eGo-T Vs Go-go

[rolandpibb]

The 'flavor' just wasn't there... I mean, even on the eGo-T systems and other 510 systems it's like suddenly the juices I've been using for months just didn't have the 'flavor' anymore... they seemed 'muted' somehow.. they had a taste like 'dry smoke'.. and less throat hit... I noticed it especially (even moreso) on my Go-go... but as soon as I tried some 'new' juices... stronger 'flavored juices'... bam! it was all back.. like 'dripping' on a 510 atty again... (lol).. (I might add, all my juices I have used and now use is the same nic content (24mg)... most are all PG... but! the ones with the less 'flavor' have a small amount of VG in them. The pre-filled (24 mg Marlboro) Cartos from Cig-Easy are to die for however.... I can't even believe the difference. I'd been missing this kind of flavor, vapor & throat hit for a long time... glad to have 'found' it again..
I hope I explained this reasonably well....

What juices/flavours are you vaping?

 

[wigglr]

The 'flavor' just wasn't there... I mean, even on the eGo-T systems and other 510 systems it's like suddenly the juices I've been using for months just didn't have the 'flavor' anymore... they seemed 'muted' somehow.. they had a taste like 'dry smoke'.. and less throat hit... I noticed it especially (even moreso) on my Go-go... but as soon as I tried some 'new' juices... stronger 'flavored juices'... bam! it was all back.. like 'dripping' on a 510 atty again... (lol).. (I might add, all my juices I have used and now use is the same nic content (24mg)... most are all PG... but! the ones with the less 'flavor' have a small amount of VG in them. The pre-filled (24 mg Marlboro) Cartos from Cig-Easy are to die for however.... I can't even believe the difference. I'd been missing this kind of flavor, vapor & throat hit for a long time... glad to have 'found' it again..
I hope I explained this reasonably well....

Would you recommend 80-100% PG and extra-flavoring when I order?

 

[bobalex]

I used KR808 cartos and batts for my first 11 months of vaping and have been Go-Going for over a month now. Yes - the flavors are more "clear" on the Go-Go than my other e-cigs.

And ...

I've noticed I cycle through flavors. For weeks and weeks I like Marlboro ... and then one day I can't stand it. Same bottle of juice I liked the day before ... but today ... not so much. I've cycled through Marlboro and RY4 at least 3 times over the last year. 555 has a shorter cycle. I couldn't get enough "Smooth Tobacco" and then one day ... Ugh.

I think my tastebuds suffer from "flavor fatigue" with certain juices. I leave them alone for a week or so and then omigod ... Camel Is The Best!

But ...

One thing is for sure. Go-Carts deliver Flavor! And lots of it. I am amazed daily how good this thing is.

Bob

 

[Hippeh]

I've had the same issue with flavor, just never satisfied with what I've found. It kept me from converting fully to vaping.

I started with a 510, mostly using cartos but never got into dripping. Upgraded to an eGo, which was better but still not enough. Thought I'd found what I was looking for with an eGo-T, but only a week in it tastes like burned beer cans. Very, very disappointing but at least I have the tips for my Go-Go .

So I found this thread and have been reading and researching throughout the day. I just ordered a Go-Go kit from NHaler. Wish I had seen this sooner so I could look forward to having it for the weekend.

Has anyone tried filling the Go-Go cartos with a needle tip, like one of these:
KR808 Needle Assembly
-OR-
5ml Syringe 18 Gauge blunt needle

I had good results filling 510 cartos this way, it was nice filling from the bottom. Dripping it in could get messy. But I'm not sure if there is any design difference that would prohibit this from working.

 

[Erfmann]

The Gogo cartos are a larger diameter than the 808s. The soft mouthpiece cap pops off easily for refilling. I haven't tried filling from the atty end...guess you could try it. I like to count the drips tho...90-100 drops and good to Gogo all day. Ive heard they can hold even more, but i stop at 95 or so....Happy vaping.

 

[bmanchee]

Has anyone tried filling the Go-Go cartos with a needle tip, like one of these:
KR808 Needle Assembly
-OR-
5ml Syringe 18 Gauge blunt needle

I had good results filling 510 cartos this way, it was nice filling from the bottom. Dripping it in could get messy. But I'm not sure if there is any design difference that would prohibit this from working.

Hey Hippeh - I have a couple of blunt tip syringes lying around from when I was messing with CE2s, so I did try to fill a Go cart with one a couple of times. Not sure if it's really the best way to go about it, but it could probably work given some trial and error. My problem was that when the carto started to get full, it started dripping out the battery end of the carto. This usually happens if you overfill the carto, but when dripping normally into the carto I can see the top of the filler getting moist looking before it starts overfilling and dripping out of the bottom. With the syringe, i didn't get the "visual cue" that it was getting full before it spilled out.

Like I said though, I only tried a couple of times - I could have been filling too quickly (tried not to, though - lol) or something else. YMMV.

BTW - Grats on the Go-Go purchase! I'm hoping you love it as much as we do.

 

[brownsfan]

Hey brownsfan,

What flavor liquid (VG, PG, or VG/PG %) are you using? I too switch from Go-Go to Go-Go because I like alternating flavors while vaping. In the bad ol' days I wouldn't smoke a third of a Camel, put it out, and light up a Marlboro for a couple of drags, put it out, and then relight the Camel.

That'd be nuts.

But that's how I vape now ... because I can.

The particular juice that I over-vaped and killed the carto with was Tasty Vapor Cherry Cough Drop (Sweetened with sucralose) at about 70/30% PG/VG.

I'm hoping the issue was more my over-exuberance with my (current) favorite juice and my new Go-Go and if I take it a little easier by switching regularly I can get more life out of the carts. We'll see!

 

[blondeambition3]

What juices/flavours are you vaping?

24mg Marboro on the pre-filled Go-go Cartos - (This is the ONLY juice that really satisfies me right now... the rest are OK... but this, for me, is what meets my requirements for Vaping Nirvana)

Cignot's 24 mg RY4 & Marlboro
Nicotine Nirvana's 24 mg USA mix
Nicotine Nirvana's 24 mg Bourbon

Previously, these were all 'GREAT' liquids for dripping on any 510 atomizer system... but, the moment I just filled my 510 cartridges & vaped regular (no dripping)... they were 'good'.... but not excellent like dripping. Lately however, and I blamed it on my eGo-T attys and my 510 attys, because for me, all of these systems are so inconsistent... sometimes you get 'good' attys, other times, it's like 'whatever'.. what are you gonna do? You get what you get, you vape what you vape... you're an addict... it's a 'fix'... even when it's not 'perfect' it's still good right?
Anyhow, getting frustrated with the flavors suddenly seeming to be more 'muted' or 'less flavor-ful' than they used to be.... and I'm by NO means a chain vapor.. I give the taste buds a rest between vapes and I don't burn up my PV's like SOME people on this Forum are known to do... ... , I digress, my bad...

I get the Go-go 'hoping' the muted flavors of my juices will now 'sparkle' and they didn't ... so I 'taste-tested' them on all of my systems.. the Joye 510, my eGo-T and then my CE2 & 510 cartos... they improved 'slightly' on the eGo-T, but not by much... the rest of the systems? Not so much... so I start thinking... It's got to be the juices that are the problem.. in the past, usually when I got a new 510 system (with new attys) and the "pre-filled" CARTRIDGES the flavor, vapor & throat hit was always "consistently" good.... but you know those small 510 cartridges & how 'little' juice they hold right?.... within a few days I'm out of those & I'm re-filling with various juices from whoever I could find with good prices & decent reputation based on ECF Forum reviews & such.... but I did notice a difference, altho' subtle, and like I said previously, you vape what you vape/have. That's what made me decide to go ahead & purchase the Go-go prefilled Cartos from Cig-Easy... I figured, what the heck.. the juice is usually fantastic in those (at least I think they are... depends on the Company however... Joye's are usually always good)... Again, I digress. I purchased my Go-go system from NHaler (because Cig-Easy's were out of stock) and the Cartos are empty that come with their starter kit, so I would have found out from the get go it was the juice and not the Go-go had I been able to obtain a starter kit from Cig-Easy because their Kits come with the pre-filled Cartos.... For me, with this particular system.. (for every system I've owned to date)... the juice makes or breaks the vaping experience.. at least for me it does. If it isn't the right 'flavor' for you, the right nic strength, the right vapor or throat hit, well, then all you've got are some over-sized batteries and a lot of useless vapor... right?

I hope I explained this well. It's not easy articulating intangibles

 

[SSV2]

Has anyone tried filling the Go-Go cartos with a needle tip, like one of these:
KR808 Needle Assembly
-OR-
5ml Syringe 18 Gauge blunt needle

I had good results filling 510 cartos this way, it was nice filling from the bottom. Dripping it in could get messy. But I'm not sure if there is any design difference that would prohibit this from working.

I have been very successful at getting 3-ml in these Go-Carts providing you fill from the mouth piece end. I use a calibrated 5ml 1-1/2inch 21-gauge syringe and start by plunging needle all the way down to bottom of cart/ pumping aprrox. 1/2 ml at a time and rotating cart to ensure filler is saturated evenly.

I can easily get 2.5ml in at once before I might notice any liquid dripping out of battery end of cart. Usually very little if any..

I will wait about 15 minutes or so and then pump the remaining 1/2 ml in and have no excess leaking out at this point. Filler is completely saturated but not over filled!

I would not recommend filling these from battery end or even poking a paper clip or needle thru battery end because, atomizer sits horizontally in line with center tubing. These carts are unlike most standards where you can fill from battery end because, coil runs vertically up tube and usually will not be effected. Not the case here!

Results may vary depending on viscosity of e-liquid. I can easily get 3ml of any 100% PG based E-liquid without incident.

I have however, filled with several 50/50 blend's and achieved same result using syringe method.

Syringe filling is not for everyone! It is not a requirement.

The point is to keep it as simple as possible ...no fuss no muss!

If dripping works for most people then do whatever works best for you.

I have filled over 50 carts experimenting with a few different methods and using different ratios of PG/Vg e-liquid blends.. Dripping into mouth piece works fine.

I personally prefer the syringe simply because I can note consistancies from repeated fills.

Keep in mind that 20 drops do not actually equate to 1 ml unless we were dealing with distilled water?
I confirmed this by dripping directly into a small calibrated glass gradulated cylinder to measure accuracy of drops in relation to actual ml's.

This is why it is no surprise people are reporting they are getting anywhere from 80-120 drops to fill cart for the first time.

Les017 mentioned blowing into mouth piece end to clear excess liquid that could effect taste and works as a good follow up to topping off during repeated refills! It does work and also helps push any excess juice out of battery end of cart before you attach it back on battery.


Kudos to everyone that has contributed a lot of great info from their own personal experiences with the GO-GO as well the Ego T that has been very helpful to others just stumbling on this thread for the first time



SSV2

 

[les017]

SSV2-either OCD or certifiable.I'm undecided lol

 

[wigglr]

I have been very successful at getting 3-ml in these Go-Carts providing you fill from the mouth piece end. I use a calibrated 5ml 1-1/2inch 21-gauge syringe and start by plunging needle all the way down to bottom of cart/ pumping aprrox. 1/2 ml at a time and rotating cart to ensure filler is saturated evenly.

SSV2

This is exactly the method I was picturing in my head. I wouldn't mind doing it for a carto that takes 2.5 - 3 mL.
Where would i get the calibrated 5ml 1-1/2inch 21-gauge syringe?

 

[bmanchee]

Thanks for the input SSV - yeah, your syringe method is a bit more methodical than mine (stab and plunge ) I may have to try again and see how it works out.

 

[bmanchee]

This is exactly the method I was picturing in my head. I wouldn't mind doing it for a carto that takes 2.5 - 3 mL.
Where would i get the calibrated 5ml 1-1/2inch 21-gauge syringe?

I actually got my syringes (2-3 ml capacity, without needles) from the local Wal-Mart pharmacy - ask for "luer lock" syringes without the needle. Many e-cig and liquid suppliers are selling luer lock type blunt needles - i think mine is 19 gauge, probably inch and a half long.

BTW - don't know if you could call my syringes "calibrated" - the measurement markings wore off after about a day!

 

[wigglr]

Don't you need the needle to get down in there?

 

[SSV2]

This is exactly the method I was picturing in my head. I wouldn't mind doing it for a carto that takes 2.5 - 3 mL.
Where would i get the calibrated 5ml 1-1/2inch 21-gauge syringe?

I have some some glass syringes however....

Your local CVS or wal-mart Pharmacy Has the plastic disposible syringes for about .25 cents a piece.
You can get 1ml or 3ml syringes with 1 in 1-1/2 inch needles.

I picked up 5ml and 10ml syringes at MADVAPES that you can switch off the needles you get from CVS and put them on these bad boys!
5 ML LUER LOCK SYRINGE

10 ML LUER LOCK SYRINGE


Blunt needle optionLuar Lock 14 gauge 1.5 works great for straight VG
Luer Lock Needle 14 gauge 1.5"

Worth the investement if your doing DIY E-liquid making as well!

Helpful tip to avoid the ink on these plastics from smearing or rubbing off?
Get a piece of clear packing tape and wrap it around syringe where measurment is calibrated.

This works like a charm when your cleaning these and the print stays on for good!


SSV2

 

[mohawkx]

Here is the only place I could find 5ml. needles. They are having a big sale right now. EZ Refill Tool

I ordered 10 of them yesterday.

 

[Bamboo]

This GO-GO seems very nice. I personally have not tried it myself. But from reading what others have to say. Its seems very cost effective, good battery, and holds a lot of juice.

 

[Macromny]

I've been using the Go-Go now for about a week and I do like it. I haven't figured out the best liquid to use yet. The thicker liquids seem very difficult to top off a cart that's running low. After about 6 drops it's running out the bottom. This is definitely not due to the cart being full since it will have no flavor afterwards (empty or low). The thicker liquid seems to clog up the coil allowing the fluid to just run out. I am slowly experimenting with thinning it out with distilled water to see if it wicks better.

Has anyone else had issues with the batteries? Both of my batteries require a very firm press of the button to activate, and even then they sometimes don't fire. The light in the button is on but no power is being transmitted to the coil. At first I thought I had a bad battery but both of my units are doing the same thing. Never had this problem with the EGO or Riva.

Anyone else?

Boiled a couple of the carts last night to try to fix the bad wicking from the thick liquid. I hope it works. If not, the carts only last a few days (refills) and then lose most of their vapor action.

When they work THEY REALLY WORK absolutely blow the EGO-T away!

Anybody doing any mods to the carts yet? I mean other than the EGO-T mouthpiece (great idea by the way). Seems strange not having to do something to these to make em work. These are no fun at all, never get to use all the tools I had to have to make everything else work. Whats the vaping world coming too anyway?

 

[blondeambition3]

I've been using the Go-Go now for about a week and I do like it. I haven't figured out the best liquid to use yet. The thicker liquids seem very difficult to top off a cart that's running low. After about 6 drops it's running out the bottom. This is definitely not due to the cart being full since it will have no flavor afterwards (empty or low). The thicker liquid seems to clog up the coil allowing the fluid to just run out. I am slowly experimenting with thinning it out with distilled water to see if it wicks better.

Has anyone else had issues with the batteries? Both of my batteries require a very firm press of the button to activate, and even then they sometimes don't fire. The light in the button is on but no power is being transmitted to the coil. At first I thought I had a bad battery but both of my units are doing the same thing. Never had this problem with the EGO or Riva.

Anyone else?

Boiled a couple of the carts last night to try to fix the bad wicking from the thick liquid. I hope it works. If not, the carts only last a few days (refills) and then lose most of their vapor action.

When they work THEY REALLY WORK absolutely blow the EGO-T away!

Anybody doing any mods to the carts yet? I mean other than the EGO-T mouthpiece (great idea by the way). Seems strange not having to do something to these to make em work. These are no fun at all, never get to use all the tools I had to have to make everything else work. Whats the vaping world coming too anyway?

I have one Go-go Batt that has this 'activation' problem somewhat.. light is on but no power to the Carto.. (After a few 'presses' on that button it kicks in... certainly not a deal-breaker issue for me unless the 'batt' dies within a couple of weeks....
I also have had some Cartomizer 'issues' with my PG/VG based liquids... the thicker (more VG based) liquids do require more 'patience' on the refill.. (I use a very fine needle tipped syringe to inject the juices), or if you don't have a 'fine' needle tipped syringe you'll need to patiently drip around the carto rim until it's actually re-filled. The all PG based liquids.. no problem. My recommendation is get some PG at your local pharmacy, or use a few drops of Ever-Clear Vodka/ Alcohol to your existing liquids and see if that might help.

 

[ancient puffer]

FWIW: First of all, I am *not* recommending anyone do this, there's a good chance you'll ruin the carto, but it did work for me the one time I tried it.

I disassembled a carto that had a burnt taste (my bad, I over vaped it). I pulled the plug and removed 2 "pads" of wicking, and a plastic 'sleeve' that was over the coil. Washed out both pads, dried overnight. Then carefully re-wrapped them around the plastic sleeve and gingerly re-inserted down over the coil.

I refilled it part way, let the juice wick for a bit, then gave it a shot (at 3 bucks, no big deal). It worked, but I found the draw was tight. So, having gone this far, I figured it was no time to wimp out, so I carefully shoved a straighted paper clip up through the battery end. About half way up, I felt it "give" and figured I had destroyed the coil.

But much to my amazement, its working better than new! (I'm thinking, now, I may have pinched the plastic sleeve when I was wrapping the pads around it, next time I try, I'll do the paper clip part before I reinsert it)

Please please, only do this on a carto you're gonna trash anyway, but I'd be curious to know if this is workable, or if I was just "lucky"