Does anyone have a Sigelai 20W?

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Ordered my 20W from slowtech on 2 April and it hit Chicago today. Not too bad. Might get it and my Fogger V4 the same day :)
My fasttech order shipped on 4/1 via USPS First Class ePacket and hasn't shown any updates since

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My fasttech order shipped on 4/1 via USPS First Class ePacket and hasn't shown any updates since

April 2, 2014 , 1:25 pm
Processed Through Sort Facility
SHENZHEN EMS, CHINA

What shipping method did you choose?

Default shipping. Mine showed the same as yours until this morning.
 

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The size and form factor are very good. It's a solid, hefty feeling piece of kit that feels good in the hand. It feels just about perfectly balanced with a Hcigar Keyfun 3.1 clone on top. Not too top heavy as I feared it might be. The matte finish is almost soft to the touch. It's very nice. The polished trim on the MOD and screen border nicely. It is done sparingly, and complements the button. It's just enough flash without going anywhere past minimal. The threading is very good, but not in the same class as some other MODs (The Roller, for instance, where the threads are butter).

The controls are easy. Do not let the tilt function sway you from this purchase. It's not terribly finicky and the controls are intuitive. It took me about 1 minute to master changing wattages to where I'm exactly on where I want to be most of the time. When I'm not exactly on, I haven't been more than .2w away, and that was only once. I wish there a few more options in the settings (pre-set wattages for different attys or eLiquids, the ability to set backlight time). The screen is easily readable in "dim" mode even in a very brightly lit room. Being in the sun may, however, prove seeing the "dim" screen difficult. I DO NOT like that you have to push the fire button to see the fully lit screen, and to make it worse, it dims IMMEDIATELY after releasing the fire button. I'd REALLY like the ability to set that myself. 5-20 seconds seems like it would be a good range for me. Unfortunately, it's instantly. All of the information on the screen is easily readable and it's layout is nice. It gives all of the information you want, and presents it logically. It seems a better presentation than the DNA systems (from the pictures I have seen as I don't own a DNA chipped MOD). I cannot read the screen when vaping with a Kayfun. I'm with Busardo: I hate the flash screen when you power the unit up. I know what brand MOD I bought, and I don't need to see which chip controls the MOD every time I turn the thing on. I also hate the SIGELEI logo directly underneath the fire button. If you're going to do it, do it right. The very generic SIGELEI logo cheapens the MOD on the otherwise sleek look of the MOD. If they had an interesting logo that would add character to the MOD (like many independent MOD makers have) it would be fine, but their logo is that of a technology company with a bland presentation.

The fire button itself is good. Not Great, but good (The Roller has set the bar for what I consider a great button). It has a firm tactile push, and it isn't very picky: even pushing the button on the edge fires the button (that could be good or bad - I see it as a good thing as this is a "basement" vape, and having to press the exact center of a button is annoying in the dark). It has a bit of wiggle, but not enough to be overtly bothersome. It also rattles very slightly. I'm currently watching TV at a reasonable volume and I can hear rattle, but only when I put it up to my ear. When I hold it at keyboard distance from me, I cannot hear it.

Currently I'm vaping Rocket Pop by Rocket Fuel Vapes in an Hcigar Kayfun 3.1 clone with a 3/32" micro coil using 28g kanthal (9 wraps) at 1.7Ω (1.69Ω on the Ω meter) with my wattage set at 10w. I'm using the big 30A, 2600mah, 18650 Sony. It's vaping smoothly, and simultaneously like a beast. It easily the best vape I've had yet (disclaimer: I haven't been vaping with MODs and RBA/RDAs for very long so my sample size is small).

This Sigelei seems like it's going to prove to be a very nice MOD at a very good price. I ordered from Fast Tech. It took 1 day for them to ship, then another 8 for it to get here. 9 days from China ain't too bad.
 

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If they changed the readout, that's not good. Voltage drop when you hit the power button is completely normal, but if it swings wildly after you let go then perhaps you should stop using that particular battery. A bit of movement is normal when not under load (a few one hundredths of a volt) but if voltage swings are in the tenths then something is not right.


thank you. i will have to wait until i get a 2nd IMR battery to see if it's the battery. I bought the first one at a local shop. A MNKE IMR (orange). it seems to do it when i take short drags. I have COPD so i can only take short ones.

could one of you try a short drag and see if yours does it also? 4 secs or less
 

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It's completely normal for the voltage reading to drop while the fire button is pressed. It's just showing what your battery is doing under load. The static voltage reading is what the battery is putting out according to your set wattage and the Ω of you atty. The one that fluctuates slightly is the overall charge of your battery. Mine fluctuates a couple hundredths of a volt even when not firing.
 

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What exactly is it doing? Dropping voltage while you're pressing the fire button or swinging wildly after you've let go? I'm not sure which you're asking me to verify.


swings wildly after letting go of the button.

on another note, i kind of like the screen flash when inserting a battery. it's just like my old YJ mod i got several years ago. it lets me know the battery has juice when i put it in. not a big deal to do the 5 clicks to turn it on. my YJ was the same only i had to click really fast to get it to power on. this one is a nice smooth 5 clicks = done.
 

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It's completely normal for the voltage reading to drop while the fire button is pressed. It's just showing what your battery is doing under load. The static voltage reading is what the battery is putting out according to your set wattage and the Ω of you atty. The one that fluctuates slightly is the overall charge of your battery. Mine fluctuates a couple hundredths of a volt even when not firing.


thank you BGT. i thought that might be it, so thank you for confirming.
 

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swings wildly after letting go of the button.

on another note, i kind of like the screen flash when inserting a battery. it's just like my old YJ mod i got several years ago. it lets me know the battery has juice when i put it in. not a big deal to do the 5 clicks to turn it on. my YJ was the same only i had to click really fast to get it to power on. this one is a nice smooth 5 clicks = done.

If you are going back and forth between something like 3.99 volts to 3.97 volts after you release the button, that is fine. If you are going back and forth from 3.97 volts to 3.77 volts and back after releasing the button, I don't think that's normal and you battery may be having difficulty with the drain. Going from something like 3.97 volts to 3.67 volts while you are firing the unit would be considered good performance (the drop under load indicates the health iof the battery -- the larger the drop under load the more worn out it is). If you are using a protected battery, you should stop using it.

Out of curiosity, what is your voltage fluctuating between when you've released the fire button?
 

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If you are going back and forth between something like 3.99 volts to 3.97 volts after you release the button, that is fine. If you are going back and forth from 3.97 volts to 3.77 volts and back after releasing the button, I don't think that's normal and you battery may be having difficulty with the drain. Going from something like 3.97 volts to 3.67 volts while you are firing the unit would be considered good performance (the drop under load indicates the health iof the battery -- the larger the drop under load the more worn out it is). If you are using a protected battery, you should stop using it.

Out of curiosity, what is your voltage fluctuating between when you've released the fire button?

i'll have to see what the fluctuation is, if it goes down more than 3 1/10ths
 

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Hey you guys and gals that are using your 20w, question: is there a time-out on amount of time for each button press? I.e., if you press the button and draw for over a certain amount of time, does it shut off power to the atty like the provari/MVP does?

Yes.

I'm pretty sure it's 10 seconds though I haven't timed it. I've only hit the limit a couple of time in 2.5 days of steady use.
 

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ok i just watched it and it fluctuates really fast from 4.16 to 4.12. if that is normal then i won't worry about it. it's on my MNKE IMR.

It's absolutely normal.

The control head is taking real-time readings of the battery charge, and those readings fluctuate normally.

There is nothing to worry about.
 

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I'm waiting for the next chipset (35W) to come out...soon from what I'm reading and hearing. Does anyone know of a reasonably priced high watt PV that can regulate down and not just up in wattage? After watching Sigelei 20W reviews on YouTube by pbusardo and rip trippers I realized that I wouldn't like being "forced" to vape at a minimum of 10+W....I have several juices and clearos that taste burnt WELL below 10W!!
 

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I'm waiting for the next chipset (35W) to come out...soon from what I'm reading and hearing. Does anyone know of a reasonably priced high watt PV that can regulate down and not just up in wattage? After watching Sigelei 20W reviews on YouTube by pbusardo and rip trippers I realized that I wouldn't like being "forced" to vape at a minimum of 10+W....I have several juices and clearos that taste burnt WELL below 10W!!

Why would you be forced to vape at a minimum of 10 watts? With a 2 ohm clearo, you can do 7 watts with no problem if that's what you really want. I'm pretty sure the minimum wattage limitation is when the battery is under load too, not resting. Also, keep in mind devices with smooth output are much more resistant to burning than those 33mhz chips. I find I can vape at much higher wattages with this than I could with either my VAMO or SVD. Basically, it works just like an unregulated device if the voltage setting for the watts you've selected is lower than the battery under load.
 
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