Dont Dry Burn Your Kanthal
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My ''untorched'' coil builds are holding up very well,i just went tru 10 mills of juice and coils are still looking shiny and clean.They dont gunk up at all and the wicks are still white.There was a small black film on the coils after 5 mills and all i did to clean them up was a few small pulses at the lowest watt setiing and a swab with water and a q-tip.
My ''untorched'' coil builds are holding up very well,i just went tru 10 mills of juice and coils are still looking shiny and clean.They dont gunk up at all and the wicks are still white.There was a small black film on the coils after 5 mills and all i did to clean them up was a few small pulses at the lowest watt setiing and a swab with water and a q-tip.
not sure if i already said but the nichrome80 was the only one i didnt like using the non oxidisation method.
How are you getting on HeavyRocker, whats the longest youve gone on the same wick or are you still using it now?
i've gone back to using and making other dif wires But i'm defo gonna keep unoxidised in my rotation of fav wires.
How are you getting on HeavyRocker, whats the longest youve gone on the same wick or are you still using it now?
i've gone back to using and making other dif wires But i'm defo gonna keep unoxidised in my rotation of fav wires.
i'm still relatively new to the whole world of vaping and coil designing. I've discovered on my own that spaced coils are much easier to work with. I've been making transformer coils, fused clapton variations and such. Just enough spacing and it has been working and wicking well so far. sometimes, with the transformer coil in my twisted messes RDA, i can drip several drops on the coil and fire off it wickless. these multi stranded coil designs seem to really hold juice like whoa! but i digress. here is a picture of a twisted coil design spaced out in my mutation RDA.
I'm rebuilding all my rda's this weekend. I'm gonna try this new (old?) method. The tips I've read on getting evenly spaced are priceless!
its always worth taking the top off your atty and test firing it for the length of time you take a drag and look out for any glowing parts nr the legs, wether your doing oxidised or unoxidised
if your coil isnt fully filled at the ends or especially the end of the coil where the last wrap isnt supporting the wick you will see that last wrap glow, its very easily overlooked and thats why im saying
if your coil isnt fully filled at the ends or especially the end of the coil where the last wrap isnt supporting the wick you will see that last wrap glow, its very easily overlooked and thats why im saying
I'm sorry. I wish this were the case. Maybe it is subjectivity but I really don't get how we can be on opposite ends of this. I've been experimenting a lot with this lately because I want to be a safer vaper but I've gotten to the point where I've built two of the exact same rdas and rtas one pair with spaced "unoxidized" coils and the other with dry-burned pulsed and pinched coils. Same juice, same resistance, same wattage. The spaced non-dry-burned coils' flavor was so lacking and horrible it maddened me. Like I was ...... I wasted the time and ripped out my dry-burned, pinched perfect fused claptons to do this stupid test. This is the third time I've tried spaced coils. And no, no, no the flavor sucks. It sucks. It's empty, thin air with a hint of my juicers flavor and not the dense, wet flavorful vape that I'm used to.
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jj its kinda funny cus i always thought myself pretty dabhand at coiling and wicking untill i started doing this deoxidized, ofcourse i dont want to be vaping a coil that is oxidizing as im going,(as i keep mentioning) i now even with normal builds will keep the cap off the atty and blast it for the 1/2second i take my pull to see if any outer parts of the coil glow, it is so important! and yes sometimes on a build where i would just wick it and vape it as i have been for so long ive noticed that sometimes i will get a tiny glow, on a normal build it will add throat hit.
It could just be mate that you havent wicked tight enuff? what do you use for wick? i also noticed that i got on better with cotton than rayon as the cotton will expand a little thus helping you in the un-oxied builds, but then i dont use rayon all the time and maybe if you pulled it though so it squeeked it would be good to go.
It could just be mate that you havent wicked tight enuff? what do you use for wick? i also noticed that i got on better with cotton than rayon as the cotton will expand a little thus helping you in the un-oxied builds, but then i dont use rayon all the time and maybe if you pulled it though so it squeeked it would be good to go.
I use Japanese organic cotton for wicking in everything and I wick it tight so that there's almost enough resistance to move the coil but doesn't.
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Is there a consensus here on whether it is better/safer to dry burn kanthal wire prior to constructing the wick/coul build? I'm planning on doing my first coil build this weekend.
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I don't know any the consensus here on this thread, but the consensus of the vaping population I'm confident do dry burn their coils because it is better. Whether it is safer or not? No one really knows.
Dry burning is currently the only way to spot a short and work it out to get your coils to heat evenly. This is especially important for advanced or complex builds like any clapton build. Since you're saying your first build I doubt you'll be attempting anything than a simple standard coil. You can still get shorts here and definitely uneven heating with standard contact coils. A lot of people seem to start with spaced coils because they're easier. I never started with spaced coils. IMO they are harder than simple contact coils. Anyway, to answer your question, most people do dry burn their coils. It's the only way to know/work out shorts on a contact coil. And I'm pretty sure most people do contact coils as opposed to spaced coils. Of course I'm speaking ONLY about kanthal and nichrome builds NOT about temperature control which is a whole other world.
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SLIPPY, say it isn't so!!Hi Heavyrocker, im around 24hrs in so far on one atty with this 'unburnt' wire, it's 0.08ohm 21g Ti, 2.5id dual, 8wrap each and it tastes exactly the same as when i took my first vape from it, very impressed, for such a hot build it's probably also guzzled about 3ml of juice but the cotton wick is still that off white colour as it was new and i have no gunking, nothing appearing on the coils or between wraps, they still look spanking.
I said to someone over a year ago that there is something kinda special about a fresh coil that tastes so dam good! but its short lived and that maybe this was the reason why i wasnt contented enough to just stick with my latest coil, i think you found the thing that i was chasing, no need for me to make any fancy coils anymore.
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See, I understand spaced for titanium because you can't dry burn it. And I understand the flavor being good because many claim it to be the cleanest flavor they've experienced. But, I don't see how spaced kanthal or nichrome wires can give better flavor than a fused clapton kanthal or n80 build.
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I have vaped spaced builds without ever glowing my coils to set them or to clean them. It's a good vape and perhaps less toxic but it is more of a Tootle Puff than a Mod Womp. It takes forever to ramp up and when it does it burns hot and really heats up the top cap. After Mod Womping all the crazy coils it would be really tough to go back to this style of vaping.
Exactly the predicament I'm in. I have been vaping fused claptons for months and I tried a spaced non-dry-burned kanthal build the other day and it tasted like empty air. I hated it. I even have claptons in my tank because simple micro coils and spaced cools in it tasted like, well, nothing. Light, airy vapor with a hint of the flavor I was expecting. I wonder if it ever comes back. If I just vape on simple coils for awhile if I just forget the flavor of claptons and the like.
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Wharf, making fancy coils is like a Bug, i dont think i'll ever get that out of my blood, as said earlier (i think i said anyway) i do still use fancy coils and still use unoxied wire in other attys, atm i've been enjoying a 3x 26g core alienwire which has been a perfect build for me so i havent strayed from it to anything else for a little over a week now( this is a long time forr me
) but as i said i have a little arsenal of coils that i usually rotate through when the taste buds get used to the present setup which the unoxied has defo become a part of. 
so with the spacing, are you using another wire? I would think to wrap a spaced coil you could use two wires wrapped like a parallel build, then remove one wire for even spacing between the coils. I'm gonna try in in my Mephisto V1 this evening with some 28 ga N80
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