Do you vape in public?

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I am confused by what you mean "more real information"? There are already a number of studies published that show vaping is harmless for those in the general vicinity.

And those who advocate acting like vaping is the same as smoking, as some in this thread have, what message are they sending to the uninformed?

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NONE of those studies have looked at potential allergens and or irritants which people are already being forced to accept from that woman who just bathed in a bottle of perfume, etc.

Vaping is the same as smoking in several senses, while in others being VERY DIFFERENT.

There is something being spread into the air which may or may not contain nicotine, as well as various other chemicals lumped into "natural and or artificial flavors", which many people have to be careful of already.

Nicotine is mostly proven not to be in the output of an e-cigarette, BUT, how many ordinary people on the streets are going to take that view?

How many smokers are going to take that view, as opposed to the view I see them more likely to have "but I can't smoke here so why can they get their nicotine fix here". I have watched this get ugly in restaurants where they openly allow vaping, I have to imagine that some of those places will be no vaping zones pretty shortly because the greasy wheel tends to get the grease first.

Then there is the twisted underwear brigade who sees smoke like stuff coming out of your mouth/nose and will get all ugly for that reason alone. You can not educate these people once they have allowed their underwear to get twisted, they knee jerk, react, and are lost on logic and sanity from that point on.

I suffer from an allergy to citrus products, not positive exactly which citrus derived chemicals, but I have gotten hell from that perfume bather when I politely excused myself because I knew if I stayed I would be having issues that may not solvable by the paramedics if they are standing right there.

"why are you leaving", "because I have an allergy to something in the perfume I am smelling", "it doesn't bother me, certainly it must be something other than my perfume", etc.
 
I vape everywhere I just don't make a spectacle of myself while doing it. In the grocery store if i want to do it I wait until I am on an isle alone. If I am outside I do it with regards to other people. I do it all day at both my jobs and never get dirty looks(just questions about it). I feel like I am stealth vaping, but I was taught to respect others wishes and space. We had a festival here awhile back and I asked the others around me if it would bother them and and they all said no, by the time I left some of the others around me were asking where I got it and such... JMO

This is an awesome way to approach the situation, that way anyone who knows they have allergies to flavor components can address that issue :)

I would imagine that many who are allergic to tree nuts, or even citrus (like myself) would be able to be around many juices with the components they are allergic to while others would not, and it varies from juice to juice.

Paying attention to others is something we the people (any people, anywhere, in my recent experiences) have forgotten, and probably the kings/queens of ignoring others are my cohorts in the USA.

In the case of the juice my wife had to get rid of, she noticed that I was affected by the juice, even before I had noticed that I started coughing when I was around her afterward or in the presence of that vapor.

PG is also a known potential irritant when breathed, this is why there are regulations regarding fog machines. Always a good idea to remember that and respect the ability of others to breathe without difficulty or distress based on our actions. This is precisely why many of us like high PG juices, the throat hit ;)

I believe like many in this thread that vaping should be allowed, with respect, in places where cigarettes are not allowed, but until that respect can be demonstrated, and the knee jerkers can be satisfied and or eliminated through discussions absent their less sane need to curl up into that immovable ball, it would probably be best for us to be cautious about how and where we vape, especially in low air flow, closed, or crowded areas.
 
I understand that it's a touchy subject. I just don't advocate "poking the bear", so to speak. An all out vaping ban, like most states have with smoking would suck. I envision a day where there will be "vape friendly" establishments. I know there already are, but it's kind of an ask for permission or forgiveness type situation. An all out ban would mean you couldn't even vape in vape shops, many of which have already invested in very nice lounges. Vaping is much more of a hobby than smoking, and it's nice to have places where vapers can get together and share there hobby. Cigars were very similar, and in my state, cigars are banned everywhere that cigarettes are, even cigar shops. I see vaping going the same way.

I'm a libertarian. I don't believe in smoking bans. I think private businesses should be able to allow whatever legal activity they want in their establishment. It would be awesome to be able to vape everywhere, but as more people do it, it just isn't a realistic expectation in today's nanny state. People will become annoyed by it. People will have "allergies" to it, or claim they can't breathe around it. People aren't going to want to sit behind a guy in a restaurant that looks like Thomas the Tank Engine. They will have government impose their will on us. By being relatively respectful about it now, we don't even give those people a chance to really get up in arms about it, and as it catches on businesses will pop up that are vape friendly. We have vape shops around here that are basically a liquor license away from being a place that I would love to hang out in on a weekend night.

Not all of those "allergies" need the quote marks, twice in my life I have had life threatening events due to an allergy to ingredients common in foods, perfumes, and e-juice.

My wife has had to find a new home for one of her favorite flavors because it caused me grief.

The nurse who first yelled at me "drink your orange juice, not like it is gonna kill you or anything" is VERY lucky there were people nearby who knew how to handle anaphylactic shock because that glass of orange juice did indeed do it's best to kill me.

While I know many people who make stories up to avoid something they find merely annoying in some way, I also know many who are truly, and life threateningly bothered by various compounds commonly found in foods, perfumes, e-juice, etc.

I would personally NOT want to be the vaper who sent someone to the hospital, or worse, just because I am allergic to citrus and they are allergic to vanilla. That will probably be the vaper who gets many governments to knee jerk and start beating stuff up with the ban hammer.
 
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Not all of those "allergies" need the quote marks, twice in my life I have had life threatening events due to an allergy to ingredients common in foods, perfumes, and e-juice.

My wife has had to find a new home for one of her favorite flavors because it caused me grief.

The nurse who first yelled at me "drink your orange juice, not like it is gonna kill you or anything" is VERY lucky there were people nearby who knew how to handle anaphylactic shock because that glass of orange juice did indeed do it's best to kill me.

While I know many people who make stories up to avoid something they find merely annoying in some way, I also know many who are truly, and life threateningly bothered by various compounds commonly found in foods, perfumes, e-juice, etc.

I would personally NOT want to be the vaper who sent someone to the hospital, or worse, just because I am allergic to citrus and they are allergic to vanilla. That will probably be the vaper who gets many governments to knee jerk and start beating stuff up with the ban hammer.

After three "allergic" response posts, I can't hold back on this. Do you not take any medication for all the above allergies? I know we are living among the " all about me" millennials but for real? I'm sorry if I'm sounding rude here, but I'm not worried about peoples allergies. That is for "THEM" to take care of. Again, no disrespect intended but dayum, you are sounding like a bubble boy. ;)
 

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After three "allergic" response posts, I can't hold back on this. Do you not take any medication for all the above allergies? I know we are living among the " all about me" millennials but for real? I'm sorry if I'm sounding rude here, but I'm not worried about peoples allergies. That is for "THEM" to take care of. Again, no disrespect intended but dayum, you are sounding like a bubble boy. ;)

That is very rude and disrespectful. I'm sure they do take care of their allergies but what are they supposed to do when someone like you is blowing out vapor they're allergic to. Their throats swell shut and they can't breathe.

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NONE of those studies have looked at potential allergens and or irritants which people are already being forced to accept from that woman who just bathed in a bottle of perfume, etc.

Vaping is the same as smoking in several senses, while in others being VERY DIFFERENT.

There is something being spread into the air which may or may not contain nicotine, as well as various other chemicals lumped into "natural and or artificial flavors", which many people have to be careful of already.

Nicotine is mostly proven not to be in the output of an e-cigarette, BUT, how many ordinary people on the streets are going to take that view?

How many smokers are going to take that view, as opposed to the view I see them more likely to have "but I can't smoke here so why can they get their nicotine fix here". I have watched this get ugly in restaurants where they openly allow vaping, I have to imagine that some of those places will be no vaping zones pretty shortly because the greasy wheel tends to get the grease first.

Then there is the twisted underwear brigade who sees smoke like stuff coming out of your mouth/nose and will get all ugly for that reason alone. You can not educate these people once they have allowed their underwear to get twisted, they knee jerk, react, and are lost on logic and sanity from that point on.

I suffer from an allergy to citrus products, not positive exactly which citrus derived chemicals, but I have gotten hell from that perfume bather when I politely excused myself because I knew if I stayed I would be having issues that may not solvable by the paramedics if they are standing right there.

"why are you leaving", "because I have an allergy to something in the perfume I am smelling", "it doesn't bother me, certainly it must be something other than my perfume", etc.

I can appreciate your situation. It is one of several reasons why many of us state to vape almost anywhere but respectfully and with common sense. It is very easy to vape in a manner that produces a limited vaper level and in a way that does not leave vaper around another persons face.
 

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I was wondering if you had the guts to vape at a restaurant or mall or where ever, or would it just not be worth it because of the dirty looks and assumptions? I'm thinking of taking a few crafty vapes in the movies.:facepalm:

I treat vaping the same as with smoking, go outside and do it in established smoking areas, for me it's a smoking cessation aide.
 
I do. I try to be discrete about it. But I've vaped in nonsmoking places(malls, restaurants, movies, hostpital,etc) when you're in the movies though, try to turn off or cover any lights so no one thinks you're on a cell phone. That'd get you kicked out . In college I vaped in class a few times. I was never flashy about it. I would just hold it in for a little while to let the vapor die down and then slowly blow it straight down to avoid getting attention.
 

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I treat vaping the same as with smoking, go outside and do it in established smoking areas, for me it's a smoking cessation aide.

Then you are telling everyone that vaping and smoking are the same thing and equally as dangerous. Not the perception that we want the uninformed to believe. It is more than possible to vape most places but in a respectful manner and one that reinforces the benign nature of vaping.
 

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That is very rude and disrespectful. I'm sure they do take care of their allergies but what are they supposed to do when someone like you is blowing out vapor they're allergic to. Their throats swell shut and they can't breathe.
So everyone should be restricted from doing anything that might cause an allergic reaction in anyone?
 

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That is very rude and disrespectful. I'm sure they do take care of their allergies but what are they supposed to do when someone like you is blowing out vapor they're allergic to. Their throats swell shut and they can't breathe.

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Look I wasn't trying to be rude. I'm allergic to pine trees and I live in Georgia. Freakin pine trees okay. They are everywhere. When I go fishing I don't expect the property owners to uproot their pine trees "JUST" for me. I take a simple medication,(chlorpheniramine) that relieves the symptoms.
BTW, I wouldn't dream of blowing out vapor in anyones face. If they are that allergic, they should just stay home with their oxygen tank.
 
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