Dripping - What To Start With?

[catalinaflyer]

that one has a higher learning curve, but once you've dialed in the perfect setup for it, people fall in love

like how the connected the juice well in the v2. just makes sense

And that's exactly how I wound up with the V1, they got V2's in stock and like the dreaded outdated smart phone no one would even look at the V1 any more. About 8 drops is all it will hold and at 50 watts and that's good for only 2 to 3 lung hits. Requires lots of dripping but when sitting around waiting (as I do for hours to days on end at my job) it's my go to. Or if I want to try another juice, just a couple of draws and the old flavor is gone.

 

[catalinaflyer]

I think we can all agree, valkyrie trumps all. Super easy to build on, amazing cloud/flavor, and just looks sexy.

No offense but I have yet to own or use a Genesis style atomizer that I would give a second chance. Some people love them, some people will have nothing but a Genesis style and other's like myself, well I'm not a Genesis person.

 

[vapero]

At a basic level, you will need.
1) a multimeter, or ohm reader.
2) an rda, you can get some cheap ones off fasttech to try it out. No point in buying a +50$ rda if your not sure to if youll enjoy it.
3) wire, 26 or 28g kanthal would be a good starting point. I personally like lightningvapes can get 100ft for around 6$ (lasts me atleast 2 months)
4) wicking material. Cotton is cheap and easy to work with.
5) patience. Your first few coils won't be perfect, we've all been there so don't worry, practice makes prefect.
6) optionally, a coil jig will help a lot in getting more precise coils, rather then using a drill bit, screwdriver, other objects.
7) a device that can handle the ohms you wish to run at, if you are a first time rebuilder id suggest sticking above .7 ohms first few builds until you are familiar with it.
In conclusion, just be sure to check your builds before using as to ensure no shorts are present.

Some b&ms will build coils for you but that option is to much hassle imo, especially if your coil junks out at night. Best bet would be rebuilding if your going to stick with dripping or get into RTAS.

this is great advice

I would add:
if you don't want to start rebuilding the bridgeless drippers that look like a carto are ok but I personally didn like them, too much hassle and leakage

you could get a small rebuildable dripper and just aim your resistance at 1.5-1.7 for your egos
igo-s

 

[KurrptSenate]

Valkyrie is a hybrid by vicious ant if im not mistaken.

if you're into the look, that's cool. more power to you. as far as the actual RDA that's built in, it's pretty basic. not saying you can't get a good vape off of it, but it wouldn't be considered close to the top in any category

 

[VHRB2014]

I honestly don't mean to be offensive, but that article is painfully old. If you could even still buy the items listed in it I'd be surprised.

EDIT: I see these items are still available for sale, but I don't think they amount to anything near what people consider dripping any more.

Bud, allot of people, myself included, cut their dripping teeth with a bridge-less atty or cart. Give them a break. Dripping is dripping. I could drip onto a hot tin plate,,,, its still dripping.

 

[VHRB2014]

this is great advice

I would add:
if you don't want to start rebuilding the bridgeless drippers that look like a carto are ok but I personally didn like them, too much hassle and leakage

you could get a small rebuildable dripper and just aim your resistance at 1.5-1.7 for your egos
igo-s

Ha, hA. I just put mine together last week. Its green. ego 450-c and a squid. Very good, not great, but very good!

Gotta get a pic.

 

[BoomerFZ1]

I'm shocked by all the love for the Magma, when the ONLY area it beats the Mutation X in is the depth of the juice well, and is inferior in just about every other way.

Oddly enough I had the Mutation in my hand when I got my original RDA but the shop owner talked me into a Mephisto...whoops. And I don't have a Mutation but the design looks completely different than the Magma. And the deep juice well isn't even why I like it...terrific flavor and you can get a nice, tight draw.

 

[Tmg666]

Valkyrie is a hybrid by vicious ant if im not mistaken.

if you're into the look, that's cool. more power to you. as far as the actual RDA that's built in, it's pretty basic. not saying you can't get a good vape off of it, but it wouldn't be considered close to the top in any category

Yeah, but ehpros clone is almost identical, its a great device for new drippers as its easy to build/maintain. But as vaping is 100% user preference each individual has to find what they like best . Otoh, check out this beast i seen a local b&m post

 

[BoomerFZ1]

Yeah, but ehpros clone is almost identical, its a great device for new drippers as its easy to build/maintain. But as vaping is 100% user preference each individual has to find what they like best . Otoh, check out this beast i seen a local b&m post View attachment 404478

Thing looks like it has a mouthpiece from a scuba tank. I'm sure someone had a gas mask out there attached to an RDA. LOL

 

[Feignix]

Ok, looks like you have a lot of good advice so far, if you're looking for a "middle of the road" solution, and some advice that's just, let's say....meh....background chatter. I see you're in Canada, so if shipping and customs isn't an issue I suggest you go to Kidney Puncher online and take a look at their kits. They have some put together for the customer/vaper in your situation, looking for an all in one dripping experience at the level YOU feel comfortable with and are ready for. Even though I've been away and some of the names have changed I see there's still the ones who want to tell you, "You need to do this, or have to do this....." or another. Do what YOU'RE ready and comfortable with and what's safe. Given the gear you have you can easily and quickly experiment with dripping, which on the bridgeless attys you've already been shown in this thread, is how I was finally able to set down the smokes. For me, it was as close to hitting a "real cigarette" as it got, while still feeling like I was smoking. It was also very easy to quickly tell if I liked a flavor, but do keep in mind that a flavor profile can change quite a bit if you drip it vs. "tank it" or rather put it in a tank, clearomizer, glassomizer, rba, etc. and even the same flavor can vary from tank to tank, rda to rda as is evidenced in this thread.

After successfully getting off the smokes I pretty quickly went to RDA's, rebuildable dripping atomizers and loved it, billowing clouds of vapor and fantastic flavors on the right RDA and still love it at times. I was finally able to better taste my juices, and even had to get rid of a lot of crappy juices as it became evident that they were as I was able to experience more of the flavor profile in a concentrated way. Not only that but most vapers palates change and evolve the longer it is they go from without smoking and the more they vape. You may even find yourself with a bout of "vaper's tongue" here and there but I digress.

Now I'm on the newer generation of "plug and play" tanks, namely the Aspire Atlantis and the Kanger Subtank. You mentioned you had the Aspire 1000 mah battery, so I mention this because I've found these newer tanks are able to bring out the flavor of the juices MUCH better than the older generations of tanks like the Kanger Aerotanks and the Aspire Nautilus. With the stock coils you can prime, fill and are vaping happily in a matter of minutes, and I've found they are pretty darn close to the "dripping" experience in both flavor and vapor production with a whole lot more convenience built in! With the Kanger Subtank you can even use the stock coil heads, or you can use the rebuildable heads when and if you ever get comfortable rebuilding which most do, and you have a beautiful, solid and versatile tank to boot! I have both and I couldn't be happier! If you want something smaller, there is also the Joytech E-grip, a beautiful, smaller, hand held box mod, some say is the ultimate vape! It too has the options of stock coils, to use with it's proprietary built in tank, while actually taking it and another brands heads, AND it has a rebuildable deck kit available as well, should you desire a smaller route, lower wattage vape, while still putting out excellent vapor and flavor!

A word to the wise though, stay small with the flavors and try a variety, check out reviews and get recommendations on juices, I wish I had as I could have had a lot more nicer gear had I not wasted it on juice I took a few drips of, only never to pick it up again! Trade juices you don't like and maybe even consider joining a juice box subscription to be exposed to more flavors and to find your "all day vape/adv". Out of a year of vaping and hundreds of juices, it comes down to that I only care to vape TWO flavors while I still try out new ones all the time! Best of luck to you and hope you are able to get something out of my expriences. In the vape game, a lot of it comes down to trial and error as you will learn, as so many things are subjective in this habit/hobby!

 

[Tmg666]

Thing looks like it has a mouthpiece from a scuba tank. I'm sure someone had a gas mask out there attached to an RDA. LOL

It holds 2 rdas the vacuum like thing is a driptip i think for max clouds lool

 

[HitShane]

Thanks to all who responded. I have a bit more information now and a direction to start with.

Peter

I finally made my first Coil on my First RDA!!! Success!!!











28 Gauge wire and 7 wraps came out to 1.6 Ohm. First try! It took me literally 10 minutes from the time I opened up my mail today to the finished product



This is still my go to setup, but the RDA will be my at home setup and works great with "other" oils I am told



101Vape RDA $9.99
Big 28.5mm 101 Vape Adjustable Airflow Atomizer - 101 Vape

500' Rayon cotton $10 and 100' 28 Gauge Kanthal wire $5...

Happy Vapes!!!

 

[tj99959]

I first started dripping long before RDAs & sub ohm vaping even existed with a little eGo battery & a 510 atomizer. So trust me, learning about dry hits, flooding, air management, and even popping a coil or two were as much of the game then as they are now.

While I have, and have used all of the crazy high wattage/low resistance stuff, my ADV (A7) vapes very much like that old 510 atty did with a 2 ohm coil on a mechanical.

 

[mudram99]

I finally made my first Coil on my First RDA!!! Success!!!











28 Gauge wire and 7 wraps came out to 1.6 Ohm. First try! It took me literally 10 minutes from the time I opened up my mail today to the finished product



This is still my go to setup, but the RDA will be my at home setup and works great with "other" oils I am told



101Vape RDA $9.99
Big 28.5mm 101 Vape Adjustable Airflow Atomizer - 101 Vape

500' Rayon cotton $10 and 100' 28 Gauge Kanthal wire $5...

Happy Vapes!!!

Well you're a gonner now! Congrats on a great job first time. Vape on

 

[HitShane]

^^ I am for sure!!!

 

[Stinkytofus]

get an sigelei 150w, your istick is dwarfed by the rda lol

i recommend the clt infinite line, v1, v2 plus, and version 3 coming out soon

 

[wesson]

Ok, looks like you have a lot of good advice so far, if you're looking for a "middle of the road" solution, and some advice that's just, let's say....meh....background chatter. I see you're in Canada, so if shipping and customs isn't an issue I suggest you go to Kidney Puncher online and take a look at their kits... Do what YOU'RE ready and comfortable with and what's safe. Given the gear you have you can easily and quickly experiment with dripping, which on the bridgeless attys you've already been shown in this thread, is how I was finally able to set down the smokes.

...After successfully getting off the smokes I pretty quickly went to RDA's, rebuildable dripping atomizers and loved it, billowing clouds of vapor and fantastic flavors on the right RDA and still love it at times. I was finally able to better taste my juices, and even had to get rid of a lot of crappy juices as it became evident that they were as I was able to experience more of the flavor profile in a concentrated way. Not only that but most vapers palates change and evolve the longer it is they go from without smoking and the more they vape...

...You mentioned you had the Aspire 1000 mah battery, so I mention this because I've found these newer tanks are able to bring out the flavor of the juices MUCH better than the older generations of tanks like the Kanger Aerotanks and the Aspire Nautilus...

Thank you all. A lot of great advice here on ECF and the time you've taken to respond is much appreciated. When you've been doing something, anything, for a while, people tend to forget what its like to be "new" or "green." I may very well get into RDAs. I'm the type of person that tends to jump into something new with both feet and get completely involved. Plus, I do like the technology and gadgetry that goes with vaping. Its really interesting and, the biggest plus, it got me off the cigarettes; I'm super pleased about that! I guess what I'm looking for is the dripping experience at a basic level. I want to try it without getting into mods and then, if I like the experience (which I suspect I will), go for bigger and better equipment. Because I already have the Aspire VV device, I need a drip head that I can attach to it. A head that will work with lower capacity batts. I'm not really into San Francisco type fog when vaping, a good amount of vapor similar to smoke when smoking, is good for me. Right now, its all about the taste of the vapor and a good throat hit with nicotine content .

I have no issues with mail order from the U.S. So far Canadian Border Services is not stopping vape equipment from crossing the border, only e-liquid containing nic, and then only if they "catch" the shipment. I'll have a look at some of the sites mentioned and decide on a system. Again, thank you. You guys are great!

Peter

 

[The Cloud Minder]

Other than they are both RDA's and the name begins with "M" there's ZERO in common between the two so therefore people who love the Magma may care less about a Mutation X. I happen to love my Origen V1 but have no desire for either of the other two. Just because your a fan of the Mutation X doesn't mean thats the final word in RDA's, it's all about choices.

You seem to have missed the point about what I was saying about the MX, It is ideally suited for the beginner due to the easy build deck and wide range of configurable airflow.

Additional unrelated note: It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who don't realize that the only reason they think they are getting a great vaping flavor from the magma, is all that juice sitting in the well. Take a pull on the thing without firing it and you'll see the flavor comes from the unvaporized juice sitting there.
Why bother, just get a thimble and snort juice vapor if that's your thing.

 

[KurrptSenate]

You seem to have missed the point about what I was saying about the MX, It is ideally suited for the beginner due to the easy build deck and wide range of configurable airflow.

Additional unrelated note: It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who don't realize that the only reason they think they are getting a great vaping flavor from the magma, is all that juice sitting in the well. Take a pull on the thing without firing it and you'll see the flavor comes from the unvaporized juice sitting there.
Why bother, just get a thimble and snort juice vapor if that's your thing.

If you think that is why the magma is held in high regard for flavor, you're seriously mistaken. the flavor comes only from the vaporized e juice. the reason that device has a ton of flavor is due to the fact that it has bottom fed air flow, like a kayfun, and the domed top cap. the chamber is also reduced which helps a ton

 

[catalinaflyer]

You seem to have missed the point about what I was saying about the MX, It is ideally suited for the beginner due to the easy build deck and wide range of configurable airflow.

Additional unrelated note: It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who don't realize that the only reason they think they are getting a great vaping flavor from the magma, is all that juice sitting in the well. Take a pull on the thing without firing it and you'll see the flavor comes from the unvaporized juice sitting there.
Why bother, just get a thimble and snort juice vapor if that's your thing.

I won't argue that in your opinion (and maybe that of many others) that the MX is better suited for a beginner. What I said was that just because one person feels that A is superior to B, C, D, E......... that is not the final word in atomizers. If that were the case there would be only one on the market but sadly, there's one......thousand + on the market. If people were only buying A then the manufactures wouldn't be making the rest. My idea of perfect flavor and vapor is not the same as yours or anyone else's.

As for the flavor coming from the juice in the well, well hum, um, not sure what is in your juice that is off-gassing and providing flavor without anything other than sitting there but I can barely smell my juice even poured out on a platter let alone "taste" it. Confine it to a juice well and personally I can't tell which juice it is till I take a pull with the button pushed. I just tried my Origen which is loaded with Salted Caramel, my KST with Spiced Cider and my Atlantis with Red Bull, nope, didn't taste anything, none, nill, nada. In fact I couldn't even smell them even though I can smell the stinch of cigarette smoke on the clothing of the person in the room next to mine. Sorry but for me the theory of flavor coming from the juice sitting in the well is not working.