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Not sure I would compare caffeine with nicotine though. I can't debate it, nor do I want to, but I'd say nicotine is much more addictive. IMHO. Although nicotine is probably just as harmless as caffeine when by itself and ya dont have the thousands of other chemicals we were inhaling with analogs stilI so much more addictive.

Just as harmless, and quite possibly just as addictive...
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Technically, nicotine is not significantly addictive, as nicotine administered alone does not produce significant reinforcing properties. However, after coadministration with an MAOI, such as those found in tobacco, nicotine produces significant behavioral sensitization, a measure of addiction potential.
tobacco smoke contains the monoamine oxidase inhibitors harman, norharman, anabasine, anatabine, and nornicotine. These compounds significantly decrease MAO activity in smokers. MAO enzymes break down monoaminergic neurotransmitters such as dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin. It is thought that the powerful interaction between the MAOI's and the nicotine is responsible for most of the addictive properties of tobacco smoking.


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Think about it. If it was that easy why would we be vaping at all. Unless ya use 0mg and just like the flavors of course. Again, just my opinion.
Think about this though...

It is a very common experience for vapers to find their need for nicotine diminishes over time.
Or even disappears completely.

And yet they continue to vape, even with zero nicotine.

It is not unusual for people to drop the nicotine altogether.
But it is rare that a zero nicotine vaper will stop vaping altogether.

For many people there is MUCH more to smoking than just nicotine.
Otherwise the useless NRT products might actually work.
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Just as harmless, and quite possibly just as addictive...
Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia






Think about this though...

It is a very common experience for vapers to find their need for nicotine diminishes over time.
Or even disappears completely.

And yet they continue to vape, even with zero nicotine.

It is not unusual for people to drop the nicotine altogether.
But it is rare that a zero nicotine vaper will stop vaping altogether.

For many people there is MUCH more to smoking than just nicotine.
Otherwise the useless NRT products might actually work.
:)

Totally agree. Smoking is a multi-facet addiction.


I also agree with Robin. I think Stephen did well. I have to admit. I kinda liked "Deuces Wild". Shhh...
 
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I'm conflicted about the commercials, personally. One on hand, it's good to raise awareness and make vaping more mainstream and available to consumers. BUT - there is a big risk, in my opinion, of people perceiving it as being marketed to kids or to people who dont currently smoke.

The message can't be (even implied) that "e cigs are a harmless alternative to smoking" - that will get them banned quick.
 

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o_O That commercial looks like it was made in the 80s...

Anyway, I just can't help but think they're pushing the luck of every e-cig user with that commercial. The entire thing looks like they're advertising a real cig(the ecig and the case) and considering how some officials aren't seeing the difference between analogs and ecigs, it seems like they're poking the sleeping tiger saying "see? it doesn't burn"
At least with the Blu commercials it looks like they're at least trying to show there's a difference between analogs and ecigs

Don't get me wrong, commercials are good. Getting people off of analogs is good. I just feel the people making the commercials need to think before they broadcast. The commercial linked doesn't look/sound like they're advertising an alternative to cigs, it looks/sounds like they're advertising a fancier/special cigarette
 

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I'm conflicted about the commercials, personally. One on hand, it's good to raise awareness and make vaping more mainstream and available to consumers. BUT - there is a big risk, in my opinion, of people perceiving it as being marketed to kids or to people who dont currently smoke.

The message can't be (even implied) that "e cigs are a harmless alternative to smoking" - that will get them banned quick.
First of all, they can't be banned here in the United States, by rule of the Federal Court...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ads-everything-relevant-njoy-vs-fda-case.html

But soon the FDA may issue "deeming" regulations that have the potential to decimate the industry...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...e-products-eliminate-many-most-companies.html

It just depends on how they decide to act, which hopefully isn't how the EU Tobacco Control Directive is going...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...d-e-cigarettes-more-than-4mg-ml-nicotine.html

But in the end, those that want to eliminate electronic cigarettes don't need these kinds of commercials to sell the "for the children" argument.
They are already making the argument, constantly, and with every chance they get.

They don't need evidence because they just make it up as they go, which is what they have always done and will always do.

In my opinion, the best way to short-circuit their plan of attack is to grow our numbers, as fast as possible.
And I think these kinds of commercials are really going to help in that respect.
 

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Yeah, other than this commercial, I've never seen him in anything.

Are you guys kiddin? Comon now. Who hasn't seen Blade? Or Duces Wild? Ha.

I think we're dating our selves with Grieco. Not sure the younger generation knows who the heck he is. Do they even broadcast 21 Jump Street repeats? Or his show "Grieco"?
 
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Are you guys kiddin? Comon now. Who hasn't seen Blade? Or Duces Wild? Ha.

I think we're dating our selves with Grieco. Not sure the younger generation knows who the heck he is. Do they even broadcast 21 Jump Street repeats? Or his show "Grieco"?
I've never seen Blade.

I don't even know what Deuces Wild is.
 

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What about Mickey Rourke or Andrew Dice Clay? Lol

Yeah. That's all we need is Mickey Rourke advertising ecigs. Everyone will think they'll end up looking like Rocky Dennis from the movie MASK if they start vaping.

And Clay, well Clay is Clay but again, do the younger generation even know who he is?
 

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Looks like yall have gone off on a tangent... but I was jus going to chime in that I saw a commercial for "Starfire cigs" yesterday afternoon. I was excited until they started in on "For a low monthly price of blah blah blah, we will send you prefilled cartridges of your flavor choice! Each one last as long as 1.5 packs of cigarettes!"
 

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Looks like yall have gone off on a tangent... but I was jus going to chime in that I saw a commercial for "Starfire cigs" yesterday afternoon. I was excited until they started in on "For a low monthly price of blah blah blah, we will send you prefilled cartridges of your flavor choice! Each one last as long as 1.5 packs of cigarettes!"

Well there's another negative to the whole commercial thing. All the sucky vendors are putting them out. Blu? Really? Has anyone ever actually recommended Blu to someone? That's a sure black eye to the vaping community. Vision or SmokTech need to put one out there. Hell, even Provape.
 

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But soon the FDA may issue "deeming" regulations that have the potential to decimate the industry...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...e-products-eliminate-many-most-companies.html


But in the end, those that want to eliminate electronic cigarettes don't need these kinds of commercials to sell the "for the children" argument.
They are already making the argument, constantly, and with every chance they get.

They don't need evidence because they just make it up as they go, which is what they have always done and will always do.

In my opinion, the best way to short-circuit their plan of attack is to grow our numbers, as fast as possible.
And I think these kinds of commercials are really going to help in that respect.


I have to say, I think the commercials are a great direction to go in. Smokers need to know there is a better option for them. This may help our vaping population grow. When I first started reading this forum, I thought those talking about hoarding Nicotine supplies were crazy. I have to admit, it doesnt sound like a bad idea lately. And how dare the FDA try to ban or over-regulate e cigs. We do need to take our freedom back as stated in the Blu Commercial. If they want to over-regulate or ban anything let it be combustable tobacco products. Their Logic doesn't come close to making any sense.
 
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