My advise to you is to find a better doctor. Only a crackpot would think vaping is worst than cigarettes. If you had been smoking for a long time after switching to vaping just within weeks people would notice less coughing. The nicotine is not harmful to you if you don't over do it and is beneficial to the brain
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3 doctors.
Family Doc is thrilled with vaping.
Cardiologist approves.
Pulmonologist is against breathing in anything foreign but admits he is not well informed.
you know you're getting old when you have several 'ologists'.
Family Doc is thrilled with vaping.
Cardiologist approves.
Pulmonologist is against breathing in anything foreign but admits he is not well informed.
you know you're getting old when you have several 'ologists'.
My response to most things is like this goes something along the lines of.. Usually I'll get interrupted a few times but generally this is the info I give..
I enjoy using nicotine, based on my own research and the various studies I've read vapor products offer the lowest risk when it comes to the use of nicotine via inhalation which is the manner that I enjoy it most. Pharmaceutical Grade Nicotine on it's own outside of tobacco at the levels vapers use it is about as dangerous to humans as caffeine, I understand the risks involved and I personally feel that for me the benefits I receive from the use of nicotine outweigh the risks and and have no plans on stopping in the foreseeable future.
If you know any smokers that can't or don't even want to quit, vapor products are the next best thing, removing combustion from the equation alone represents a massive reduction in exposure to toxins, if you want to learn more about vapor products beyond what you see in the media I can send you a information package on them.
I enjoy using nicotine, based on my own research and the various studies I've read vapor products offer the lowest risk when it comes to the use of nicotine via inhalation which is the manner that I enjoy it most. Pharmaceutical Grade Nicotine on it's own outside of tobacco at the levels vapers use it is about as dangerous to humans as caffeine, I understand the risks involved and I personally feel that for me the benefits I receive from the use of nicotine outweigh the risks and and have no plans on stopping in the foreseeable future.
If you know any smokers that can't or don't even want to quit, vapor products are the next best thing, removing combustion from the equation alone represents a massive reduction in exposure to toxins, if you want to learn more about vapor products beyond what you see in the media I can send you a information package on them.
I have an acquaintance who has suffered with congestive heart failure for years. She has issues and is a heavy smoker and drinker and is hospitalized at least once per year. Amazingly she works full time. She recently lost 2 family members. Her doctor, a cardiologist, said that he knows it is hard to give up everything at once and he actually suggested she try vaping and taper down and then work on giving up drinking. I do not think he is an expert of vaping but he told her he believes it is less harmful.
This sounds exactly like my mother-in-law. She's an on again, off again vaper, I think she'd last been using an eGo One, but I don't see her much.
My doctors are for vaping. So I can't relate to this at all. I just think there's a lot of bad information out there.
There is SO much bad information out there and doctors are no different than the general population unless it is something that he or she is interested in learning about. That is too bad but seems to be a fact. I usually get a yearly bout of pneumonia (hopefully not this year because I got the vaccine even though I am below the recommended age for the pneumonia vaccine.) The last time I did have a go-round with pneumonia, I was in tears at the doctor's office, telling her that I quit smoking and hadn't had bronchitis since quitting but still get pneumonia and wondered if it was vaping. She assured me it was not and told me I was doing the right thing by making the switch. I like her. 
I'm going to be honest with you. I'd find a different doctor. What kind of a medical professional gets their medical advice from "the news"?
All my doctors have ever said was that nothing but clean air is better than vaping but that vaping is better than smoking....
But if your new doctor quotes the news as her healthcare advice source? Nope... I'd be seeing a different doctor because it sounds like your paying the news to diagnose you and not a healthcare professional.
For that you can just talk to CNN to find out how healthy they think you are...
All my doctors have ever said was that nothing but clean air is better than vaping but that vaping is better than smoking....
But if your new doctor quotes the news as her healthcare advice source? Nope... I'd be seeing a different doctor because it sounds like your paying the news to diagnose you and not a healthcare professional.
For that you can just talk to CNN to find out how healthy they think you are...
You just had to say this as I was inhaling from a 8 coil 30mm RDA didn't you? Lol
Since I can't quit coughing I better turn on Fox News. Lol
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What do you think is more dangerous, being in a club full of disco fog or being in the same club which is now burning and filling with smoke?
It doesnt take a genius or a medical degree to figure that riddle out.
The science is, for the most and most important part, done for vaping. Its not a matter of "opinions". Its either knowing or not knowing.
I care for "opinions" on this matter as much as I care for opinions on the shape of the earth. If a doctor tells me the earth is a hollow disk I´ll prolly laugh. If they tell me vaping is as harmful as smoking, I´ll laugh as well.
It doesnt take a genius or a medical degree to figure that riddle out.
The science is, for the most and most important part, done for vaping. Its not a matter of "opinions". Its either knowing or not knowing.
I care for "opinions" on this matter as much as I care for opinions on the shape of the earth. If a doctor tells me the earth is a hollow disk I´ll prolly laugh. If they tell me vaping is as harmful as smoking, I´ll laugh as well.
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Yes, I tried it a few times.
Fortunately the only side effects for me was the weird dreams and nausea.
Problem was I never quit smoking, just dual using the Chantix and smoking.
Also tried Wellbutrin, basically an anti-depressant.
Never quit with that, but continued taking it for a couple years, because it made me "happy".
Doctors are not educated, they are "trained". The profession uses that expression itself and for good reason.
Doctors are in fact "trained" and are supposed to continue their "training" by reading reputable medical journals with studies that are better than "news stories." (I always picture them doing it in the bathroom for some reason...)
More to the point though, you have a doc who hates vaping and in your own words appeared close minded and you were afraid to contest the point? That's not the type of patient-doctor relationship I care to have. My docs listen to me, and offer me options if I am unhappy, and are just all around awesome. If I tell them a "new" fact, they are likely to research it (right there on their tiny little doctor camcorders or whatever they are) or look into it later.
You could try educating her, but if it is a massive fail, I would seek out another doctor, you don't
need that kind of headache when you are ill. Those types of medical professionals make me want to puke. ALL my docs have been fine with vaping, SO happy about it. Yes, I was a 3 ppd smoker and had pneumonia for 18 months, well, the look on their faces was priceless when I told them I'd switched to vaping, and one of my PCPs actually vapes himself. He's a great source of info.
I'd say you could do better in a doc.
Anna
More to the point though, you have a doc who hates vaping and in your own words appeared close minded and you were afraid to contest the point? That's not the type of patient-doctor relationship I care to have. My docs listen to me, and offer me options if I am unhappy, and are just all around awesome. If I tell them a "new" fact, they are likely to research it (right there on their tiny little doctor camcorders or whatever they are) or look into it later.
You could try educating her, but if it is a massive fail, I would seek out another doctor, you don't
need that kind of headache when you are ill. Those types of medical professionals make me want to puke. ALL my docs have been fine with vaping, SO happy about it. Yes, I was a 3 ppd smoker and had pneumonia for 18 months, well, the look on their faces was priceless when I told them I'd switched to vaping, and one of my PCPs actually vapes himself. He's a great source of info.
I'd say you could do better in a doc.
Anna
I do have to say my time taking chantix was definitely not spent smoking... but then after a few days unable to leave the bathroom for puking my guts out and resting in between bouts of vomiting on the cold tile bathroom floor, a cigarette was definitely the last thing on my mind...
It IS a great crash weight loss program however. .. it sucks for quitting smoking. .. most people might like to leave the bathroom when attempting to quit smoking.
My God that was years ago but I was so severely ill from that stuff I STILL remember it!
I wanted to try it when it came out and ALL my docs were like, "Dear, keep smoking, you'll live longer." When all those reports started coming out regarding the side effects... Well, I could have wound up in the news with the headline "Dead ex-smoker successfully quit smoking. Go Chantix."
Heh.
Anna
Heh.
Anna
Smart doctors!
Mine told me that while nausea was a side affect the level of nausea I had "rose to the level of an allergic reaction" to the drug.
However, I think he loved that phrase because he said the same thing when he put me on Morphine.. I was taking the extended release oxycontin for pain but then the insurance company decided they didn't want to pay for extended release anymore and because the doctor needed me to take as few pills as possible since I'm someone taking meds for life and would enjoy having a liver toward the end of it my doc switched it to morphine..
Well I itched and itched and itched... it was horrendous... I went back to the doc ans told him if I took that another day I wasn't going to have any skin left and he said "I believe this rises to the level of an allergic reaction"
Hahaha... If the side affects are bad, with him you were just allergic. ..
I have often wondered if the final clinical trial of a new drug is its release to the general public.
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