do you want to quit vaping?
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didn't actually know e cigs are tested through animals. do you have any links that I can refer to?
Leave me alone. I will vape until I decide not to...that may be next week or it may be never.
No offense, but what I do with my life is absolutely my responsibility and my choice...none of your or anyone elses damn business.
And, by the way...screw the idea of government deciding what's good for me or anyone else.
No offense, but what I do with my life is absolutely my responsibility and my choice...none of your or anyone elses damn business.
And, by the way...screw the idea of government deciding what's good for me or anyone else.
I'm all about animal testing. Sure it should be humane, but they are a tool to give us insight into how we can better our own lives and that's the most important thing. Am I ok with it? Yes. Do I enjoy vaping? Yes. I don't know if I'll do it forever.. I've only been doing it for 10 months. Forever is a long time.
I am going to let you know how I handle a thread that is asking something I don't believe is anyone's business. Here it is.....I ignore the thread and don't post in it. It really is easy.
Though subscribing to your point, you do realize this is the newbe area Sergeant?
OT: I shall vape till I die or run out of batteries or liquid ... Whichever comes first
Thoroughly against animal testing on higher level animals, based on what has happened to highly intelligent animals like Nim. If you saw the documentary you would understand. What happened to this lovely boy is beyond words.....unspeakable, really.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_Chimpsky
The idea of using surrogates to "suffer for us" just isn't appealing to me from an ethical standpoint.
I'm especially against it for cosmetics.....I hardly think some woman having nice eyelashes is worth an animal being caged in a lab and skin/eye tested for her vanity.
I guess maybe I am courageous.....if I were ill I would enroll in a clinical trial .... not make some other species do that for me.
As for quitting vaping, a question many ponder, dunno why srg rock got so offended. We talk about this all the time, and many members have quit. I really see no problem with putting it out there as a question on a forum. It's been asked before, and never saw any freaked out replies til now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_Chimpsky
The idea of using surrogates to "suffer for us" just isn't appealing to me from an ethical standpoint.
I'm especially against it for cosmetics.....I hardly think some woman having nice eyelashes is worth an animal being caged in a lab and skin/eye tested for her vanity.
I guess maybe I am courageous.....if I were ill I would enroll in a clinical trial .... not make some other species do that for me.
As for quitting vaping, a question many ponder, dunno why srg rock got so offended. We talk about this all the time, and many members have quit. I really see no problem with putting it out there as a question on a forum. It's been asked before, and never saw any freaked out replies til now.
Why would you need to test ecigs on animals? There's millions out there by now Newbe's added every day if you need 'unpoluted' subjects. OK, admittedly they might object to having their lungs removed for close inspection but otherwise I see little use for testing on animals.
Newbe's added every day if you need 'unpoluted' subjects. OK, admittedly they might object to having their lungs removed for close inspection but otherwise I see little use for testing on animals.My point exactly there no point testing something on animals that humans have already been doing for years.
And for the aggressive person who jumped down my throat it was a question I don't care if you don't want to or do want to smoke .
I'm wondering if people actually don't mind having an uncontrollable addiction now that they vale and not smoke.
I've read Allen Carr easy way to stop smoking and I'm just wondering how e digs fit in.
And for the aggressive person who jumped down my throat it was a question I don't care if you don't want to or do want to smoke .
I'm wondering if people actually don't mind having an uncontrollable addiction now that they vale and not smoke.
I've read Allen Carr easy way to stop smoking and I'm just wondering how e digs fit in.
Plus testing something on animals that we already know is bad for us it completey pointless?? So its completely unnecessary.
Sorry its FSA over here in UK but Its the same in america they will be fda approne day and that's the procedure
Sorry its FSA over here in UK but Its the same in america they will be fda approne day and that's the procedure
There's nothing humane about forcing animals to have things which we don't know are safe and they are unwilling participants.
If humans want something its their choice to risk it like with smoking. Were all responsible for our own risks and choices
If humans want something its their choice to risk it like with smoking. Were all responsible for our own risks and choices
Apparently there is nicotine found in 0% but till its better than more for you..
I just want to help people I was a smoker until I read Allen Carr I believe the worst part of smoking is the addiction and how down and powerless it makes you feel.
I am just interested in how it genuinely makes people feel. I still wanted to quit when I vaped, but my mum doesn't.
I was wondering that's all.
I don't want to offend anyone I'm just curious
I just want to help people I was a smoker until I read Allen Carr I believe the worst part of smoking is the addiction and how down and powerless it makes you feel.
I am just interested in how it genuinely makes people feel. I still wanted to quit when I vaped, but my mum doesn't.
I was wondering that's all.
I don't want to offend anyone I'm just curious
Thanks racehorse I never meant any offense I'm just curious and that's all that was asked.
I never even stated my opinion.
I suppose smoker get sick of people trying to force them to quit or force their opinion on them, so I do understand I've been there.
I'm a non smoker or vaper and I hate people who look down their noses at smokers. They discust me not the smokers.
Its ignorance that causes people to bad mouth smokers and they should learn about addiction before they feel the need to open their mouths.
Every one is entitled to their opinion though, it's not their fault they don't understand
I never even stated my opinion.
I suppose smoker get sick of people trying to force them to quit or force their opinion on them, so I do understand I've been there.
I'm a non smoker or vaper and I hate people who look down their noses at smokers. They discust me not the smokers.
Its ignorance that causes people to bad mouth smokers and they should learn about addiction before they feel the need to open their mouths.
Every one is entitled to their opinion though, it's not their fault they don't understand
Love it the government changes its mind every 5 minutes I agree its ridiculous
The only testing I saw was using mice.
As far as nicotine, see this: Truth About Vaping - Episode 2 "The Nicotine Misconception".
This one is also enlightening: Truth About Vaping - Episode 1 "Why They Hate Us"
As far as nicotine, see this: Truth About Vaping - Episode 2 "The Nicotine Misconception".
This one is also enlightening: Truth About Vaping - Episode 1 "Why They Hate Us"
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