EGO E-Power 18650 vs Smoke Tech E-Power 18650

[PepNYC]

Oh crap...I totally missed that. Duh. Sorry bout that micksf.


Well, as an update I'd recieved a reply from Liberty Flights. He told me to try to adjust the center post in the mod. He said to go in with a pin or a paper clip and try to lift it ever so slightly. He said those are made to "float" because of the different tolerances for the different vendors. I dunno. I'll try to mess with it when I get home from work later this evening and see what happens.

Ok, so I got home adjusted the center post and my ego-t atty worked........for a little while. When I went back and put my regular 510 dual coil carto on, took a few toots and then put my tank atty back on it didn't work anymore. Seems as though the center post is not adjusted properly to work with original ego equipment and after I adjust it to sit higher, when I put a regular 510 atty or carto on it pushes it back down and once again the center post sits too low for the eGo-T atty. This unit only seems to work with "newer" style 510 devices even though it say specifically on Smoktech's website that they WILL work with ALL eGo and eGo-T accessories.

So I emailed Ty at Liberty Flights and this was his response...

Steven,

Perhaps the center post in the carto you are using is a bit proud. If that's the case, you can either try to adjust it, or try not threading it onto the battery so tightly.

I don't think sending you a new unit will solve the problem. as I routinely have this problem, with all of my batteries (including ego's, riva's, Fireflies, e-powers, and even my buzz pro). It just the nature of the beast. It's much more common an issue with the EGO style atties and cartos. If it's something you can't live with, I would recommend sticking with the 510 atties and cartos, as It is rarely an issue with them, because there is no skirt on the atomizer to get in the way.

Ty

Now I don't know about you guys but I can't believe every thing other than a eGo-T atty is sitting too "proud" and has to be adjusted. I just cannot accept that. I've tried at least 3 different cartos and they all do the same thing. Tried a Boge single coil, a smoktech dual coil and even the Mega attys that came with it and they all push the center post back down. Skirt or no skirt. I have a local place that sells these. I'm going over today and see if I have the same issues on theirs. It's the same exact model shape color and made by Smoktech. TBC......................

 

[PepNYC]

I just got home from myfreedomsmokes where I tested my eGo-T attys, type A and type B, on their eGo epower and they both worked fine. So my conclusion is there is something wacky going on with the one from Liberty Flights. Same exact tube but yields different results....go figure. It seems that the center pad/post in the one from LF is off by just a millimeter or something thus not allowing it to make the positive connection to the atty. Or ... could be a thinner metal pad. I don't know. Eh.....

 

[micksf]

interesting. hope you get it resolved. that's great you have a resource like that so close to you.

 

[PepNYC]

interesting. hope you get it resolved. that's great you have a resource like that so close to you.

Hey micksf, just out of curiosity, what color is the light on your power switch of the epower you got from myfreedomsmokes? White?

 

[micksf]

white- when on, clear/grey - when off

 

[PepNYC]

white- when on, clear/grey - when off


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Ok...same here. Weird that the ones from Liberty Flights are blue. One other interesting difference I've found between the 2. The one from Liberty Flights reads at a bit more than 4v with a freshly charged battery in it. The one from Myfreedomsmokes only reads at 3.67v with the same freshly charged battery. I think the ones from MFS are regulated at 3.7v. Just another little interesting anomaly I thought I'd mention. Fun stuff...eh?

 

[lostinky]

I just got the one for liberty flights last week and have gotten a replacement for it already the button on my seems to hang on till the unit times out also if you read all the listing on the one from liberty flights you can stack a set of cr123s in it a vape at 6 volts it is not regulated at 3.7 volts that may be the reason the button is blue and not white.

 

[PepNYC]

I just got the one for liberty flights last week and have gotten a replacement for it already the button on my seems to hang on till the unit times out also if you read all the listing on the one from liberty flights you can stack a set of cr123s in it a vape at 6 volts it is not regulated at 3.7 volts that may be the reason the button is blue and not white.

lostinky:

Have you tried yours with any of the eGo-T atomizers?

 

[lostinky]

No the only ones i have tried it with are the boge 2ohm carts and the drip-o-miser that liberty flights sell and i have had nothing but great vape from it. Just got my cr123 batteries in today soon to try it out at 6v.

 

[Vaprific]

I'm doing a bit of window shopping myself. And with that of course comes a generous amount of confusion.

Most of my other stuff is kr8 threaded so I'm not too worried about fitting ego 510 stuff, but what does get me is that smok tech rates the batteries at 2200, and the two retail vendors I checked rated them at 2800 mah. Anyone have an idea why? Are they completely different batteries but the same tube or something?

 

[PepNYC]

I'm doing a bit of window shopping myself. And with that of course comes a generous amount of confusion.

Most of my other stuff is kr8 threaded so I'm not too worried about fitting ego 510 stuff, but what does get me is that smok tech rates the batteries at 2200, and the two retail vendors I checked rated them at 2800 mah. Anyone have an idea why? Are they completely different batteries but the same tube or something?

Yeah, it is confusing. This is what i've read in the last week or so since my last post. It seems that there are 2 styles of "eGo" type epower mods out there. The one with the blue light which is not regulated so you can use 18650 batts or stack 2 cr123's to get 6v. Those are the newer versions. Then we have the ones with the white light that are regulated at 3.7v and thats all you can get out of them. The older epower versions are the ones with the wide tube and cone and those come in 3 different configurations. Some use the 14650 batts. Some use the 2800mah batts, which I'm not sure how big those are and the third kind are the biggest rated at 2800mah which is what the new epower mods seems to take. You can actually find a 28650 batt at 3000mah. I think the numbers like 14650 and 28650 are the physical size where as the 2200 and 2800 are the actual mah's. For example, you cannot use a 28650 batt in a mod that uses a 14650. Won't fit. Does that make sense? Hopefully that will help clear up some of the confusion. In my opinion, I'd go with something that takes a 28650 batt. They are bigger but last quite a bit longer at 2800 and 3000 mahs. Just keep in mind though, if you get the regulated mod (white light), it will keep you at 3.7 till the battery dies where as the unregulated mod (blue light) will drop below 3.7 as the battery gets weaker. Both have pros and cons. I guess what matters is how you are going to use it. I myself purchased the eGo EPower 28650 mod with the blue light just in case I ever want to bump it up to 6v. Also keep in mind if you are wanting to use any of the ego-t atomizers you may be out of luck. I have two of these mods and the ego-t attys do not work with them however MICKSF who posted earlier in this thread said he bought one from myfreedomsmokes and it does work with his ego-t attys. Mine from myfreedomsmokes does not. Go figure. Just wanted to make you aware of that.

Oh...FYI - myfreedomsmokes sells the one with the white light and libertyflights sells the one with the blue light. Not pushing any vendors on ya but those are the only 2 I know that sell the different models.

 

[micksf]

fyi, just picked up a Bolt mod (18650 battery with extender). works great, loving it. Crystal Clear has the best price I've seen which includes a 18500 battery. extender sold separately allows for 18650 battery.

 

[PepNYC]

fyi, just picked up a Bolt mod (18650 battery with extender). works great, loving it. Crystal Clear has the best price I've seen which includes a 18500 battery. extender sold separately allows for 18650 battery.

Wow...not bad at all. Comes with a battery and everything for $37.50. And $8.75 for the extension isn't bad either. Ok so let me ask you this micksf. Why did you purchase this if you already have the ego epower mod at 3.7v? Just curious.


Just another FYI, Vixen Vapors has the Lavatube variable voltage mod on sale for $44.99 but only for the device. No batteries or charger. Goes from 3.0V to 6.0V, maxing out at 2.5A. Uses the 18650 batts which I have so I figured what the heck. I picked one up but didn't get it yet.

 

[micksf]

I've got multiple tanks going with different flavors inside. buying another mod is just a convenience so I can vape different flavors without switching out tanks as often.

I did watch the recent phil B. review of the lavatube. I am interested in it as maybe a future purchase but he did state that it has connection problems with the certain type of carto that I use so and there is a different approach to the VV with this unit that I'm not quite certain I'm satisfied with. It's suppose to be VV but from what I understand it's not completely user adjustable. It recognized what type of carto/atty you have attached and automatically adjusts for it. This is meant to be a feature so you don't burn out your carto by mistake. So for those reasons, I'm hesitant. but overall I think it would be a good device.

If your not already familiar, here is a link to his review site (lavatube review is from 2/5/12). I think his are some the best, most consistent and reliable reviews out there.

www.youtube.com/user/pbusardo?feature=watch

Wow...not bad at all. Comes with a battery and everything for $37.50. And $8.75 for the extension isn't bad either. Ok so let me ask you this micksf. Why did you purchase this if you already have the ego epower mod at 3.7v? Just curious.


Just another FYI, Vixen Vapors has the Lavatube variable voltage mod on sale for $44.99 but only for the device. No batteries or charger. Goes from 3.0V to 6.0V, maxing out at 2.5A. Uses the 18650 batts which I have so I figured what the heck. I picked one up but didn't get it yet.

 

[PepNYC]

I've got multiple tanks going with different flavors inside. buying another mod is just a convenience so I can vape different flavors without switching out tanks as often.

I did watch the recent phil B. review of the lavatube. I am interested in it as maybe a future purchase but he did state that it has connection problems with the certain type of carto that I use so and there is a different approach to the VV with this unit that I'm not quite certain I'm satisfied with. It's suppose to be VV but from what I understand it's not completely user adjustable. It recognized what type of carto/atty you have attached and automatically adjusts for it. This is meant to be a feature so you don't burn out your carto by mistake. So for those reasons, I'm hesitant. but overall I think it would be a good device.

If your not already familiar, here is a link to his review site (lavatube review is from 2/5/12). I think his are some the best, most consistent and reliable reviews out there.

pbusardo's Channel - YouTube

Yeah. I like that guy myself. I like his reviews. As far as the Vixen Vapor lavatube mod not being totally user adjustable..I hope that's not the case seeing that it says it is on the website and I quote "User can adjust voltage very easily from 3.0V to 6.0V". Maybe it's a modified version? I guess I'll find out for sure when I get it. I'll let ya know. Thanks for the heads up though.

 

[micksf]

that's the controversy regarding this mod. like I said, it's a so-called feature. you can definitely adjust the voltage but it will restrict you from going "too" high depending on the ohms of your carto choice. that's my understanding anyway. some would see that as a great safety benefit, while others would be upset by not being able to do whatever they want.

 

[PepNYC]

that's the controversy regarding this mod. like I said, it's a so-called feature. you can definitely adjust the voltage but it will restrict you from going "too" high depending on the ohms of your carto choice. that's my understanding anyway. some would see that as a great safety benefit, while others would be upset by not being able to do whatever they want.

Ahhh...yes. I understand. I did see a review where it wouldn't let the person adjust it over 5.5v for one reason or another. Heck, If I can keep it at 4 -5v I'll be happy. I don't really want to go over that anyway. But at the same time I didn't want to be solely restricted to 5v by a 5v mod that I couldn't adjust. Eh..we'll see what happens. I might just pick up a bolt as well. That's if I can get away with it.....the wifey ya know. haha.

 

[micksf]

ha of course. I'm interested to hear how it goes. it may get bumped up on my list if I hear good things from you.

were you able to order it? I looked their site and it's got a "notify me when available" link.

Ahhh...yes. I understand. I did see a review where it wouldn't let the person adjust it over 5.5v for one reason or another. Heck, If I can keep it at 4 -5v I'll be happy. I don't really want to go over that anyway. But at the same time I didn't want to be solely restricted to 5v by a 5v mod that I couldn't adjust. Eh..we'll see what happens. I might just pick up a bolt as well. That's if I can get away with it.....the wifey ya know. haha.

 

[PepNYC]

ha of course. I'm interested to hear how it goes. it may get bumped up on my list if I hear good things from you.

were you able to order it? I looked their site and it's got a "notify me when available" link.

Oh wow you're right. I guess they sold them all. Yeah I was able to get one. Even got the shipping confirmation email. I'll be sure to let you know when it arrives and how it goes as soon as I give it a good once over.

 

[PepNYC]

Oh wow you're right. I guess they sold them all. Yeah I was able to get one. Even got the shipping confirmation email. I'll be sure to let you know when it arrives and how it goes as soon as I give it a good once over.

Well, just got my Vixen Quattro/Lavatube MOD in the mail about an hour ago. Already had an 18650 2800mah batt all charged up and ready for it. Although it says on the site the 18650's won't fit or will fit but the cap won't screw on flush, mine fit perfectly. Maybe because it's a flat top batt. No little center nipple thingy sticking up. Anyhow....I haven't put the thing down yet. So far it's awesome. Now I have to mention I'm only using it at 3.7v to 4.0v right now because I don't have the higher resistance cartos to use with the higher voltages so I can't really test it to see what would happen if I bump it up to 6v and if it will limit the voltage based on the resistance. I don't really want to try it on my lower resistance stuff and risk burning them out. All in all I really like it so far. A little long but it's thinner than I thought it would be so it compensates a bit for the length and not heavy at all, even with the 18650 battery in it. MICKSF....so far I would recommend this thing as 4.0v makes a huge difference over 3.7. Better flavor, vapor and throat hit. Heck, for $45 I think it's a good deal and if I'm not mistaken, you already have the batts and the charger. Good cheap way to get a VV Mod. I'll update you when I get it up to higher voltages to see if it throttles me down.

I've attached a few pics so you can get somewhat of an idea of size, features, etc...

It has a power button (small red). Voltage up and down buttons (2 small black) and the fire button (big black on side). It's made of aluminum and has 510 threads.