Dragon Coil (iTEO's) on RM2

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Alexander Mundy

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Dam you guys and this hobby / sport / vaping thing!
Need to finish paperwork and get to bed but an idea popped into my head.
After bee wanted someone to reverse the battery I wondered what would happen if I.....

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Rene41 Nano Dragon / Magic Micro hybrid with nano pointing straight into magic micro.

Had to expand the magneto and put in an 18650 because of dual coil.

Really nice vape!

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Bah! !@#$% service provider dumped my Internet last night...could be down for days....grrrrrrr.

I did a bunch of tests last night and can confirm the results already posted. Polarity has no effect (which is what I expected).

I did notice however that wick placement played a factor. Placing the wick on top of one end or the other (leaving half the coil exposed)created a nice little jet on the opposite end (or was it the other way around? Can't dismember).
 

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I changed the legs of the coil when I did it. Theory proven wrong and the Ducks lost, what a night. Well........then what is causing it to go that direction?

The laws of thermodynamics. Vapor is moving from an area of high pressure to low pressure.

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OK. The high pressure to low pressure chatter got me creative. I took 28 gauge and wrapped it as tight and as close as I could around the tip of a bic pen, following the conical shape and about 5-6 wraps tall. Landed at .8 ohms.
Took my time and carefully heated and compressed the coils together so it was in micro coil fashion with tightly spaced coils. Installed the smaller end pointing down approx. 1/16" off the fill hole of the RM2 and about centered vertically on the airhole. Threaded it with a length of peaches and cream in all its 4strand glory cut it level with the top of the "Volcano Upside Down Coil" and left enough hanging out the bottom to slightly drape the bowl in the floor of the Atty.
Overall the smaller diameter coil is probably about 1/16" I'd and the larger coil on top is maybe 5/32-3/16" I'd.

HOLY COW! I won't be taking any lung hit off this sucker. Will enlarge airhole tomorrow and take pics. Big clouds, super fast to heat up, needs more air at this point, but certainly seems to agree with the theory. Rolls out a monster plume from the top of the wick.



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OK. The high pressure to low pressure chatter got me creative. I took 28 gauge and wrapped it as tight and as close as I could around the tip of a bic pen, following the conical shape and about 5-6 wraps tall. Landed at .8 ohms.
Took my time and carefully heated and compressed the coils together so it was in micro coil fashion with tightly spaced coils. Installed the smaller end pointing down approx. 1/16" off the fill hole of the RM2 and about centered vertically on the airhole. Threaded it with a length of peaches and cream in all its 4strand glory cut it level with the top of the "Volcano Upside Down Coil" and left enough hanging out the bottom to slightly drape the bowl in the floor of the Atty.
Overall the smaller diameter coil is probably about 1/16" I'd and the larger coil on top is maybe 5/32-3/16" I'd.

HOLY COW! I won't be taking any lung hit off this sucker. Will enlarge airhole tomorrow and take pics. Big clouds, super fast to heat up, needs more air at this point, but certainly seems to agree with the theory. Rolls out a monster plume from the top of the wick.



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Interesting...I'd be curious to know what would happen if you wrapped the cotton around the outside.











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That was my initial idea, but to get the coil in proximity to the airhole the cotton bed would seriously block the fill hole and hamper juice return.
This coil is working well but it looks like a sloppy hand wrap on silica that I might have made on day 1 of coil wrapping class. Its tight together and symmetrical and a smooth conical shape but goes against everything I have read and practiced regarding coils being the same size. Its like a wick basket with a tail hanging out the bottom.
It creates quite a bit of surface area in the shape and the wicking is great, the heat coming up the stack of wire pulls the juice in without fail till it runs dry, about four good pulls between squonks.
I can't get my camera to focus close enough to get a decent shot of it, I'm going to borrow an lens from my cousin but he's away till Monday night.

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Somewhere I've seen vapor come out both sides of a dragon coil.

Here's my take on it. Wherever the coil is hottest the air (or vapor) expands (check out the ideal gas law PV=NRT). This pushes in both directions through the coil away from the hot area.

The wick is going to cool the coil so if you put the wick on the right side, say:

...... V here
\||||||/

The left side will get much hotter because the juice on the right keeps the coil cool. I would then expect vapor to flow out the RIGHT side because the expanding air on the left will push it out. (Feel free to test this. I'd be surprised if this was not true.)

Of course no one tries to wick unevenly. So most likely, a preference for coming out one side or the other is just due to coil imperfections (uneven heating), uneven wetting of the wick, or some area of the wick is not contacting the coil as well. There could also be inconsistencies within the wicking material itself... some parts wick better than others.

EDIT: HAHA! The ideal gas law is true in the world of vapers too. A PV is an NRT! Amazing accident.
 
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