E-Roll vs Volt to Help My Daughter Switch

[DancingHeretik]

I'm trying to figure out the best set-up to help my daughter switch to vaping.

I have Volts already, which I really like. But, I don't think she's using them very much. I'm getting nervous that it might not work. I can pre-fill all her cartos for her. So, she doesn't even have to do that! I could also maybe try giving her more flavors.

However, I was thinking that the E-Roll looks like it might be even better for a new vaper. It's really cute and tempting to use just for the coolness factor. And, it's a lot like really smoking a cigarette because of the size.

My daughter is a light to moderate smoker. She doesn't smoke nearly as much as I did. Yet, she "depends" on each cigarette more than I did. With me, it was more of a pacifier. I'm older and from a time when you could smoke everywhere. So, cigarettes were a constant companion.

For her, smoking is more about taking a break/getting a fix. So, even though she's a lighter smoker, she may need more TH and more satisfaction from each puff. That's why I'm not sure about the E-Roll. I'm hearing people say they need to up the nic to get the same satisfaction.

I'm not sure if my daughter would be willing to try anything bigger. Maybe, a 650 mah Ego (still relatively small, yet good battery life) with a 2.0 ohm carto? I don't know.

Maybe I should get together a few different set-ups, all pre-filled and ready to go, and have a little vaping party for her on her day off. She needs to have time to hang around and experiment/practice. That way, during the week when she's busy rushing around without time to stop and think about it, she can just vape fairly automatically.

She really does want to quit. She even bought an overpriced mall e-cig a few years ago before I had even heard about e-cigs.

Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[Thrasher]

I never used either but i would think, cuter and smaller also means running out of charge faster and more fiddling with supplies and extra batteries. something that turns most new vapors off about the experience.

Upping the nic will help, when you can actually feel it working without working on it constantly you realize this can work and can go longer befor the need for more kicks in.
some of the problem I had with my808 starter stuff was thinking this can work but I just cant seem to get enough at once from it.

 

[kiwivap]

Hi Dancing,
I was a heavy smoker, 40-50 a day. My first pv was about the size of the e-roll, called a Hydro. It was ok, but I soon started looking for something else. It kept me off the cigs tho.
I think the e-roll is better quality than my Hydro was. With the PCC that comes with it she might prefer it. I'd recommend upping the nic if she's a quick fix smoker.

I think the vape party is a good idea. Some good coffee, and a few pvs.... Feel free to invite me over.

Also, it may not be the Volts, but the flavor, or nic level. So maybe a few different juices to try?

You could also show her some different ones online - there's something about picking out a pv and then waiting for it to arrive...

 

[MiamiMom63]

I tried getting my son a few different mods and juices and even showed him how to DIY, and he never seemed to really appreciate the whole vaping thing, the mods got broken, the juice stashed in a drawer and he would be smoking again. I had to learn that it's up to him to make it a success. I think if your daughter is truly interested in quitting smoking and just vaping then she would be the one in here asking questions. I hope you don't take this the wrong way because I do wish you success, but I just know that my brother and my son have had the world of vaping handed to them but never got the bug for it that makes it successful.

 

[zuzette]

I dont have the eroll - but it is similar to the ego c as it is the same system miniaturized. I was a pretty heavy smoker at 2 ppd and I did not like the c. the vapor was thin to me and so smooth it was like air. Even at a high nic content I did not feel like I was getting enough from it.
I used ego batteries and mini vivi nova's for months and this was more satisfying. But right now I have switched over to a bloog which is similar to the volt and I am enjoying it a lot more.
I think the real key is finding her a flavor that she just loves. I tried everything and even DIY and I still was not happy with what i had.
You see I was a menthol smoker and yet, I did not want to go the menthol vape route because I hate tobacco flavored vape. I figured menthol vape would taste like tobacco with a tiny twinge of menthol.
But I got a menthol with my bloog set up and OMG - I wish I had known I would love it so months ago. For me menthol turned out to be the keeper juice.

but the point is the right flavor. that vape party might be just the thing. get lots of flavors to try and she just might find one that works for her.

as for volt vs the eroll - of course I will say volt. to me the cartomizer is just the easier thing to use than the separate tank and atty. I also love having a new cartomizer every few fills. no guessing which part is going bad - just juice up a new cartomizer or pop in a new pre-filled one. no cleaning. no fussing.

Filling with the condom method is super easy too and takes just seconds. she might really enjoy knowing how easy it is to do and give her more control over her own vape experience without making it complex or mysterious.

 

[zuzette]

I never used either but i would think, cuter and smaller also means running out of charge faster and more fiddling with supplies and extra batteries. something that turns most new vapors off about the experience.

Upping the nic will help, when you can actually feel it working without working on it constantly you realize this can work and can go longer befor the need for more kicks in.
some of the problem I had with my808 starter stuff was thinking this can work but I just cant seem to get enough at once from it.

When I started vaping in 08 everything was fiddly and difficult . I had to buy everything from china - except the njoy and it was hugely expensive. it did not take me long to quit. When I came back to vaping I believed the minis would be more hassle too. but after using the egos and vivi novas for months I found that I was really tired of fiddling with cleaning the tank and heads, replacing parts and wondering why something wasnt working the way it should.
I bought an 808 and I have been very happy with its ease of use. there is no fiddle factor at all. If a carto isnt working well - i just toss it.
But I am getting 6-8 refills out of every cartomizer and so its not all that expensive either.

User experience is very subjective.

 

[flintlock62]

I think the eRoll will be far superior to the volt from what I've read. I don't own one, but I do know the batteries are much more powerful.

 

[DEVO357]

cuter and smaller also means running out of charge faster and more fiddling with supplies and extra batteries. something that turns most new vapors off about the experience.

I totally agree, go with more endurance.

 

[ajventi]

I think you have to find out what's not working for her with the Volts. I'm guessing if she's used to an occasional smoke break she's not getting the nicotine she needs with the PV. The vape party might be a good idea, but she may also need to play around with different levels of nicotine to find where she's getting a better experience.

 

[djtonyb]

From what I've read, the e-roll is a nice little system for being on the go... the batteries are small, but they are made to be used then tucked back into the charging case, not last all day by themselves. I really liked my CigEasy 808 Elite with the larger 2ml cartos over the regular 808's, but I love the CigEasy TurboEZ tank system I'm currently using... the tanks aren't at all fussy, and the heads are easy to change and clean. The only drawback is that the threading is plastic and can strip easily if you drop the thing, and nothing is compatible with other systems... (well, the heads fit a Kanger T2, but that's about it). I've been using the EZ for a month now, and one battery gets me through the better part of a day.

 

[tidegirl]

I think the eRoll will be far superior to the volt from what I've read. I don't own one, but I do know the batteries are much more powerful.

How do you get that the eroll batts are more powerful? They are 90 mah. That is not even going to last an hour. A 78 mm Volt is approx 300 mah, and they are regulated, so you get the same vape start to finish.

I would stay with the Volt and experiment with nic levels and flavors, unless she wants to move to something larger. Aside from battery life, the eroll looks like it is carts (cartridges) instead of cartos (cartomizers), which is taking a step back by a few years.

 

[flintlock62]

Oops! I meant to say the eRoll PCC, it's 1,000 mAh. Thanks for pointing that out.

How do you get that the eroll batts are more powerful? They are 90 mah. That is not even going to last an hour. A 78 mm Volt is approx 300 mah, and they are regulated, so you get the same vape start to finish.

I would stay with the Volt and experiment with nic levels and flavors, unless she wants to move to something larger. Aside from battery life, the eroll looks like it is carts (cartridges) instead of cartos (cartomizers), which is taking a step back by a few years.

 

[DancingHeretik]

Aside from battery life, the eroll looks like it is carts (cartridges) instead of cartos (cartomizers), which is taking a step back by a few years.

The E-Roll is essentially an Ego-C and uses the same replaceable coils as the Ego-C, but with a smaller battery and smaller tanks.

 

[jayscott]

I have an eroll and quite like it. I originally bought a vision spinner and ego mini, which are great for home use however, I got very frustrated with carrying them around at work. The eroll battery is 90 mah but the pcc is 1000mah and the two are not meant to be used apart. This essentially makes the whole thing 1090mah when fully charged. The eroll is 3.7 volt and after breaking in the atty gives a good amount of vapor, about the same as my 3.7volt ego mini and a standard carto. The eroll tanks are small but also cheap and easy to carry 4 or 5 in a small container, this is great for me as I like to change juice frequently.

I don't think either will be a bad choice, as some have mentioned picking the right juice is the most important part.

 

[swedishfish]

I'd get her a 650 ego/riva/kgo with low resistance cartos. It's small and the low resistance cartos make a huge difference IMO.

They come in all colors and you can pick up a pretty decent kit for around $35. One battery will last her around 6 hours.