E - Lites Refills 100% RIPP OFF ! ! !

[Maky]

I am writing this in the hope that it might possibly be amongst the first things a Googler see's after typing the name off there e-cig in Google etc. Aiming at people who know no better or don't even realize they can buy e-liquid for refilling. (as I didn't last week)

I am 100% certain that every refill pack I have bought from e-lite has been under filled. What I mean is they aren't using the full space in a cartomizer. I.E ripping you off. Do not beleive for a second that one cartomizer is equal to 40 cigarettes. LIE. LIE. LIE.
I am sure you will allready have figured that out before coming here.

This morning I received 60ml of RY4 e-liquid. 10.00 a.m to be precise. I had allready last night boiled the old cartomizers that I saved, and had them dried. I excitedly syringed about 1ml into the polyfill untill it was fully saturated. I think it was probably less than a ml though.

The taste is fantastic and there is more vapour. I have been puffing on it insanely for the last 5 hours. It is still going. My battery has just ran out and I had to swop it for my spare. I don't know how much longer it will last but I am happy beyond belief. As is my mother.

One thing I noticed with E-Lites is that when you buy your actual e-cig which has 1 cartomizer in the pack, that first cartomizer lasted me a day and a half of use when I was using it sparingly because of the price. Every refill I have had since has struggled to last 5 - 6 hours of sparing use. They are SCAM MERCHANTS. The 80 cigarette equivalent advertizing on the pack is BULL ****.

I know I am in need of getting a Personal Vapour which I intend to do next week. This will further enhance my vaping experience.

Anyone who reads this from google. You need to refill your own cartomizer's and save massive £££ £££ £££.

THERE ARE VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE SHOWING YOU HOW TO DO IT.

All forum members who read this please respond if you have had similar experience with E-Lites. Make sure you write "E-Lites are a ripp off" or something similer in your response. That will make it hit high on search engine's.

PEACE

 

[evan le'garde]

The prefilled carts are a right royal ripoff. It wouldn't be so bad if they priced them fairly. There again the empty carts aren't cheap either

 

[eratikmind]

That is what ultimately lead me to ECF . . . To find a more practical and better experience.


- Andy . . . Challenge the day.

 

[crxess]

Mini's - cart types are introduction 101 to Vaping and a very costly way to find out you can stop smoking.
A quick move to an ego 650mah battery and CE5 clearomizer plus a decent bottle of e-liquid will cost about the same and do way better.

My way of thinking, that should be the standard start up package and cig-a-likes should be removed from the market. To many people are turned off and lost back to smoking from bad experiences.

 

[Fred Garvin]

Yep......you just realized what countless others have before you......nothing new here. Most folks realize this quickly and move off the cigalikes/mass advertised products fairly soon into their vape journey.

But....welcome to ECF! Home of the vaping masses who seek the best experience possible. Get some good gear and some great juice that folks here endorse and recommend.

 

[Fred Garvin]

My way of thinking, that should be the standard start up package and cig-a-likes should be removed from the market. To many people are turned off and lost back to smoking from bad experiences.

There are a few decent cigalikes out there. Before SafeCig got victimized and ruined they were pretty decent. V2's work well for what they are....and there's another I can't think of right now. But they're far and few between....it's all the other garbage out there that gives the few good ones a black eye.

 

[Chrissie]

Makey, many of us in the UK feel very strongly about the false claims that E-lites make There is no way their "tips" are equivalent to 40 real cigarettes. Plus there are so many cheaper & far better e-cigs available from good UK e-cig vendors -

http://allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/1148/cigarette-liquid-vendors-discount-codes

 

[Maky]

It's outragous what they are doing. I've been puffing away for 6 hours now. I don't use it this heavily usually but I just want to see how far under a ML will go.

The battery is not nothing special either. Dies after 5 hours. I always have a spare on charge though.

Cant wait to get my riva with its 1100 batteries next weekend.

Well, back to the spring cleaning. Summer is on the way !

 

[Dana A]

In my experience with cartomizers (prefilled tips) it takes 4 to 6 of them to equal 40 real cigs. I hope this will help someone. Also if you top off that cartomizer frequently like when it's about half way empty it will lengthen the life of the carto considerably. Keeping it good and wet stops the filler tissue inside from getting burnt so fast. Hope this helps someone out.

 

[Chrissie]

It's outragous what they are doing. I've been puffing away for 6 hours now. I don't use it this heavily usually but I just want to see how far under a ML will go.

The battery is not nothing special either. Dies after 5 hours. I always have a spare on charge though.

Cant wait to get my riva with its 1100 batteries next weekend.

Well, back to the spring cleaning. Summer is on the way !

Maky, you will love the Riva - especially compared to your e-lite

 

[honey1997]

Mini's - cart types are introduction 101 to Vaping and a very costly way to find out you can stop smoking.
A quick move to an ego 650mah battery and CE5 clearomizer plus a decent bottle of e-liquid will cost about the same and do way better.

My way of thinking, that should be the standard start up package and cig-a-likes should be removed from the market. To many people are turned off and lost back to smoking from bad experiences.

cress, I note you would like to see cig-alikes removed from the market. However, I started with E-Lites, which stopped me smoking after 38 years, where no other method could stop me, and now I am very happy vaping Vapourlites, which are about half the cost of EL's. I am aware refilling would be cheaper, but as it is, I am spending about 80p per day on VL's, which is low enough for me not to bother about, and they are adequate to keep my cravings at bay. For people with busy lives and want a straight alternative to analogues, look a likes are great and I hope will become more and more popular.

 

[tj99959]

My major complaint with prefilled carts/cartos is what do you do with them when they're empty!?! At least we could field strip a cigarette .....

 

[djsvapour]

Maky...

I don't know about the filling business; I personally can't see why E-Lites would short-fill their cartomisers, they have set the bar unrealistically high with the "40" cigarette claims and putting less in would make it even more obvious to consumers. They don't do "40" as it is and the idea that under/approx 1ml of e-liquid can be 40 cigarettes-worth of nicotine is nonsense, as even someone who failed Maths at school knows 1 x 24 = 24 and almost none of the popular brands in the UK will have only 24mg over 2 packs. 40 benson and hedges (the no.1 UK brand will have 44mg on average in two packets).

I have wasted hours of my life trying to get the truth out there, and believe me, google will find all the good reviews and almost none of the bad.

However, I enjoyed your post and let's hope one day you'll be on the top of google. It might happen.

 

[crxess]

cress, I note you would like to see cig-alikes removed from the market. However, I started with E-Lites, which stopped me smoking after 38 years, where no other method could stop me, and now I am very happy vaping Vapourlites, which are about half the cost of EL's. I am aware refilling would be cheaper, but as it is, I am spending about 80p per day on VL's, which is low enough for me not to bother about, and they are adequate to keep my cravings at bay. For people with busy lives and want a straight alternative to analogues, look a likes are great and I hope will become more and more popular.

Well, not so much the Cig-a-likes as the bandits that make a fortune ripping people off. Avg. cartridge style M401(mini e-cig) holes 6 drops of e-liquid. about 4 drops available to vape. All the expense is in marketing/packaging with little actual product included.

Another concern - is the sticma of the design. To practically all non-smokers, it is still a cig, electronic or not.

I started on M401's and 510 styles with the Cig looking case and all. Quickly moved into something thae worked much better and cost much less to use.
M401/510 - people always asked me. What are you smoking?
Egos - eVic they now ask - What is that? And I get to teach

I like to come at this from both ends. Help us and educate them.

 

[Slummy]

Im using jacvapour, also a uk company similar to e-lites, however jacvapour encourage the refilling of their carts with e-liquid, so you get more for your money than a company like e-lights. tho im sure you can probably pop of the carts on the e-lite carts and refill them with e-liquid...

all these mainstream mini ecig companies advertise about 30-40 cigs per cart, which ofcourse they are hugely over estimating for the sake of marketing.

as a noob, i was also wondering about this so i looked it up...

-the carts generally can hold 1ml of liquid which is about 20-25 drops of e-liquid, of which only about 18-20 drops is useable in the cart.

-experienced vapors have estimated that 3-4 drops of eliquid is equal to one cigarette, therfore one full cart is generally equates to about 5-7 cigarettes

-A previously 20 a day smoker typically goes through upto 4 carts in a day.


i think the e-lights use a 510 dont they? if i was you i would just buy some empty refillable carts which you can reuse, you can get them countless places on the net for very cheap. and buy your bottles of e-liquid of preferred flavour and strength. its the most cost effective way to vape, and fun. buying pre-filled carts is a rip off.

Hope this helps,

theres more information at this thread here...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/263069-no-one-carto-n-o-t-equivalent-pack-cigarettes.html

 

[djsvapour]

Im using jacvapour, also a uk company similar to e-lites, however jacvapour encourage the refilling of their carts with e-liquid, so you get more for your money than a company like e-lights. tho im sure you can probably pop of the carts on the e-lite carts and refill them with e-liquid...

-A previously 20 a day smoker typically goes through upto 4 carts in a day.

i think the e-lights use a 510 dont they?

Hi Slummy.

Unfortunately E-Lites are not 510, if they were, I wouldn't have swapped to JacVapour.

I'm not sure JacVapour would be so happy to think they were being categorised in with E-Lites. After my E-Lites adventure (of buying stuff, vaping away, getting moody and emotional (from nicotine withdrawal), buying more stuff, extra cartomisers, more cartomisers, etc.) I went to JacVapour because they are a good bunch of guys keen not only to make their business work, but also to not overcharge for cartomisers.
We know Jac stuff is a bit odd with KR-808D1 (?) fittings and they do charge a bit more for batteries, but the intention (as I understand it) was to stick with proprietary accessories not to p' off the customers but try and encourage people buying a kit to then stick with them, not for pure profit, but also to look after their customers. They DO care and my dealings with them have been 100% first-rate.

I was using 2 x E-Lites refills a day (and still smoking) and when I wrote this on a review site, saying it would cost me over £3,000 a year, I was approached by the site to have my review "removed" in the interests of "lack of balance". I refused and then ensued a 2-week-long email discussion which ended up in me consulting a lawyer. In the end I backed down. E-Lites win, I lose.

Thankfully, down to forums and genuine people helping me, I quit tobacco and now vape very little.

Although I am happy (more than happy) to have not smoked for a long time now, I still feel upset about the episode.

 

[djsvapour]

P.S. Rolygate's thread is one of the best I have ever read. He deserves a medal.

 

[Vale46]

{edit} E- lites. Uselessly giving e cigs a bad name. Complete rip off.

 

[Slummy]

@djsvapour,

Yeh i agree, jacvapour is a very good honest company, tho shame they have a lot of stock issues... they seem to get all there gear from china.

im not sure why they use kr808, but i suspect its because the v3 batts they use actually use a higher voltage than a standard 510 mini ecig bat, so better vapour production. tho you tend to go through carts quicker

the 808 carts i get from v2, or jacvapour, prefilled or refilled myself, tend to last me about 5 hours chain vaping, which is actually pretty good in my opinion

 

[crxess]

Cleanup - Isle #18
That is not needed to make your point.