Eleaf GS Air Fan

[pokemom]

Regarding the leak issues--Is it only with the GS M\MS series or the original GS AIR too?

I've never had a leak

I have two original GS Airs on two istick minis in my office at school. I've been home grading for 2 weeks. Went in last night, and both were still there, and absolutely no leaks, not even a drop on the center pin. The originals have given me no problems.

That said, I've not had leaking on my M or MS either. I do take a paper towel and "suck up" all juice in the base every time I fill them, and I vape above 10W (I know, I know - please don't throw me out of "the club"). Maybe these tanks require a little more power to keep them from flooding and leaking??

 

[Cheechako]

I have two original GS Airs on two istick minis in my office at school. I've been home grading for 2 weeks. Went in last night, and both were still there, and absolutely no leaks, not even a drop on the center pin. The originals have given me no problems.

That said, I've not had leaking on my M or MS either. I do take a paper towel and "suck up" all juice in the base every time I fill them, and I vape above 10W (I know, I know - please don't throw me out of "the club"). Maybe these tanks require a little more power to keep them from flooding and leaking??

Never been anyone kicked out...yet
Been my experience with these tanks too.
I think it's caused by Samsquatch!

 

[tiburonfirst]

nanny, check your pms!

 

[GranFumador]

nanny, check your pms!

That insinuation about Nanny and P M S was uncalled for Madama Tiburón.
Or have I committed a linguistic malapropism or mondegreen or eggcorn or something by misreading
Tibur on first, an obvious baseball reference!

I have two original GS Airs on two istick minis in my office at school. I've been home grading for 2 weeks. Went in last night, and both were still there, and absolutely no leaks, not even a drop on the center pin. The originals have given me no problems.

That said, I've not had leaking on my M or MS either. I do take a paper towel and "suck up" all juice in the base every time I fill them, and I vape above 10W. Maybe these tanks require a little more power to keep them from flooding and leaking??

I have had no leaks from the GS Air or the M, and I almost never vape above 9 watts.

Therefore, Sacagawea.

 

[Nanny22]

That insinuation about Nanny and P M S was uncalled for Madama Tiburón.
Or have I committed a linguistic malapropism or mondegreen or eggcorn or something by misreading
Tibur on first, an obvious baseball reference!



I have had no leaks from the GS Air or the M, and I almost never vape above 9 watts.

Therefore, Sacagawea.

Can I like this post ^^^^^ two times?? your wittiness Gran! (And I never know what to call you! ) Everyone who participates in this thread brings a smile. THX.

 

[Bikenstein]

That insinuation about Nanny and P M S was uncalled for Madama Tiburón.
Or have I committed a linguistic malapropism or mondegreen or eggcorn or something by misreading
Tibur on first, an obvious baseball reference!


.

^^^

 

[tiburonfirst]

bite your tongue, granny! i despise baseball!

 

[GranFumador]

Can I like this post ^^^^^ two times?? your wittiness Gran! (And I never know what to call you! ) Everyone who participates in this thread brings a smile. THX.

My Dear Nanny,
Please free to call me anything but Late for Dinner or Tibs Target.

 

[Bikenstein]

And all this time, I was readin it.......Tib, u r on first

 

[GranFumador]

And all this time, I was readin it.......Tib, u r on first

Interesting. That might imply that the stage manager was telling her to open for The Dead, or for Liberace.
On the off (Evers to tinker to) chance that someone doesn't know...tiburón is Spanish for shark.

 

[Cheechako]

bite your tongue, granny! i despise baseball!

Commie!

 

[GranFumador]

At the risk of being evicted by a smooth-bottomed Samsquatch, or being forced to vape escargot avec aubergine,
here is some semi-serious news about flooding GS Air coils.
Background:
The coil, while still producing good vapor and fine flavor, had been used in a GS Air for over a month!
The juice was not clear, but was fairly light, a fruit flavor.
The Air flow control screw was as open as possible without falling out.
Vaping normally in the 7.4 to 8.5 watts range.
The coil read 1.6 ohms.
Issue:
Flooding symptoms-juice coming through the drip tip, along with vapor. This was not condensation.
Actions:
1. Removed coil
2. Washed tank and tip
3. Replaced eleaf coil with ft coil, which is now absorbing new juice. Took Cheech's advice and put a few drops
of juice into the chimney first.
Observations:
1. There was a lot of juice on the bottom of the coil, and more in the well in the tank base.
2. The coil liner had begun to degrade, with wispy bit protruding through the openings in the side of the coil body.
3. The gromment on the coil pin, below the threads, was deformed.(Not as much as some eggplants we see around here from time to time, but still...)
4. There was absophlukkinlutely NO leakage from the bottom of the tank base. I applied my most rigorous, high-tech, analytical testing equipment—a folded Kleenex—to the bottom of the GS Air. There was no sign of juice from the hole in the tank pin or the surrounding o-ring.

Conclusion, based on a sample of i=1, is that tank leaks are more likely from a bad tank grommet/o-ring than from a funky coil. Or from gremlins...

 

[Cheechako]

At the risk of being evicted by a smooth-bottomed Samsquatch, or being forced to vape escargot avec aubergine,
here is some semi-serious news about flooding GS Air coils.
Background:
The coil, while still producing good vapor and fine flavor, had been used in a GS Air for over a month!
The juice was not clear, but was fairly light, a fruit flavor.
The Air flow control screw was as open as possible without falling out.
Vaping normally in the 7.4 to 8.5 watts range.
The coil read 1.6 ohms.
Issue:
Flooding symptoms-juice coming through the drip tip, along with vapor. This was not condensation.
Actions:
1. Removed coil
2. Washed tank and tip
3. Replaced eleaf coil with ft coil, which is now absorbing new juice. Took Cheech's advice and put a few drops
of juice into the chimney first.
Observations:
1. There was a lot of juice on the bottom of the coil, and more in the well in the tank base.
2. The coil liner had begun to degrade, with wispy bit protruding through the openings in the side of the coil body.
3. The gromment on the coil pin, below the threads, was deformed.(Not as much as some eggplants we see around here from time to time, but still...)
4. There was absophlukkinlutely NO leakage from the bottom of the tank base. I applied my most rigorous, high-tech, analytical testing equipment—a folded Kleenex—to the bottom of the GS Air. There was no sign of juice from the hole in the tank pin or the surrounding o-ring.

Conclusion, based on a sample of i=1, is that tank leaks are more likely from a bad tank grommet/o-ring than from a funky coil. Or from gremlins...

Examine your coil bottom o-rings if you have leakage?
Re-use bottom coil o-rings from a tank proven to be leak proof on those that have a tendency to leak?
Was there any obvious defect on the o-ring that was leaky?
Can it be this easy?
So your theory is that the juice leaks past the bottom o-ring, gets sucked up through the coil and floods?
I like it!

 

[Bikenstein]

Interesting. That might imply that the stage manager was telling her to open for The Dead, or for Liberace.
On the off (Evers to tinker to) chance that someone doesn't know...tiburón is Spanish for shark.

She would be more likely complaining about not opening the show, and the manager said "Tib, U R on first!" duck from pan

 

[GranFumador]

Examine your coil bottom o-rings if you have leakage?
Re-use bottom coil o-rings from a tank proven to be leak proof on those that have a tendency to leak?
Was there any obvious defect on the o-ring that was leaky?
Can it be this easy?
So your theory is that the juice leaks past the bottom o-ring, gets sucked up through the coil and floods?
I like it!

Not sure I would call it a theory quite yet. And terminology is a problem.
Looking at the bottom of a coil, I see two white, rubber-like rings. The one nearest the coil body is an o-ring.
It appears intact. Moving down to the bottom of the coil, there are threads, and then a wider white rubber band. I'm calling this the grommet. I think you had two of them showing in your photo. That's the item that was deformed. I see dark brown gunk between it and the very bottom of the coil assembly, the part with the split cylinder with the hole in it.
The obvious defect is that the shape has been altered by use,age, abuse. It no longer has a snug fit to the metal.
Dammm...this precise communication is difficult.

Edit- and all of this ONLY tries to explain flooding. Leakage is, by deduction, a function of a faulty GS Air component.

 

[GranFumador]

"Tib, U R on first!" duck from pan

Guess that explains it.

 

[Cheechako]

Not sure I would call it a theory quite yet. And terminology is a problem.
Looking at the bottom of a coil, I see two white, rubber-like rings. The one nearest the coil body is an o-ring.
It appears intact. Moving down to the bottom of the coil, there are threads, and then a wider white rubber band. I'm callinf this the grommet. I think you had two of them showing in your photo. That's the item that was deformed. I see dark brown gunk betwee it and the very bottom of the coil assembly, the part with the split cylinder with the hole in it.
The obvious defect is that the shape has been altered by use,age, abuse. It no longer has a snug fit to the metal.
Dammm...this precise communication is difficult.

The bottom grommet on the coil is discolored and deformed?
Discoloration can come from heat, but these coils that are stock have conductive wires from the
grommet to the actual coil with the wick...must be discolored by juice.
Back to square one if the indications are that the leak is coming from the bottom of the coil
and not the upper o-ring being damaged or deformed.
C'mon Dr. Bikenstein, add to this...

 

[IMRs]

At the risk of being evicted by a smooth-bottomed Samsquatch, or being forced to vape escargot avec aubergine,
here is some semi-serious news about flooding GS Air coils.
Background:
The coil, while still producing good vapor and fine flavor, had been used in a GS Air for over a month!
The juice was not clear, but was fairly light, a fruit flavor.
The Air flow control screw was as open as possible without falling out.
Vaping normally in the 7.4 to 8.5 watts range.
The coil read 1.6 ohms.
Issue:
Flooding symptoms-juice coming through the drip tip, along with vapor. This was not condensation.
Actions:
1. Removed coil
2. Washed tank and tip
3. Replaced eleaf coil with ft coil, which is now absorbing new juice. Took Cheech's advice and put a few drops
of juice into the chimney first.
Observations:
1. There was a lot of juice on the bottom of the coil, and more in the well in the tank base.
2. The coil liner had begun to degrade, with wispy bit protruding through the openings in the side of the coil body.
3. The gromment on the coil pin, below the threads, was deformed.(Not as much as some eggplants we see around here from time to time, but still...)
4. There was absophlukkinlutely NO leakage from the bottom of the tank base. I applied my most rigorous, high-tech, analytical testing equipment—a folded Kleenex—to the bottom of the GS Air. There was no sign of juice from the hole in the tank pin or the surrounding o-ring.

Conclusion, based on a sample of i=1, is that tank leaks are more likely from a bad tank grommet/o-ring than from a funky coil. Or from gremlins...

Or another possibility?

 

[GranFumador]

The bottom grommet on the coil is discolored and deformed?
Discoloration can come from heat, but these coils that are stock have conductive wires from the
grommet to the actual coil with the wick...must be discolored by juice.
Back to square one if the indications are that the leak is coming from the bottom of the coil
and not the upper o-ring being damaged or deformed.
C'mon Dr. Bikenstein, add to this...

Yeah...
You have taken these things apart; I haven't. I think the flooding is coming from the degradation of the grommet> juice leaking down>
juice pooling below the coil> juice getting sucked up through the coil into the chimney. The o-ring is not discolored or deformed at all. The grommet is.
And because of this, Bristol is available again, in a PG/VG blend tbd.

 

[Bikenstein]

Guess that explains it.

Lol. "Duck from Pan" What about...

Why is he always flying? Because he Never Lands