My experience mirrors FlamingoTutu's. My nicotine level has kept dropping because it keeps getting too strong. Right now I'm vaping 1 mg/ml or 3 mg/ml. I'm not sure why you view dropping your nicotine as a big win, the nicotine really isn't all that significant from a health point of view unless you're experiencing circulatory issues. I personally would place a much higher value on the interpersonal relationships you might be damaging than your mg/ml.
Dreaded Bad Day & Vaping Low MG
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I cant find anything higher than 36... unless I make it myself... and I have no plans to drop the level 
Self defeating attitude never helps. Never move toward a goal with an attitude that something IS going to go wrong.
Nothing wrong with Being Prepared and there is a Difference.
I DIY and cut back on my own schedule, as I am comfortable.
I have a few e-liquids that are 6mg., many that are 3mg and several that are only 1mg. I even have a couple of bottles of 12mg and 18mg around that will likely never get touched and eventually poured out.
Vape as you Need for the moment. Adjust as you need for the comfort and your confidence. Enjoy what you are doing for yourself and you will make the progress you desire.
Nothing wrong with Being Prepared and there is a Difference.
I DIY and cut back on my own schedule, as I am comfortable.
I have a few e-liquids that are 6mg., many that are 3mg and several that are only 1mg. I even have a couple of bottles of 12mg and 18mg around that will likely never get touched and eventually poured out.
Vape as you Need for the moment. Adjust as you need for the comfort and your confidence. Enjoy what you are doing for yourself and you will make the progress you desire.
The wife looked at you with dissapointment because you vaped 12mg juice?!
Wow...
Maybe tell her that it upset you and you felt like smoking a cigarette...
Wow...
Maybe tell her that it upset you and you felt like smoking a cigarette...
Yes, much better
Don't beat yourself up. We all fall off from different types of wagons. A 6mg to 12 mg "fall" is hardly worth considering. Enjoy the fact and be proud that you are no longer a smoker; revisit lower nic content in the future, when you again think that you're ready. I know that many e-liquid companies that offer custom blends, can include almost unlimited nic content juices. There is one in Canada, I'm sure that there are others, that will allow you to specify 0 mg all the to 24 mg nic content, in 1 mg increments! I don't know if your body can distinguish between an 11 mg and 12 mg mix, but it might be worth considering dropping down in that manner. Alternatively, and I've done this, take a pre-mixed 6 mg juice and mix it with a 12 mg juice (same company, same flavour, same quantity, same PG/VG ratio) and you end up with a 9 mg solution. The drop from 12 to 9 mg isn't as great as 12 to 6.
Good luck,
Peter
crxess is right ... if you look for a problem chances are you will find one! I started at 18 dropped to 12 very quickly and stayed right here but then I am "almost" at a year of vaping (how time flies!). And I think 12 is getting a little bit strong for me (just started feeling like this in the last week or so) so I plan a step down to 9 with the next batch of juice I whip up. I am more happy about not picking up a cig at all rather than that I haven't dropped my nic level at all.... yet! I smoked for over 30 years and today I feel awesome.
Like some others I am waiting to see what my body is trying to tell me. And it's telling me Sugar Cookie!
Like some others I am waiting to see what my body is trying to tell me. And it's telling me Sugar Cookie!
Don't feel bad. I started at 24, jumped to 36 for a month, then back to 24 for over two years. I'm still at 18. I had dropped to 12 at one time but it just would not cut it.
I'm thinking that one problem some might have with stepping-down on nicotine is trying to step-down too far, too fast. I have no plans to go lower or stop using nicotine, but I definitely want to get off the WTA, it's so dang expensive. Before the end of the year, I was using 25mg WTA as 10% of my ejuice; starting at the first of this year, I started mixing it as only 9% of the ejuice; next month, I'll go to 8%, and continue to step it down by 1 percentage point each month, until I'm either WTA-free, or I experience cravings; if I get cravings, I'll bump it back up 1 point, and then carry on the next month by stepping down one *half* a percentage point.
The brain wants what it wants, and no matter how much your MIND wants to get free of nicotine, or WTA or whatever, that cuts no ice with the brain. You either have to force it, which means enduring some discomfort, as your brain tries to get you to give it what it needs, or it requires stealth -- doing it so extremely slowly that the brain doesn't really notice. As much as I'd love to stop buying WTA RIGHT NOW, I know that my brain will never go along with that peacefully, and it will make me miserable (as well as everyone around me!) if I try it. So I'm opting for the slow, stealthy reduction. Maybe instead of trying to go from 12mg to 6mg, or even 9mg, try for 10mg, and see if you can be comfy at that level. If so, then next time, try 8mg. Going more slowly that way will condition the brain to accept a lower level without so much discomfort.
Andria
The brain wants what it wants, and no matter how much your MIND wants to get free of nicotine, or WTA or whatever, that cuts no ice with the brain. You either have to force it, which means enduring some discomfort, as your brain tries to get you to give it what it needs, or it requires stealth -- doing it so extremely slowly that the brain doesn't really notice. As much as I'd love to stop buying WTA RIGHT NOW, I know that my brain will never go along with that peacefully, and it will make me miserable (as well as everyone around me!) if I try it. So I'm opting for the slow, stealthy reduction. Maybe instead of trying to go from 12mg to 6mg, or even 9mg, try for 10mg, and see if you can be comfy at that level. If so, then next time, try 8mg. Going more slowly that way will condition the brain to accept a lower level without so much discomfort.
Andria
PUNCH THAT JUDGEMENTAL ***** IN...
HOLD ON. I NEED A HIT...
Alright. I feel better now.
What i was saying; that lovely woman obviously cares about you and wants what's best for you. I'm sure she'll bare with you through these trying times.
Hang in there.
Sent from my device.
Not me. I love my husband just as he is, hairy ears and farts and all.
Though I do wish there was an anti-stupid pill -- I'd give him one daily, as I take my own! Andria
You need to explain to your wife that nicotine isn't the problem, it was everything that came with it while smoking that was the problem. Upping your nic is like drinking an espresso as opposed to a regular cup of coffee. Sometimes you just need a bit more.
Same here, after some time it felt too strong, I started at 18mg (which felt weak at the time I switched from tobacco) and went down 15 to 12 now at 8mg and I'm pretty close to going to 6mg. I believe the key is to go down in small increments.
+1 here... Have a goal, but don't set a goal, quitting nicotine is stressful enough. Take your time.
nope... I too have a "Break glass in case of an emergency" juice nearby... it keeps me from hurting people...
^^^well put!^^^
I'm gonna add that one to my arsenal!
I listened to all the good advice here and then didn't take it. Went down from 18 to 12 on my last order without a problem. So then I ordered a mixture of 6 and 12. Left it really late to make the order and almost ran out. Down to the last quarter bottle of 12, so I mixed it with an equal amount of 0mg someone had sent me as a free sample. So for 3 days I was using 6mg. I wasn't really craving a cig, just getting impatient and jittery and nervous all the time. Yesterday I dropped by the local shop and picked up a bottle of 18. It straightened me out right from the first drag. My order has arrived now. I'm going to stay off the 6mg until my first order of nicotine arrives on Saturday.
The lesson I learned was to not take cutting down on the nic lightly. And also to order in good time. Now I've got a load of juice that really needs to sit for a while and nothing in reserve. I need to get some of those anti-stupid pills Andria was talking about.
The lesson I learned was to not take cutting down on the nic lightly. And also to order in good time. Now I've got a load of juice that really needs to sit for a while and nothing in reserve. I need to get some of those anti-stupid pills Andria was talking about.
I guess one reason I have no ambitions to reduce nicotine is that "impatient and jittery and nervous" describes me on a GOOD day -- especially the impatient and jittery parts. Well ok, maybe just the "impatient" part. If I got any worse, my husband would probably strangle me, or somebody would anyway.
For me, nic withdrawal is more like unfocussed and fuzzy-brained to the point where I'm a hazard to myself in my own kitchen, or take 3 hrs to cook a simple meal; forget about driving, I might not be able to find the gas OR brake! No thanks! I'll stick with my 10-12mg forever if need be. But the WTA needs to go... verrrrry slowly.
Andria
For me, nic withdrawal is more like unfocussed and fuzzy-brained to the point where I'm a hazard to myself in my own kitchen, or take 3 hrs to cook a simple meal; forget about driving, I might not be able to find the gas OR brake! No thanks! I'll stick with my 10-12mg forever if need be. But the WTA needs to go... verrrrry slowly.
Andria
I guess one reason I have no ambitions to reduce nicotine is that "impatient and jittery and nervous" describes me on a GOOD day -- especially the impatient and jittery parts. Well ok, maybe just the "impatient" part. If I got any worse, my husband would probably strangle me, or somebody would anyway.
For me, nic withdrawal is more like unfocussed and fuzzy-brained to the point where I'm a hazard to myself in my own kitchen, or take 3 hrs to cook a simple meal; forget about driving, I might not be able to find the gas OR brake! No thanks! I'll stick with my 10-12mg forever if need be. But the WTA needs to go... verrrrry slowly.
Andria
I think you hit the nail on the head there. I don't even know why I was trying to cut down on the nic. Plus Alzheimer's has been pretty widespread in my family and nicotine might be a good thing. I'm getting to that age.
I hope you're well stocked up on the WTA Andria. That might look like low hanging fruit to the FDA.
When I'm at work I'm on a little kanger with 12mg. When at home I drip and it's mainly zero nic. Sporadically I'll drip cereal killer with 4mg of nic but then go back to zero so I have absolutely zero regrets.
Don't feel bad bro it's still WAY better than smoking cancer sticks
Don't feel bad bro it's still WAY better than smoking cancer sticks
I agree, and one of the most important reasons I'm interested in getting off the WTA, because I just don't know what the FDA is going to do. Not too concerned at the moment, since it takes the feds half a year to decide that they need to think about making committee to make a decision.
But before the year is out, I'd really like to be vaping plain nicotine. Then, if they go completely bananas about vaping, I could, if necessary, get my nicotine from patches while I vape 0mg -- the vaping stays, whether it's got nic in it or not, because the patch without it does nothing.Andria
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