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GranFumador

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We just call em commodes down here in Alabama :)
Up here in Maine we call 'em crappers or—if you're old—half moon houses. Except the tourists. They say odd stuff like, "Could you direct me to the euphemism, please?"
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Why???

My duals last for weeks...
Sorry. Just edited the last post as you were replying, apparently. Basically, those little coils and the thin kanthal in them have more of a perpensity to change resistance over time because the wire is so thin. Also, after a while, the resistance in one coil is likely to change more rapidly than the other and that throws the overall resistance for a loop. And if one fails, you have a single 3.0 ohm coil.
 

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Up here in Maine we call 'em crappers or—if you're old—half moon houses. Except the tourists. They say odd stuff like, "Could you direct me to the euphemism, please?"
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What'd that moose just do in there?
 

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Something to keep in mind is that the dual 3.0 ohm coils will fail far more quickly than the single 1.2 ohm coil in the new heads. If one of those coils pops or changes resistance, the resistance of the whole head is out of whack.

I had the experience of one of the coils failing and ending up with a 3 ohm coil. But guess what? The flavor improved immensely and I kept vaping on it for over a week. At the very same wattage. :D
 

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Sorry. Just edited the last post as you were replying, apparently. Basically, those little coils and the thin kanthal in them have more of a perpensity to change resistance over time because the wire is so thin. Also, after a while, the resistance in one coil is likely to change more rapidly than the other and that throws the overall resistance for a loop. And if one fails, you have a single 3.0 ohm coil.

What gauge is the wire in the verticals? Never saw one. But I can assure you that if you as much as singe your cotton that is wrapped tightly around that hot coil, your atty is toast--no pun intended. :)
 

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    I agree. Honestly, those coils are so nice that I don't even bother to rebuild them. They deliver great flavor and great performance, hassle-free. They can be easily cleaned and reused many times. And since I own a couple of RBAs that I like, I rebuild those--when I feel like rebuilding. My Airs (1.5Ω DC) and my Aerotanks are my favorite go-to, on-the-run, plug and play devices.

    And that is Why I was kinda Curious about the Dry Burning.

    Because (on average) many of the people I see someone using a Head type Tank are doing so because they Don't want to Rebuild things. They want the Convenience of using a Head until it doesn't Taste Good, and then Plugging in a New Head to get back to Vaping.

    I've tried both the Silica and the Organic Cotton wick heads. I Didn't see a Huge Difference in Taste/Vapor for the e-Liquids/Wattages that I used in them.

    So if someone came to me and Asked which one should they Get? And they Told me that they Didn't have a Desire to rebuild them. I would Probably Recommend the Silica Wick Heads. Because they would have the Option to Dry Burn them if they Wanted to Try It.
     

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    I did extensive attempts to dry burn Air dual coils prior to rebuilding with varied success...
    If I dry burned and then flushed the coil with water down the chimney with a syringe, then dry burned again.
    I would get almost acceptable results.
    Upon removing the cap and examining the liner and coil, gave it up as a lost cause and figured out
    how to rebuild...
    Removal of the cap and liner may facilitate dry burning as an alternative, but going down that path I decided
    rebuilding was the better choice. ;)
    Me too. Never had a lot of luck dry burning coils, regardless of wick material. The burnt off crap has nowhere to go except into the wick. Rebuilding usually turns out to be easier in the long run and generally produces better-than-factory results.
     
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    Me too. Never had a lot of luck dry burning coils, regardless of wick material. The burnt off crap has nowhere to go except into the wick. Rebuilding usually turns out to ne easier in the long run and generally produces better-than-factory results.

    You need to rinse off the ash after you dry burn.
     

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    I had the experience of one of the coils failing and ending up with a 3 ohm coil. But guess what? The flavor improved immensely and I kept vaping on it for over a week. At the very same wattage. :D
    Same here. Flavor improved, but... vapor volume decreased a lot.
     

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    I did extensive attempts to dry burn Air dual coils prior to rebuilding with varied success...
    If I dry burned and then flushed the coil with water down the chimney with a syringe, then dry burned again.
    I would get almost acceptable results.
    Upon removing the cap and examining the liner and coil, gave it up as a lost cause and figured out
    how to rebuild...
    Removal of the cap and liner may facilitate dry burning as an alternative, but going down that path I decided
    rebuilding was the better choice. ;)

    Yeah... I'm a Veteran of the CE2's days. And have tried Many Different Dry Burning techniques on them.

    I found that a Good Flush using Hot Tap Water and then a Shake/Blow/Fan Dry followed by a Dry Burn worked about the Best also.
     

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    What gauge is the wire in the verticals? Never saw one. But I can assure you that if you as much as singe your cotton that is wrapped tightly around that hot coil, your atty is toast--no pun intended. :)
    Agreed. No dry burning with cotton. The wire looks to be about 30 gage. Maybe 28. All of the ones I've gutted have been used, though and have gunk on them, so it's difficult to be more precise.
     
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    Hey...anyone happen to have a coupon code for Sweet-Vapes? I want to now try and M and an MS now and I never buy vape stuff until I've looked for a coupon code.

    It is correct that the M and MS take the same coil heads as the original GS Air?
     

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    Basically, those little coils and the thin kanthal in them have more of a perpensity to change resistance over time because the wire is so thin. Also, after a while, the resistance in one coil is likely to change more rapidly than the other and that throws the overall resistance for a loop. And if one fails, you have a single 3.0 ohm coil.
    Right, and if you have set your mod to watts, the voltage will jump, the remaining coil will gunk up quickly, and the infamous "no atomiser" display will appear, as if by magic!
     

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    Hey...anyone happen to have a coupon code for Sweet-Vapes? I want to now try and M and an MS now and I never buy vape stuff until I've looked for a coupon code.

    It is correct that the M and MS take the same coil heads as the original GS Air?

    They don't have any--sometimes that have sales, but not very often. But their prices are fair and they are a good vendor.

    The Air, M, MS, and GS tank take the same coils.
     

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    Hey...anyone happen to have a coupon code for Sweet-Vapes? I want to now try and M and an MS now and I never buy vape stuff until I've looked for a coupon code.

    It is correct that the M and MS take the same coil heads as the original GS Air?
    Have had some juice coupons from S-V, but nothing for hardware in a loooooong time.
    Same coils work in all four GS clearos.
     
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