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E-juice rots Drag Metal...!?

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  1. jfcooley

    jfcooley I find your lack of faith disturbing... Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Can't post the screen shot, forgot about personal communications rule (my bad).

    I sent Voopoo a message on FB with a pic of my Drags paint chipping asking why this was happening.

    The reply was that "ejuice rots metal".

    Think about that.
     
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  2. ScottP

    ScottP Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    Houston, TX
    No, it may mess up paint though. It would take something seriously caustic to "rot metal".
     
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  3. jfcooley

    jfcooley I find your lack of faith disturbing... Verified Member ECF Veteran

    At first thought it was my wedding band chipping it, but it's only on one side.

    Don't think I expected much from them, but certainly didn't think they'd claim it was rotting the metal, lol.

    Hope my lungs are ok./s
     
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  4. Eskie

    Eskie ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 6, 2016
    NY
    Google Translate strikes again. Metal is fine. Paint, eh.
     
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  5. jfcooley

    jfcooley I find your lack of faith disturbing... Verified Member ECF Veteran

    You know, hadn't considered translation error.
     
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  6. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Help! My coil's rotting inside my tank!

    I don't think e-juice rots too much of anything. It's not like the whole Coca-Cola thing where you can dissolve a tooth in it overnight.

    Anna
     
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  7. Opinionated

    Opinionated ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Here's the thing. Just like some ejuice flavors would react (chemically) with cheap plastics of old, (much like mixing vinegar and baking soda causes a chemical reaction) they can also react with cheap paints..

    Thing is, we've known this for years! it was known long before I started vaping, and I've been vaping for years.

    What the company apparently doesn't want to say, is that they know there is a known problem and simply refuse to compensate for the problem by using a better finish, one which doesn't react poorly with some ejuices..

    Here's the thing though, the drag is inexpensive and it's apparent from this one of the reasons why is that they are using cheap paints for their finish. I guess its a give and take when the price point is so low, and I'd certainly rather the problem be the finish (which can be sanded down ourselves) than the board or other key components, but I'm disappointed in a company who won't at least take responsibility for their own cost cutting measures.

    I guess perhaps we shouldn't expect them to say " oh, we use cheaper paint to keep costs low" but it sure would be nice!
     
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  8. retired1

    retired1 Administrator Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Au contraire. E-liquids (especially tank crackers) have been known to affect various plastics and finishes for years. In the "early days" of vaping, there were certain flavors you just didn't use in the plastic clearo's.
     
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  9. jfcooley

    jfcooley I find your lack of faith disturbing... Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Liability has kept companies from owning mistakes/dumb decisions. I get that. Always someone wanting to make a buck.

    It's little things though. If someone owns a screw up I have much more respect for them then the one that makes an excuse.

    These chips aren't killing me. A topic yesterday prompted me to question them. I would have accepted a "whoops" or "what'd ya expect for $60?". This I found lazy.

    And funny.
     
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  10. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Thanks Retired1, I haven't experienced a tank cracking juice yet so I tend not to think about that.

    Anna
     
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  11. Opinionated

    Opinionated ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    That's because manufacturers changed the materials they used in/for tanks once the problem was known... it's something you will likely never see now as a result.
     
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  12. retired1

    retired1 Administrator Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Well, sorta kinda. Depends on how "old school" one tends to be. :D

    I have to be careful on what I use in my original RSSTs (plastic tank). The newer glass ones are worry free, though. And you can still get those gas station rigs that include the venerable CE4 clearomizers which are still extremely prone to cracking with certain e-liquids.
     
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  13. jfcooley

    jfcooley I find your lack of faith disturbing... Verified Member ECF Veteran

    When that happened, did the manufacturer replace the plastic or were you just out of luck?
     
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  14. Opinionated

    Opinionated ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I started vaping with the ce4's, and honestly I never had a problem with my cinnamon roll type flavors. It may have been the flavors I was using never had enough cinnamon or other flavors to cause the same reaction, and it may be I saw those ce4's as a disposable part and put on a new one every week or so, but I never encountered the problem earlier tanks had..
     
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  15. Opinionated

    Opinionated ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Just out of luck and told not to use e juice in them... Hahaha
     
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  16. Coastal Cowboy

    Coastal Cowboy This aggression will not stand, man! Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 13, 2013
    Alabama Gulf Coast
    Cinnamon, citrus, pineapple and some mint flavors were a death sentence for polycarbonate tanks like the Evod.

    MBV had a running list of tank crackers.

    E-Juice Flavors That May Break a Plastic Tank - Mt Baker Vapor

    It's no stretch to see those flavors degrading the finishes of our devices.

    Some of the manufacturers are now coating their devices with ceramic stuff that's scratch and juice resistant.
     
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  17. retired1

    retired1 Administrator Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    You used tank crackers at your own risk. If it ate the plastic, you just replaced the clearo. This was not something that was a fault of the manufacturer.

    Here's a thread that's been around for a very long time on ECF.

    Let's make a list of juices/flavors that crack tanks, ce2's/clearos...
     
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  18. jfcooley

    jfcooley I find your lack of faith disturbing... Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Well now, I have something to think about. Bought a mod that I'm going to refinish.

    Was planning a candy coat with a couple coats of clear polycarbonate.

    Will have to see if juice has any effect on that.
     
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  19. Opinionated

    Opinionated ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Your probably going to have better luck with various heat safe ceramic paints..
     
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  20. jfcooley

    jfcooley I find your lack of faith disturbing... Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I'll have to look into those. Hoping to get a good finish on this thing after it arrives. Plan on taking time in prep. Never painted a mod, should be fun.
     
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