Do you stock up "just in case"?

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My nicotine supply is increasing with alarming speed.
About six months ago I put 1.5 L of 100 mg nic in my freezer. At that time I vaped 5 ml/day of 12 mg juice. So, I had a 7-years supply of nic in my freezer. Then I switched to 10 mg, 9 mg, and about two weeks ago - to 8 mg nic juice (and the same 5 ml/day). So, my nic in a freezer became 10 years supply. A few days ago I found out that 8 mg is a bit too much for me, so I diluted everything in half and now vaping 4 mg juice. So far it's good. And in just 2 weeks my nicotine stack doubled and reached 20 years mark. I am afraid to think what will come next...
It doesn't work that way for everyone. I've been at 15mg for ~20 months now (down from 18-24 initially). There there are times I'm tempted to mix stronger (but I won't let myself). I've tried mixing weaker and find it quite unsatisfactory.
 

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I recently started dabbling in DIY juices and I am going to stock up myself. Mostly to have it on hand and save the money I would usually spend on juice at my local vape shop. But I live in the US and you never know what our lunatic government will do to the vaping industry once it really starts sinking its teeth into it :nah:
 
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Seems... aaaaa..... Don't check the freezer much.
I cut some 100mg. down to 37+- a few mg. into 30ml. jugs + a few ml. (PG only)
Many mini jugs from a 500 ml. bottle. While leaving a couple jugs of uncut 100mg 30ml jugs.
When I'm down to only 100mg. jugs, I'll acquire some more.
(Nicotine hard to get?! Gone is the fret of government control, FDA has no say, and the EPA has their panties in a wad over everything else.)
 

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i dont have anything stocked up i don't think they will ever ban smoking in the US. just look what happened when they banned alcohol, not a pretty site. in other countries though if i recall it is more prone and not weird i mean if they were to ban it in the US i too would stock up. i do try to buy in bulk i live in Hawaii juice prices are pretty pricey and hard to find a lot of juice brands here most are DIY stuff from locals and the flavors are almost always the same.
 

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i dont have anything stocked up i don't think they will ever ban smoking in the US. just look what happened when they banned alcohol, not a pretty site. in other countries though if i recall it is more prone and not weird i mean if they were to ban it in the US i too would stock up. i do try to buy in bulk i live in Hawaii juice prices are pretty pricey and hard to find a lot of juice brands here most are DIY stuff from locals and the flavors are almost always the same.
Vaping in Hawaii would be nice. My wife and I honeymooned in Ka'anapali 8 years ago. It was beautiful!
 
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    I keep just a few months worth of stock. I fear I wouldn't care as much as the newer desperate person if I stocked up for years. I see many newcomers in here every week and our lives are in the hands of some terribly greedy people. I want to fight With them on equal ground against our foes.

    I aim better and fight harder and smarter when I'm low on ammo.
     

    jacob bonilla

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    Vaping in Hawaii would be nice. My wife and I honeymooned in Ka'anapali 8 years ago. It was beautiful!
    lol yes it is nice if you can vape. most places here it is illegal to vape or hard too because so many people that don't smoke around you. i mostly vape in my house or car just tired of people giving me crap about smoking in what is a no smoking area. i live on Oahu i dont think the other islands have much of a problem they dont seem as populated
     

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    lol yes it is nice if you can vape. most places here it is illegal to vape or hard too because so many people that don't smoke around you. i mostly vape in my house or car just tired of people giving me crap about smoking in what is a no smoking area. i live on Oahu i dont think the other islands have much of a problem they dont seem as populated
    Those people that judge us would probably die if we knew some of the things they probably do behind closed doors! lol
     

    Canadian_Vaper

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    No reason to stock up on VG/PG, it's widely available, from farm supply stores to pharmacies it'll always be there, Food flavoring isn't going anywhere either, 18650's are used for tonnes of things other than vaping like my flashlights, I bought a dozen VTC4's for them even before I started vaping (5 have died over the years though).

    as for nicotine I will will order a couple liters if I hear about a ban on it but really it will still be available somehow I'm sure.

    I do have about 600ml of juice mixed right now though if that's considered stocking up.
     

    XeniaVaper

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    my take on the vapeocalypse, should the antz get their way...
    1. As readily posted batteries and write will never be banned, we can DIY our own mod if it comes down to it, even the chipset that controls vw mods will still be obtainable, and probably cheaper since we will be forced to buy them from electronics distributors rather than gouging vape dealers. No worries here, might as well save your money.
    2 Liquid is a little more complicated. PG, VG and food grade flavorings will also never be banned or considered tobacco products, so we are in the clear for no Nic juice, save your money on these products as well.
    domestic nicotine is likely to become unavailable in high concentrations, to the average consumer, although it is not necessarily going to be impossible, just very difficult, and probably highly taxed. We should stock up, and I plan to begin doing so ASAP 2 liters of 250 should last several years till Thomas even out.
    We have ways around that, though. We could grow and extract or own Nic. Research is needed in this front to develop a safe, reliable, and clean method for doing so. Though I have an idea of how to obtain a substantially clan nicotine extract. More importantly, we will be able to import it. Pharmaceutical nicotine is not a controlled substance, and the FDA does not have authority to ban a substance. They are a regulatory, not legislative body. They merely van the production and sale of it, but that doesn't apply to, say China. Customs does not work for the FDA, and people have for years been importing non FDA approved items. That will not change. It will not be illegal to possess nicotine, so you will be able to import it. Even if they did block the import, foreign vendors are already in the habit of mislabeling such items as not being nicotine, so again moot point.
    still wouldn't hurt to stock up now.
    3. Atomizers are likely to become more controlled, however RBA atomizers will be very hard of not impossible for them to keep away, they could be marketed under false pretenses, our sold in pieces. These would not be impossible to obtain. The import idea above would also person to these.
    however,I am quite interested in finding a way to build my own RDA, any ideas with this?
    It wouldn't be a bad idea to stock up on atomizers, it will surely be tricky at minimum to get the high quality gear we want.
    buy nicotine, if anything.
     
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    OP, I think you're smart stocking up "just in case". Living in Europe you know what is likely coming unless the challenge is successful. Here in the US the final Deeming Order is now sitting at the OBM awaiting their approval so we will likely know sometime within the next 3 months what our future holds even though I'm sure there will court challenges to delay things. IMO if one is stocking up Nicotine is most important. Many things like batteries, PG, VG, flavorings, wire, cotton will always be available no matter what happens. RTA's, RDA's, coils, mods will certainly be available BUT over time I suspect available much differently and not nearly as easily then in the variety of ways we can purchase the vast array of our vaping toys today at the prices we pay today. And don't forget the panic buying that will occur as the time gets closer in Europe if the challenge isn't successful as would also happen in the US depending on what the final Deeming Order says.

    If you are going to decide to stock up on things beyond nicotine be sure you consider the simple questions of " Is this durable enough to still be working after 2 years or 3 years, or more years ? " and "Am I really likely to be happy using it for several years? " A stash of things you don't end of wanting to use is simply wasting money.

    I admittedly have a fairly large vaping stash that I've collected over the past 5+ years ;) Much of it was collected in the first 3 years that I vaped with of coarse a few new toys added each year :D When I see the FDA's final Deeming order I'll decide if I think I need to add anything else to my collection but for the most part I'm prepared.
     

    ChildWithATemper

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    And don't forget the panic buying that will occur as the time gets closer in Europe

    This is the reason I'm stocking up now. For example: we are 5-6 vapers at work. I am the only one with the knowledge of what's about to happen - the rest just look at me at go "nah, not gonna happen, and if it will, I'll just buy more stuff at that time".

    I've never gotten thus far as to rebuildables and do not have the time for it either - the closest thing to that is me sometimes rewicking the iSub coils. I've found the tanks that are capable of keeping me off analogs and this is why I just buy them/the parts in bulk. I'd hate to pay double the price for them when people realise, what's about to happen.

    I have grown fond of mods with built-in batteries, but is it a better idea to get some with external/18650?
     

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    The nicotine base and a tank or two should be all you need to stock up with. PG, VG, and concentrated flavorings are used for other purposes as well as vaping and should remain available.

    Some vendors like Aspire have all the 'repair parts' available, so you can build a tank from them. I think other manufacturers will also do this so that they can keep the European market, and sell their latest offerings there. Look for tanks that meet EU standards, with an available higher capacity upgrade from manufacturers in 2016.
     

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    This subject has been extensively discussed ever since the first serious restrictive legislation began earlier this year.
    As mentioned nicotine is the main vaping element that will quite possibly cease to be available in bulk. Wire, cotton, batteries, VG and PG will (hopefully) be unaffected. ... E-liquid will also probably still be available from over-seas sources, but I'm highly reluctant to inhale something that I'm not 100% sure was produced under proper laboratory conditions.

    Here is a link to the TW site dedicated to informing about and fighting Article 20 of the TPD. Their challenge has been heard, but so far thats it. Article 20 comes into effect in the first quarter of 2016.
    http://article20legalchallenge.com/

    The main points worth noting are:
    2ml tank capacity limit
    ...Toxicological testing of fluids and emissions for every product (every flavor, every strength) will present a disproportionate burden to suppliers that have the widest and most innovative e-liquid ranges. There is no precedent for this type of testing, and very little toxicological data available for flavorings “by inhalation”, so the costs are likely to be in excess of £10K per flavor and strength.

    Look for tanks that meet the 2ml European standards with higher capacity 'upgrade parts' available from manufacturers in 2016. :sneaky:
    Look for concentrated 'not for vaping' :sneaky: flavourings the same as our favorite vapes to be available soon. I think baking and confectionery will be huge hobbies amoung those who vape in the EU starting in 2016. :D:thumb:
     
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