Dr. Peter Lin did a feature this morning on the Ontario Morning show on CBC Radio. The podcast is was very interesting.
It starts at the 45 minute mark.
It starts at the 45 minute mark.
Well ... I don't completely buy into that reference.E-cigarettes with nicotine have the same addictive potential as smoking cigarettes
Well ... I don't completely buy into that reference.
The implication is a non-smoker starts vaping (nic flavors) and becomes addicted to vaping just like he/she would if picked up the smoking habit.
As I understand it ... E-cigarettes do not deliver the same levels as when tobacco is burned in combustibles. So its not the same thing and the implications is in this interview is that is in fact the same thing.
I know you all know what I'm referring to and I'm not saying it right.
Looking forward to what others have to say.
That's true ...Let's not forget that eCigarettes generally don't contain WTAs(Whole Tobacco Alkaloids) and as a result are not as addictive.
The reason that electronic cigarettes are not as addictive (if true) is supposedly because of the missing MAOIs...That's true ...
However, the discussion was focused on Nicotine Addiction.
Cigarettes are addictive because they contain nicotine
and what he said was e-cigarettes are basically as addictive
as cigarettes ... and I don't think so.
Technically, nicotine is not significantly addictive, as nicotine administered alone does not produce significant reinforcing properties. However, after coadministration with an MAOI, such as those found in tobacco, nicotine produces significant behavioral sensitization, a measure of addiction potential.
Tobacco smoke contains the monoamine oxidase inhibitors harman, norharman, anabasine, anatabine, and nornicotine. These compounds significantly decrease MAO activity in smokers. MAO enzymes break down monoaminergic neurotransmitters such as dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin. It is thought that the powerful interaction between the MAOI's and the nicotine is responsible for most of the addictive properties of tobacco smoking.
I have said those very words myself, Kweb, with the same pacing.
I have also asked, "Can you explain to me why you believe that your concern about my addiction is more important than my concern about not dying of lung cancer?"
Those who mistakenly believe that nicotine causes cancer are, of course, dumfounded by the question.
The world, including we here on the ECF, constantly comparesI disagree. I find ecigs just as addictive and as usual, ask: so what??? I am so tired of this. They don't kill you but they are addictive. Like coffee. BFD. I smoked for 20 years, and others will smoke long after I am dead. It won't go away. If we, with our advanced technology, have come up with a safer alternative, then awesome. Others will join our little club, guys. They will like it. Others who haven't even smoked will join our club. So. What.
Am I making any sense ??
I would have to guess that there are additional chemicals in smoke that contribute to the strong urges to smoke. This might be because those chemicals improve brain function. Many in the e-cig community feel that the minor tobacco alkaloids (the chemicals that FDA called contaminants) have an effect. Star Scientific has brought products to market based on anatabine as "dietary supplements" useful for reducing the urge to smoke and to lower levels of inflammation. Star Scientific - Products
Someone want to glean through this technical stuffJust stumbled across this, while looking for something else:
Frontiers | Animal Models of Nicotine Exposure: Relevance to Second-Hand Smoking, Electronic Cigarette Use, and Compulsive Smoking | Frontiers in Addictive Disorders and Behavioral Dyscontrol
Dr. Jed Rose asked me whether I thought e-cigarettes are less addictive than smoking tobacco.
I responded:
He wrote back that he was hypothesizing that e-cigarettes may be less “addictive” than conventional cigarettes, and wants to conduct research on the effects of the minor alkaloids in tobacco as well as MAO inhibitors in smoke that might have anti-depressant effects.