e-cigs more harmful than good?

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b00gym4n

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..trick question.

I've been purchasing from Heaven-Gifts.com and started up with the 18mg of 10ml bottles with the Joyetech 510. After a week of use I switched to my 24mg 30ml bottles. At first I would vap just like how I would smoke, every hour or so than as I got more comfortable vaping in my room while surfing the net or doing every day chores I now vap constantly. While I'm on the can, watching tv, surfing the web, shopping, etc...

And yes every time i smoke an analog for the first time in weeks/days it does taste and smell like it first did when i was a kid, like crap. I didnt care cause i needed a nicotine fix. I smoked a red 100 and yes it did some what help, but i did not get that comfortable breezy sensation i got with e-juice. So i added a few drops of e-juice on the paper part of the analog and allowed it to drip down and around my analog. YES it does burn perfectly and does not go out what so ever. Now that you guys are telling me how dangerous it is to burn it on a cig i probably will stop, but i am not lying when i say it is not satisfy my cravings. I woke up about an hour ago and smoked a 100 til about a half inch from the filter. I still felt clouded and unable to think properly which is common for me when i do not smoke. So i added a small drop to the last of my cig and WOW. I suddenly woke up and felt at ease (normal). I have been smoking analogs since i was 13, heavy when i was 15 and now i'm 23. Like most of you i switched to e-cigs because of the health problems. I hated the thought of sacrificing my life for some nicotine, untill i found out about the e-cig. I swear to God, i prefer vap over e-cigs (nicotine feeling wise).

Thank you for those who actually gave me some advice, I will no longer add e-juice to my analogs. Even though I will be highly tempted to do so. I'm waiting for 2 starter kits from HG, extra spare parts and (5) 30ml 24mg bottles of e-juice. I used the cheapest shipping which I now regret.

I am not lying when I said I am more addicted to nicotine than ever, cause realistically I am. Maybe it's a mental thing, but to be honest im positive its more of a physical thing. I do have a problem and did not expect this to happen from something like nicotine, i've been through way worse. Thanks again.
 

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If you could teach me how to dilute my e-juice that would be great. Preferably the safest way possible. I've read a lot of bad things about Propylene Glycol AKA PG. Thanks.


If you're serious about your explination and deluting, and don't like PG (which I think is safe) use vegetable glycerin.
 

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You really aren't helping to negate the impression that you aren't 'for real' with a statement like that!

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I don't really care what you think, first thing i did was google propylene glycol dangers and found a numerous amount of articles. Which in turn worried me a bit. Anyone with some real positive feedback would be nice.
 

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I'm a newb myself. I'm sure that there are trolls who regularly visit sites like this in an effort to screw with other peoples enjoyment of PVs, but it really sounds like some here need to remove the tinfoil hats. The OP asked some legitimate questions. Whether you like the questions or not isn't germane to their legitimacy.

I'm glad that my initial questions weren't met with this level of hostility and rudeness. But who knows? Like I said, I'm a newb and likely at some point to run afoul of the sage veteran vaper who thinks I'm a troll for attempting to eliminate my ignorance.
 

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Your mom said not to say...
What I don't understand is that if the OP has been vaping for a couple of months should they have not known that 1) You can get the stuff just about as cheap and much faster here 2) The shipping times when you order from China via the slow boat $5 shipping you are going to be waiting a while for it 3) To order enough supplies to last until your next shipment?

I can understand a complete noob who ordered a kit without doing any research and believed the hype that a cart was the equivalent of a pack of cigarettes or something and didn't think they would need any more juice or carts for a while but it makes no sense for someone who has been vaping for a while.
 

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I'm a newb myself. I'm sure that there are trolls who regularly visit sites like this in an effort to screw with other peoples enjoyment of PVs, but it really sounds like some here need to remove the tinfoil hats. The OP asked some legitimate questions. Whether you like the questions or not isn't germane to their legitimacy.

I'm glad that my initial questions weren't met with this level of hostility and rudeness. But who knows? Like I said, I'm a newb and likely at some point to run afoul of the sage veteran vaper who thinks I'm a troll for attempting to eliminate my ignorance.
When someone writes this as part of their question -

"I'm a bit worried now cause I am 100% sure that I am way more addicted to nicotine than ever before. I don't mind vaping for the rest of my life, I just hope it doesn't get banned cause if it does I'll prob end up smoking 2x more than before and dying of cancer earlier."

It sounds a lot like someone trying to stir up trouble in a place like this especially when that statement is pretty much identical to some of the things FDA had in their report don't ya think?
 

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I don't really care what you think, first thing i did was google propylene glycol dangers and found a numerous amount of articles. Which in turn worried me a bit. Anyone with some real positive feedback would be nice.

Please link to the articles that show PG as harmful to humans.
 

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Your mom said not to say...
I've been vaping on my Joye 510 for about 4 weeks now. So far everything's been good, I lost one at a bar and the other one broke within days. What ever you do, do not mess with the atomizer unless you are an expert. Mine tasted like burnt plastic and i noticed strands of plastic hairs inside so i pulled them out thinking it was a piece of my filler. Nope, it was installed in there from the factory, why i ask? I have no idea. Anyways to my question.

Will lacing regular cigarettes with e-juice be harmful to the body besides the analog cig already itself? Since I have to wait 1-2 weeks to get my new e-cig shipment from China I've purchased analog cigs in the mean time and whoa marlboro red 100's cant even satisfy my cravings any more. I literally had to drop e-juice around my cig to feel anything.

I'm a bit worried now cause I am 100% sure that I am way more addicted to nicotine than ever before. I don't mind vaping for the rest of my life, I just hope it doesn't get banned cause if it does I'll prob end up smoking 2x more than before and dying of cancer earlier.

If you break this thing down you will see why nobody took it serious. The very first sentence states that he has been vaping for 4 weeks, his words not mine. To follow that up with the statements that he made dulled the credibility quite a bit in the peoples eyes I would imagine.

These are not what I would call hostile replies, if you want hostile comments posted make a post stating how tired you are of seeing the same 6 questions asked over and over, every 90 minutes or so because people are too lazy to read, then get back to me. It's all new and some of us are bit ahead of the curve folks, we can't all have all the answers all the time.
 

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You could always try dripping the juice right into your eyes. I do not recommend doing it, but eye imagine the absorption rate would be pretty hi.

Ask your doctor if that would be safe.
Funny how this guy accuses me as a troll yet he's on here trolling at this minute. Don't respond you're useless to my questions.
 

b00gym4n

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What I don't understand is that if the OP has been vaping for a couple of months should they have not known that 1) You can get the stuff just about as cheap and much faster here 2) The shipping times when you order from China via the slow boat $5 shipping you are going to be waiting a while for it 3) To order enough supplies to last until your next shipment?

I can understand a complete noob who ordered a kit without doing any research and believed the hype that a cart was the equivalent of a pack of cigarettes or something and didn't think they would need any more juice or carts for a while but it makes no sense for someone who has been vaping for a while.

I did more research than you think. I bought the Joyetech 510 for a reason. Not some blucig from an ad or at a mall kiosk. In response to your 3 assumptions.

1) If you can direct me to a website where I can purchase Joye 510 Starter kits for under $35 & $9.00 30ml 24mg bottles of e-juice compared to where I buy mine from China (Heaven-gifts.com, Healthcabin.net, Eastmall.net) best prices i've found so far U.S & Overseas, please do so. I am eager to know because I do not enjoy waiting over a week for an item. Thanks.

2) Same as above

3) 2 things i have to say about this, 1. I didnt want to buy mass suply on an item that I have never tried even if people I have never met online say its great. 2. I dont have extra money to spend frequently. My main reason for vaping was to save money. So far Ive been using $3.50-$5.00 (10-15ml) in e-juice a week compared to $5.38 in cigs a day x 7. The costs of replacing spare parts is adding its toll though.
 

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Please link to the articles that show PG as harmful to humans.

Much has been made by promoters of safe non toxic personal care toiletries and cosmetics of the dangers of known toxic chemicals such as Propylene Glycol and Ethylene Glycol, a related chemical. Although exposure to high levels of Propylene Glycol is known to cause serious and potentially irreversible health conditions, the chemical industry tell us that "small" quantities or low level exposure of Propylene Glycol is "safe" to use on the skin and in food. According to the safety data sheets of industrial chemical manufacturers, chemicals such as Ethylene Glycol and Propylene Glycol will cause serious health conditions, including liver and heart damage and damage to the central nervous system if sufficient is absorbed by the body.

sourced from a the 1st website on google keyword "propylene glycol dangers". I could not post the link since i am new to this forum. (15 posts min.)

Not sure how legitimate that website is, but it did give me a 2nd opinion about the chemical. I've always been open to all types of information so I can analyze the best decision for myself.
 
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