any adult would.

I bought and paid for these. I have a right to complain when they don't function properly or replacement parts don't fit. I really resent the owner of the company coming on here with the backing of his IBtank fans and making me feel like it's all my fault because I'm dumb or something. Your extremely arrogant to think there is no chance you made a mistake and sent me the wrong O-rings. I would never act like that towards a customer of mine. I would absolutely consider what the customer was telling me might be true.

I'll post pictures later of the new O-ring and the ones that actually fit so you can see for yourself. Then you can't blame me for not knowing how to insert them anymore.

Yes you bought and paid for them and have every right to complain. Which ill say yet again could have been settled easily by referring to #1 instead of coming back here and trying to throw a temper tantrum like a child.

And the reason I am responding to this is because I RESENT your insinuations! And if the shoe fits wear it because the only thing I see now is that it was and is totally your own fault for your current situation!

And amazingly enough I'd say there is around .6mm worth of O-ring not able to fit into the slot that was made to fit a 9.5mm O-ring.

I've wasted way to much time trying to prove a 2 cent O-ring doesn't fit.

I'm sure your a nice person but I'm done with this aggravation.

Good riddance because most here are done with adults that act like children and throw tantrums. Ocd offered an olive tree to help you even though its a 6 month old tank that YOU broke. He wasn't asking anything to make you look or feel like anything because yet again you never stopped to think maybe the questions were asked to make sure he fixed things the right way.

Tata Farwell

 

[LARams]

On #1 Ok understandable a simple email or phone call could fix this.

#2 Simply put you did it to your self more then likely cause of your impatient's! Any grown adult knows if it doesn't fit don't force it well uhhhh because YOU could break it!

#3 Refer to #1



It seems that never in YOUR wildest thoughts even stoped to consider that it could be USER ERROR hmmmmm just one thing I can think of that would damage orings is ummmmm certain juices. And lets just say for arguments sake it wasn't a juice that was damaging your orings well then that only leaves USER ERROR. If you could clearly see the orings you got weren't the same you had and weren't happy again refer to #1 its your own fault if you chose to continue anyway.



Yet again you show in your own words that YOU instead try to make something work that clearly wasn't going to. So yet again this becomes your responsibility that it broke no one else's! And you also state that its clearly a flawed design but that wasn't the case for as YOU said 6 months you used the tank. So the possibility is that you could have very well received the wrong size oring replacements. So ill say it again refer to #1 to try and get this fixed like any adult would.



Yes you bought and paid for them and have every right to complain. Which ill say yet again could have been settled easily by referring to #1 instead of coming back here and trying to throw a temper tantrum like a child.

And the reason I am responding to this is because I RESENT your insinuations! And if the shoe fits wear it because the only thing I see now is that it was and is totally your own fault for your current situation!



Good riddance because most here are done with adults that act like children and throw tantrums. Ocd offered an olive tree to help you even though its a 6 month old tank that YOU broke. He wasn't asking anything to make you look or feel like anything because yet again you never stopped to think maybe the questions were asked to make sure he fixed things the right way.

Tata Farwell

I didn't get childish or personal. I posted my findings and experience with his O-ring fitment. Your perfectly welcome to enjoy these tanks. I didn't just come on this forum out of the blue to complain. I did try ibtanked email contacts first. I started that process a week ago. It takes 1 to 2 days for each response.

I know the tank breaking was my fault. I wouldn't expect them to do anything about that.

I absolutely considered that this was user error and maybe it still is. Maybe they do fit but the picture I posted to back up what I was saying clearly shows they are different sizes. In either case it's my opinion the design needs work if it's that much of a hassle to replace them. If you don't think so your free to think that way but coming on here and blasting a complete stranger because they don't see it your way shows who the real child is in this conversation. And frankly a moderator should ban you or give you a warning for that kind of behavior. Your way out of line for attacking me like that.

 

[b0redagain]

For the sake of this argument I tried replacing the orings on a 25mm and 22mm. Everything came out without hassle and new ones in like butter. I still don't see the issue.

Perhaps it's a one off situation or user error...I don't know.