Dr. Siegel addresses the issue today in his blog. The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary
E-cig industry is eagerly awaiting oral argument Thursday before the U.S. Court of Appeals
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I don't know about anyone else, but Google popped up with a warning on Dr. Siegel's blog this morning. Since I've been there many times I just clicked through. My anti-malware and anti-virus are still happily quiet. Makes me wonder if the Doc stuck a nerve with someone today.
Do people really think that those letters to those companies from the FDA were fair and impartial?
Consider herbal suppliments, diet pills and energy drinks. All things which we put into our bodies, yet the FDA doesn't require them to meet pharmaceutical drug treatment production standards. Unless those products start to get complaints of adverse reactions, they have very minimal standards to meet.
5 Hour Energy contains caffeine - a known psychoactive stimulant also used in insecticide, as a treatment for apnea and irregular heartbeat in premature newborns, as an additive to make pain killers work better for headaches and who knows what else.
Yet anything containing caffeine isn't required to meet any higher standards than a can of Spaghetti-O's.
Since e-liquid is also made from GRAS ingredients, it should be held to the same standards as caffeine, not the same standards required for chemotheraphy drugs.
The letters issued by the FDA to those 5 companies for violations were based on violations of pharmaceutical standards, even though e-cigarettes do not treat or mitigate any disease (smoking isn't a disease, nicotine addiction is and a product which encourages continued nicotine use obviously isn't treating the addiction.)
If the FDA would regulate these like any other non-pharmaceutical consumable, they would only need to:
- Ensure e-cigarette merchants don't advertise that the product treats nicotine addiction (not smoking reduction/cessation) and go after only those who do
- Monitor adverse reaction complaints and go after the specific companies with complaints, not the whole industry, as they do with the food industry
- Ensure registered production labs & the manufacturing process are sanitary (with occasional inspections)
- Ensure that all ingredients are listed on the label and nicotine levels are accurate
- Ensure that there are no contaminates or unlisted ingredients (with occational, random testing)
- Ensure that nicotine health warnings are included on/in with packaging
- Require child-resistant packaging be available for those who desire it
All of the other requirements as needed by pharmaceutical products would be overkill and completely unnecessary. The only reason the FDA would require e-cigafrettes to meet these excessive (for the product type) regulation standards is because they know they CAN'T, mainly because e-cigarettes would very unlikely be able to prove themselves a nicotine addiction treatment for the majority of users.
Consider herbal suppliments, diet pills and energy drinks. All things which we put into our bodies, yet the FDA doesn't require them to meet pharmaceutical drug treatment production standards. Unless those products start to get complaints of adverse reactions, they have very minimal standards to meet.
5 Hour Energy contains caffeine - a known psychoactive stimulant also used in insecticide, as a treatment for apnea and irregular heartbeat in premature newborns, as an additive to make pain killers work better for headaches and who knows what else.
Yet anything containing caffeine isn't required to meet any higher standards than a can of Spaghetti-O's.
Since e-liquid is also made from GRAS ingredients, it should be held to the same standards as caffeine, not the same standards required for chemotheraphy drugs.
The letters issued by the FDA to those 5 companies for violations were based on violations of pharmaceutical standards, even though e-cigarettes do not treat or mitigate any disease (smoking isn't a disease, nicotine addiction is and a product which encourages continued nicotine use obviously isn't treating the addiction.)
If the FDA would regulate these like any other non-pharmaceutical consumable, they would only need to:
- Ensure e-cigarette merchants don't advertise that the product treats nicotine addiction (not smoking reduction/cessation) and go after only those who do
- Monitor adverse reaction complaints and go after the specific companies with complaints, not the whole industry, as they do with the food industry
- Ensure registered production labs & the manufacturing process are sanitary (with occasional inspections)
- Ensure that all ingredients are listed on the label and nicotine levels are accurate
- Ensure that there are no contaminates or unlisted ingredients (with occational, random testing)
- Ensure that nicotine health warnings are included on/in with packaging
- Require child-resistant packaging be available for those who desire it
All of the other requirements as needed by pharmaceutical products would be overkill and completely unnecessary. The only reason the FDA would require e-cigafrettes to meet these excessive (for the product type) regulation standards is because they know they CAN'T, mainly because e-cigarettes would very unlikely be able to prove themselves a nicotine addiction treatment for the majority of users.
Which is why you will never see Banzhaf in any legitimate news release. Even the mainstream media considers him too bat..... insane.
Geeze Parallex2, I thought a bug landed on my monitor and I went to squash it. LOL Cute avatar.
Now back to topic.
Once they figure out a way to tax them, you betcha they will be expensive.
Now back to topic.
Once they figure out a way to tax them, you betcha they will be expensive.
The FDA is directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of American smokers each year due to their disinformation, misinformation and outright lies concerning the reduced harm risks of smokeless alternatives vs. cigarette smoking. Too bad we can't make them personally accountable for all those deaths over the past few decades of withholding the truth from the American public.
Tobaccoharmreduction.org tweeted:
Well, if he can quote himself, I can quote myself; but I won't bother with a 3rd-person attribute.
The Truth About Nicotine: FDA Can’t Handle the Truth
Well, if he can quote himself, I can quote myself; but I won't bother with a 3rd-person attribute.
The Truth About Nicotine: FDA Can’t Handle the Truth
The truth is we in the industry have to begin to "try" to be compliant. We all are going to have to list the ingredients in each flavor, have a warning label, and put the expiration on the label too. I am not sure that this will be enough for the FDA. In fact, I will bet that it won't. But we can show that we are trying by putting the required info on the labels. It's funny how our Government can allow one industry to "kill" 450,000 Americans each year with their product, then condem an industry that the Government cannot show one death! Facism at it's best! It's all about the money! We intend to post ingredients & warnings by October. But I seriously doubt that the FDA will be happy with anything we do, except close our doors and go home like the whipped little dogs they expect us to be. Good luck with that!
The arguments have been made. No decision yet, but you can read an account of the proceedings here; http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-news/92186-se-njoy-vs-fda-discussion-20.html#post1929129
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