Do You Think God Will Allow This?
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The original statement would have to assume:
A) Everyone believes in God
B) That any act taken to prolong your life is "Evil" or against said God, and
C) That it is quite possible that the teaching "God works through us" may apply to these scientists
Simply stated, I've heard ad nauseaum, "God helps those who helps themselves".... but how can we with the type of logic that we cannot do things ourselves that seem "miracles".
Now, that said, I personally do not believe in God, however, I do believe in a higher natural order. Taking in food and water prolongs our lives, taking vitamins prolongs our lives, as does taking medications for illness and so on. None of these are "evil" and yet, without doubt, these do precisely what the scientists are trying to do..... better and lengthen our lives. To blanket a cause when it wicks into the same area's as jogging or injecting insulin to restore health and vitality (i.e. longer life), is dueling with the ghost.
As long as we are not "cloning", or stealing from others to gain our health and long life, I see absolutely no wicked in it. This is not a slander against good God Fearing people, as I am a multi-denominational minister and fully respect all faiths, but we should remember not all think out of the same tank, as it were.
A) Everyone believes in God
B) That any act taken to prolong your life is "Evil" or against said God, and
C) That it is quite possible that the teaching "God works through us" may apply to these scientists
Simply stated, I've heard ad nauseaum, "God helps those who helps themselves".... but how can we with the type of logic that we cannot do things ourselves that seem "miracles".
Now, that said, I personally do not believe in God, however, I do believe in a higher natural order. Taking in food and water prolongs our lives, taking vitamins prolongs our lives, as does taking medications for illness and so on. None of these are "evil" and yet, without doubt, these do precisely what the scientists are trying to do..... better and lengthen our lives. To blanket a cause when it wicks into the same area's as jogging or injecting insulin to restore health and vitality (i.e. longer life), is dueling with the ghost.
As long as we are not "cloning", or stealing from others to gain our health and long life, I see absolutely no wicked in it. This is not a slander against good God Fearing people, as I am a multi-denominational minister and fully respect all faiths, but we should remember not all think out of the same tank, as it were.
Yes it is. Once you start messing with dna, cloning, hybrids and other things like that, it's crossing the line and trying to play God. I don't think He would like that.
This technology might look like a great thing to start with, but could turn into something evil very quickly. It's not our place to mess with DNA and attempt to live forever. When Adam and Eve sinned, God started the aging process, and He told them You Will Surely Die. Man is now attempting to find a way around that. I smell satan.
smoking alters our DNA causing normal cells to become malignant.....so were we all guilty of "playing God" since we all willingly smoked?
if science were truly evil, the only way to lead a nonevil life would be to abandon civilization, live in the woods, and graze on fruit and dead animals. No fresh meat unless you could catch it with your bare hands, because tools are dangerously close to science.
i don't recall any passages stating that science and progress are evil. I suppose the argument could be that they are a creation of man, and that man is inherently evil, but then would not everything man has ever created be evil? If that is the case, then the Bible is evil, because it is a creation by man. If that argument is too much of a stress, gutenberg's printing press must be evil (even though it allowed the Bible to be printed and distributed to millions).
One cannot say whether God will or will not be pleased with man's actions, unless his actions are in direct violation of God's word. If God is a fair, just God, reasoning stands that he surely would not argue with the discovery of penicillin, which has saved millions. So then, genetic engineering, which has the ability to save millions as well, cannot also be considered evil, unless used explicitly for evil purposes.
The sin is in the intent behind the action, not the action. Saving a child from certain death surely would not be a sin, unless done for strictly selfish reasons.
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Nobody said science as a whole is evil. Cloning, and altering your DNA so that you can live forever...........smells wrong to me, and I believe it's evil.
But nowhere in the article you posted did it say people will live forever...it said prolong the quality of life...don't we try to do that every day?
but man is evil, which is why we get baptized and repent of our sins, correct?
And is science not man-made?
in the old testament (which I know you pick and choose your beliefs from), people lived to be hundreds of years old....explain why extending our current lives a few years is such a sin, if the original man lives 10x as long as we currently do.
"Harvard scientists were surprised that they saw a dramatic reversal, not just a slowing down, of the ageing in mice."
They are trying to reverse the aging process, to stop it completely. That would mean that one could live forever. I've been following this for a while. They are trying to figure out why we age, trying to single out that part of our DNA so that they can alter it. They believe if they can find that gene that is responsible for aging, and alter it, we can live forever.
I never thought they would be able to do it, so I dismissed it, until now when I read that article I see they are getting close to figuring it out, or they might have completely figured it out already. They dont tell us everything.
But attempting to live forever is trying to alter God's will, I think this is dangerous territory. Gods will is for us to live for a time, then die and be judged. I see this as satans way of trying to avoid that, and lying to people to deceive them, once again, that God is a liar and they can live forever. Same lie, different day.
So SG.... where did Eve go wrong in the Garden of Eden? Do ya think Satan was as persuasive with his argument?
I think it's 'safe' enough to assume (based on History and any Man or Woman without God's basic human nature) this 'good' thing of extending longevity will be used (in some part or in some way... we don't know how, why or the wherefores) for Evil... 'that's' what we're speculating. God says Man is basically evil, so we're not wrong in assuming that.. and you should be wise enough to realize that. You're getting too thin skinned over these things....
BTW: For the record: The Internet 'is' inherently EVIL... only a handful of us use it for 'good' and God's glory... same for TV. There's tons of wise Christian groups that still won't mess with either and they're wise...
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So, if this is ok, then I guess it's ok to create a half man half dog too???? Like the aliens hybrids are doing, and the scientists on plum island? Remember the Nephilim hybrids??
No way........stepping on God's territory, and that's what satan does best.
No way........stepping on God's territory, and that's what satan does best.
Look.......satan is no dummy. I don't like to give him credit for anything cause I hate him, but its true that he's not stupid. He makes evil look very appealing, he uses deception and trickery to get to people. He's always used that tactic cause it works so well with humans.
or it could be a case of finding what you are looking for everywhere you look. My wife's mom was convinced my wife was bipolar as a child, and took her to countless doctors before one would agree with her. Years later (after the extremely harsh, life altering drugs that she stopped taking when she was 18), she is diagnosed with PCOS. Had my mother in law listened to others, instead of only seeing what she wanted to see, my wife would have avoided years of suffering.
and to add, if it's God's will for us to die, then we will die. end of story. We have no say in the matter, no matter what we do. We are merely pawns
PS. The sky is falling
Somedays I feel like banging my head against the wall..........or something. Bondeambition3 and Ehuman, do you know what I mean?????????????????????????
I don't know... ask God, He's the one who determines our Life expectancies. In OT times, He 'allowed' us to live longer for His purposes... perhaps He will now... perhaps He won't... this is why we're discussing this.
Science is not Man made.. it's God made. Man just wishes he were half the Scientist God is... (lol) this is one of the biggest reasons it's such a huge point of dissension between Christians & non Christians. I think of it as a two edged sword... it can cut both ways. In God's hands, it's always righteous.. in ours... not so much.
Aren't you doing the same thing in this discussion?
PS - Let the sky fall... This pawn has someplace wonderful to go.....
Yes dear heart, I KNOW exactly what YOU mean.... ♥PS - Let the sky fall... This pawn has someplace wonderful to go.....
Me too!!!!!! I'll be rocketing out of here faster then a bullet, and I won't be wearing a seat belt!!!!!!!!!
you do realize there is a big difference between lab mice, in a controlled environment, an humans, Right? If a scientist could find a way to regenerate your kidneys, instead of being on dialysis, or having a transplant, you wouldn't do it? All modern accepted medical treatments, and medications have been been through this. Where is the cut off point? Is medication ok? some of them alter your body too...surgery? most definitely alters your body...radiation treatments for cancer? alters the DNA of cells....one could say transplants are surgeons acting as god.
When will you say no? If one of your loved ones are dieing slowly, and it could be prevented, what would you do? Where is your cut off point?
I don't believe I'll have to make that decision. I believe Jesus is going to come before that is even an option for regular people like you and me.
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