Done with cartotanks

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NeMom

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I am so done with carto tanks. I am sick sick sick of leaking juice. Sick of taking a hit and getting a mouth full of hot liquid. I am over them.:mad:

I am trying clearomizers (CE5). They are not my favorite but since I got a five pack and extra heads I will give them a chance.
I have tried XL cartomizers but got sick of going through juice like it was water and the burnt taste after using them for a couple days.

I really like the flavor and convience of the carto tanks but am over getting a mouthful of hot juice and leaking money all over the place.

I do not DYI my own juice and am not ready too so all the juice I leak costs me money and I am actually suprised at the amount I go through. Apparently, I vape A LOT based on the amount of juice I go through.

Just a vent - Love vaping but today I am sick of all the problems.:ohmy:
 

ShayBabe15

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I had the same issues, then I made the switch to Clearos. Granted, they weren't my cup of tea either, but I got used to them. If you clean them well and dry burn them, you shouldn't get that disgusting burnt taste. I'm using a disposable right now, it's lasted me two weeks already. No burnt taste yet, still works fine. I do however want to use the glass tanks, really looking forward to those. Hopefully, next paycheck:)
 

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I am so done with carto tanks. I am sick sick sick of leaking juice. Sick of taking a hit and getting a mouth full of hot liquid. I am over them.:mad:

I am trying clearomizers (CE5). They are not my favorite but since I got a five pack and extra heads I will give them a chance.
I have tried XL cartomizers but got sick of going through juice like it was water and the burnt taste after using them for a couple days.

I really like the flavor and convience of the carto tanks but am over getting a mouthful of hot juice and leaking money all over the place.

I do not DYI my own juice and am not ready too so all the juice I leak costs me money and I am actually suprised at the amount I go through. Apparently, I vape A LOT based on the amount of juice I go through.

Just a vent - Love vaping but today I am sick of all the problems.:ohmy:

What cartos are you using in your tank? I found that 3 holes is too many and I got the same flooding problem, but when I switched to 2 holes I haven't had a problem yet....
 

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You are well on your way towards salvation! Once you are 'done' with the clearomizers try a rebuildable atomizer. No more hot juice in the mouth, never a bad tasting drag, flavor for days & brutal satisfaction.

I, was, just, like, you....about a month ago. Switched to an RBA that Reos Mods sells for $40 & won't look back.
 

Insaniac

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Yeah tell us what your set up is. I've used carts a few times and didn't have so much of a problem but I didn't use them long enough to give a good informed opinion. I'm using an ego with a ce4 and I haven't had any problems with dry hits or leaks or any of the other stuff people complain about. Sometimes I wonder what other people are doing. I saw some guy complaining about burning his clearomizer and making a big fuss, but he was running it at over 7 volts. I mean c'mon, I'd be surprised if he didn't fry them. I'd get a nice clearo tank and make sure you look at the volt/ohm chart when you choose your resistance. It's simple.

I would look into mixing your own liquid, its so much more cost effective and easy to do. I can mix up a small batch in less than 3 mins and smoke it for a few days and it tastes great. You can get flavoring for like $1.50 on some sites. A good bottle of vg and pg go a long way. You can even buy them premixed with nicotine, you'd only have to mix two liquids together and be done.
 

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Good gear is important. I use an M1A1 tank, Ikenvape cartos, and punch my own cartos, 2 holes, using the carto punch that valleyvapes carries.
M1A1 -- good seals, tank stays tight on the carto. The Phiniac pyrex tanks from Moorea are also super.

Ikenvape cartos -- dense filler, with well punched holes they are consistent producers. I run 18 - 20 ml/carto.

Punch -- decent sized holes, but not penetrating too deep into the carto body, are crucial. Tighten the screw until you feel it just touch the carto body, then two full turns (720 degrees). Back the screw out, then punch the second hole on the opposite side of the carto.

Prime the carto after first inserting it into the tank -- top fill it a bit, to initially wet the filler, provides a good path for the liquid from the tank to get to the central atomizer.

If clearomizers do the trick for you, stellar. I haven't used current clearos, I tried early CE2 filler-less cartos way back when.
 

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I won't try to say that this tank is better than that tank. a tank is pretty much a tank, it's a tube that goes over your cartos. some are more rugged, some are fancier. But my hand blown froggie from HDV works the same way as my cheapass j-tanks.

It all depends on your cartos, how many holes, and your PG/VG ratio.

the ikenvape pre-punched tank cartos worked just fabulous for me, two holes. I punched a boge the other day, two holes, works just fine with my 50/50. do NOT like smoktech pre-punched, i have to pull the posts constantly.

With an adequate carto, I might get a tiny drop on the battery terminal if i leave it unvaped overnight, but that's not a big deal. it's not like, flooded.

If you're using 100% VG, you might need three holes. 50/50 like me, two holes. 70/30, one hole will probably do it. the more VG the thicker the juice, generally, and the more room it needs to wick.

tell us more about your setup, OP, we can help.
 

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I have two tanks. I think they are both DCT type tanks. One is just a plastic tube and the other is a harder better quality plastic with a locking ring on the bottom. Sorry don't know the name of them.
I use dual punched cartos - purchased pre punched. My juice is 70VG/30PG. I generally use the tanks on my VAMO (3.4-3.7v range depending on juice) but I also have used them on my KGO batteries and still have the leaking issue.

How do you know if an O ring is bad? What is lubing an O ring?
 

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A ring is bad if you can see any cuts or stretching on it.

Lubing it is just getting it wet, a bit of eliquid is fine

The carto should be inserted with a twisting motion, like screwing in a light bulb. This compresses the oring instead of shearing it, so that it doesn't get nicked. Use the twisting motion when the carto is clearing both the bottom and the top rings.
 

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There are a couple things that need to be said about Carto-Tanks, that evidently not everybody knows:

First of all, it's impossible for a Carto-Tank to perform any way- good or bad. A Carto-Tank doesn't perform, it simply holds juice, that's it. As long as the juice is compatible with the tank material (certain juices crack certain plastics) and as long as the tank doesn't leak, then it's doing it's job 100% and anything else is just aesthetics and convenience related.

When just using a cartomizer, its job is to retain juice in the filler material, transfer it to the coil, and vaporize the juice. When using a cartomizer in a Carto-Tank, it has all those same jobs, but the additional job of sucking juice from the tank into the carto (as to avoid burning due to lack of juice) and the job of making sure too much juice doesn't get into the carto, from the tank (as to avoid flooding)

The carto also takes on the responsibility of becoming a juice-tight structural element of the Carto-Tank system. Both the carto and the tank itself have a responsibility to seal well against each other. A carto that has been warped during punching will sometimes fail to seal against the tank's endcaps, and will leak juice. If the interior O-Ring of the tank's end caps becomes damaged from inserting the carto without taking precautions (such as the slap yo mama tank tool) this can also cause the seal to leak juice.

Any issues at all related to vape quality are not influenced at all by the tank itself. The carto alone has control over vapor, flavor, and throat hit. The carto alone has control over whether or not the coil gets too much juice and floods, or too little juice and burns.

There are tons of different tanks out there, over 100 if I had to put a random number on it, so you can pick and choose which designs or features you prefer, or which ones you hate. The tank you describe with the locking ring won't ever fall off the carto, something few other tanks can claim. But, it has it's own issues. It's plastic tank body will etch and crack with certain juices. It also requires you to use XL cartos. Because the endcaps are permanently joined to the tank tube, they won't leak or fall off either, but adhesives are used (if that sort of thing worries you) and you cannot take them completely apart to give them a thorough cleaning.

If those are issues for you, you can get glass tanks that won't etch, tanks with caps that come off and can be completely taken apart. Shorter tanks so standard length cartos can be used. I'm starting to ramble now, but my point is, the choices are almost endless on how you want to configure your tank, so think about what you do, and don't, like and then set about finding a tank that matches those needs and wants.

If performance is an issue then try out some different cartos and see which ones you like. If flooding or lack of juice feeding is an issue then play around with different sized holes, and different number of holes. Almost every single issue people have with carto-tanks is actually user error, or a specific feature or design of THAT specific tank they are using, but not ALL tanks, so you can't really hate carto tanks unless you just hate cartos, because any complaint can either be fixed by getting a different tank or different carto.
 
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Uncle Chuck. Excellent job. :thumbs:

I couldn't tell if NeMom is interested in getting some help, or was really giving up on tanks. No sense for us to offer help if her mind is already made up. It then becomes a waste of time to everyone.

So what is it, NeMom? Do you want help to get setup with a working, non-leaking, no-juice spitting cartotank, or were you serious about going with clearomizers. :facepalm:
 
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