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I finally got myself one of these double carto adapters, just for fun. I am using to LR cartos. On my mvp it's registered 0.7 ohms. I got it to fire one time on the mvp (which btw, I am able to use my mvp at .9 or 1.0 ohms normally no problem) but after it fired the first time it wouldn't fire again. I tried it on my SID as well, it read low load. So I started telling myself-here is another reason I need to get myself a mechanical mod. (yes, searching for excuses, lol) Moving on, I finally put it on one of my lil 900 mah ego batteries and it is working perfectly. Is this safe? I am actually enjoying it. Good way to try two flavors together too... Anyhow, any insight would be appreciated :vapor:
 

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I finally got myself one of these double carto adapters, just for fun. I am using to LR cartos. On my mvp it's registered 0.7 ohms. I got it to fire one time on the mvp (which btw, I am able to use my mvp at .9 or 1.0 ohms normally no problem) but after it fired the first time it wouldn't fire again. I tried it on my SID as well, it read low load. So I started telling myself-here is another reason I need to get myself a mechanical mod. (yes, searching for excuses, lol) Moving on, I finally put it on one of my lil 900 mah ego batteries and it is working perfectly. Is this safe? I am actually enjoying it. Good way to try two flavors together too... Anyhow, any insight would be appreciated :vapor:
Egos typically have a 2 to 2.5 amp maximum continuous drain limit. This is insufficient for 0.7Ω, with 5.3 amps and 20 watts being called for at 3.7v. To be honest, I'm surprised it works and am guessing it doesn't work as well - at least as it might with the more appropriate available amperage.

An excuse to get an unregulated mech? More like, what is your excuse for not having one already? :laugh:
 

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The ego battery is actually working great. The vapor production is awesome... However, if it is in fact unsafe, I am discontinuing use now... Bummer...

About the mechanical-to be honest a lot of what has held me back is fear... I know there are a lot of safety concerns when using one. Battery safety is not something I have cone to understand yet. I've been vaping since August 2013 and I have learned to rebuild. I have several rebuildable atties waiting to be used. I've tried em here and there with my current pv's but do not see super amazing benefits yet. From what I have read and learned using a mech mod results are totally different. Got any tips ya might want to share with me? Good tgreads to point mw towards? Suggestions on first mech mods even? I would love any input!!! :)
 

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Dangggit, double post....

I clicked your links, will read the info you have through those!!!
Ha ha ha... yes, the links. That would have been my response to post #3. Steam Engine for developing coils on paper, or rather, on screen... then the "big list O' links"... which I wrote for beginners to old hands. Information to build the mind. ;-)

If you want a Ohm's law calculator a bit less cluttered with "necessities", the one at locust.net is handy as well... I still use it. It will tell you why 0.7Ω on an eGo seems a bit not right. :ohmy:
 

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I suppose in this case fear of the unknown is expected. Go here and read, read, read. Watch some youtube videos. Once you understand battery safety, resistance, current, voltage, power, Ohm's Law, etc, you can substitute knowledge for fear and safely enjoy a mech mod. Really, the only way to get injured is to do something careless or out right stupid. At the risk of sounding corny, as long as you respect the power, you will be fine.
 

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:) thanks for the other calculator... Started reading the info yesterday provided by your links, man do I feel overwhelmed but dangit, I am gonna keep at it til I get it. Finally decided to inspire myself and broke out one of my 7 rebuildable last night. I tinkered and finally got a great coil set up in it. Dual coil at .9 ohms-on my mvp. Crazy how high I can set my volts or watts and NOT burn the juice or wick... Of course the mvp has its limits... I have read SO MUCH about how great building your own coils is-better flavor, vapor and so on. I build em for my huabands protanks but a while back I started using carto tanks and was so glad to be done with clearomizers. I found them to be a p.i.t.a personally... When I want my nicotine fix, I don't want the hassle that can come from a clearo. Anyhow, I have a few min before im on the clock. Time to 'study'... Thanks again for your help -have a great day!
Ha ha ha... yes, the links. That would have been my response to post #3. Steam Engine for developing coils on paper, or rather, on screen... then the "big list O' links"... which I wrote for beginners to old hands. Information to build the mind. ;-)

If you want a Ohm's law calculator a bit less cluttered with "necessities", the one at locust.net is handy as well... I still use it. It will tell you why 0.7Ω on an eGo seems a bit not right. :ohmy:
 

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Thanks for the link and advice!!! :) I'm hopeful the light clicks on and I won't feel like I'm 'risking it' soon and knowledge WILL override my fear... I have stopped myself from buying a mech mod so I wouldn't get in the mind set of 'oh hell, I will just try it and if it works, no problem' because I like my hands and face- lol... However, now that I am getting a little more comfortable I just might buy soon so once I have my ah, ha! moment, I don't have to wait 3 or more days to get my hands on one to use. Lol! Wish me luck!!!
I suppose in this case fear of the unknown is expected. Go here and read, read, read. Watch some youtube videos. Once you understand battery safety, resistance, current, voltage, power, Ohm's Law, etc, you can substitute knowledge for fear and safely enjoy a mech mod. Really, the only way to get injured is to do something careless or out right stupid. At the risk of sounding corny, as long as you respect the power, you will be fine.
 
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Good luck. :)

I think three very important components to vaping safely with a mechanical mod are:

- Understanding Ohm's Law (or using a calculator).
- Using an ohm meter to check your build - don't ever want to have a short, plus you need to know the resistance of your coils/build to calculate the current draw before you apply voltage.
- Using quality batteries that have the appropriate current rating for your application (don't try to draw 10 amps from a battery rated at 5 amps).
 

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Is it better to use a multi meter rather than just using an ohm reader (lil black box) orbtesting on one of my other devices like the mvp? Are there more benefits to using multi meter?
Good luck. :)

I think three very important components to vaping safely with a mechanical mod are:

- Understanding Ohm's Law (or using a calculator).
- Using an ohm meter to check your build - don't ever want to have a short, plus you need to know the resistance of your coils/build to calculate the current draw before you apply voltage.
- Using quality batteries that have the appropriate current rating for your application (don't try to draw 10 amps from a battery rated at 5 amps).
 

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I use a little black box.

I'm going to admit that I have a multimeter but have never actually checked the accuracy of the black box. I really need to check the resistance of my build with the black box and verify the reading with my multimeter - at least a couple of times to test the integrity of the black box. I have also used a Sigelei Zmax and an MVP. Any of those should work, but I'm not sure I would trust any device (MVP, Zmax, etc) at very low resistance. I'm not even sure if they are capable of reading sub-ohm resistance.
 

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So far my mvp was able to read and fire as low as .9 ohm but I did not want to hurt my mvp so I did not use it long at that resistance. I have read so many peoples post at the different reading we all have got from them and usually they do not read below 1.2 - I never trusted my black box to be honest. It always registered much higher than my mvp and sid. I get consistancy from my pv's and stopped using my.black box because of that. I am going to try changing the batteries and see if that helps. Someone said as long as it is within +/- .2 of each other when testing on 2 or more different devices that it was good enough!? Maybe ill get a multi reader just to verify my devices including the black box are close to accurate.
I use a little black box.

I'm going to admit that I have a multimeter but have never actually checked the accuracy of the black box. I really need to check the resistance of my build with the black box and verify the reading with my multimeter - at least a couple of times to test the integrity of the black box. I have also used a Sigelei Zmax and an MVP. Any of those should work, but I'm not sure I would trust any device (MVP, Zmax, etc) at very low resistance. I'm not even sure if they are capable of reading sub-ohm resistance.
 
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