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tiburonfirst

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Wish this was available now. Wonder why it's not..

ecopure was always one of the most expensive liquids - wonder how close the 'vype' liquids are to ecopure. :?:
vype seems to be the successor to intellicig according to the blog
 

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an e-liquid from the uk - lab-tested from the get-go - and for a time available in the us through intellicigusa but no longer :(

What is ECOpure E-liquid
I think Rize Vapor still carries them. The name changed to EcoVape. Here's a link to their 30ml bottle page. They also offer 10 and 5ml bottles...
30ml RiZe e-liquid

They offer a 15% military discount forevever, if that applies to you. I've been a customer for a while.
 

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Just stopping it to say HI! After finally catching up...you guys were super chatty this weeked. I myself was in hiding yesterday, doing whatever my cats wanted me to do, in hopes of avoiding the Zombie Ca... Don't want to say the whole word, lest they are listening.

Did get my GS-M and GS-MS in the mail yesterday and love the looks of both of them! Just filled up the M with some Cinnamon Danish and will be trying it out shortly. Man, it holds A LOT of liquid!

Hope everyone has a wonderful, lazy Sunday!
 

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very interesting ;)

and since we're at diy - i'm curious if any diy'ers ever managed to duplicate the ecopure? it still is the only e-liquid i've had no reaction to :(
what kind of reactions do you have with other eliquids? I presume you have tried a lot, PG vs VG, being a pro here and all. Is it ok if I call you a Pro, tibs? haha :ohmy:
I found this, but reviews say this "ECOvape" isn't even close to being what ECOpure was. I saw a youtube review on ECOpure the reviewer said it was terrible, haha. But we each have our own tastes, don't we. :)
ECO e-Liquid
 

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I think Rize Vapor still carries them. The name changed to EcoVape. Here's a link to their 30ml bottle page. They also offer 10 and 5ml bottles...
30ml RiZe e-liquid

They offer a 15% military discount forevever, if that applies to you. I've been a customer for a while.

not sure if the original formula carried over since ecovape is supposed to have been developed in the states

''
ECOvape has been developed here in the USA with the intention of providing the purest e-liquid with the fewest ingredients possible. As with all our e-liquid, we avoid the use of Propylene Glycol as a base, as used in most other e-liquid. ECOvape contains pure organic ingredients, 100% Kosher VG and 99.8 pure Nicotine!
This is a Vegetable Glycerol or VG based e-liquid, no PG used!
ECOvape is the newest e-liquid from Intellicig-USA.com and we offer the e-liquid in a number of simple NEW flavors to maintain its clean and pure taste. The ECOvape e-liquid line has been kept simple due to the requests from customers for a clean, pure eliquid in which they can trust the contents.
ECOvape contains no Propylene Glycol and uses the fewest ingredients.''



yup :(
 

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not sure if the original formula carried over since ecovape is supposed to have been developed in the states

''
ECOvape has been developed here in the USA with the intention of providing the purest e-liquid with the fewest ingredients possible. As with all our e-liquid, we avoid the use of Propylene Glycol as a base, as used in most other e-liquid. ECOvape contains pure organic ingredients, 100% Kosher VG and 99.8 pure Nicotine!
This is a Vegetable Glycerol or VG based e-liquid, no PG used!
ECOvape is the newest e-liquid from Intellicig-USA.com and we offer the e-liquid in a number of simple NEW flavors to maintain its clean and pure taste. The ECOvape e-liquid line has been kept simple due to the requests from customers for a clean, pure eliquid in which they can trust the contents.
ECOvape contains no Propylene Glycol and uses the fewest ingredients.''




yup :(
Not sure... Might be worth an email to Rize... their customer support is fairly quick to respond.
 

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Just stopping it to say HI! After finally catching up...you guys were super chatty this weeked. I myself was in hiding yesterday, doing whatever my cats wanted me to do, in hopes of avoiding the Zombie Ca... Don't want to say the whole word, lest they are listening.

Did get my GS-M and GS-MS in the mail yesterday and love the looks of both of them! Just filled up the M with some Cinnamon Danish and will be trying it out shortly. Man, it holds A LOT of liquid!

Hope everyone has a wonderful, lazy Sunday!
Anxious to see how you like them compared to the GS Air. I still favor the GS Air because of the AFC. I would like the M best if it had a similar AFC with more air than the GS Air original.:2c: I may try the new tank made for TC
 

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very interesting ;)

and since we're at diy - i'm curious if any diy'ers ever managed to duplicate the ecopure? it still is the only e-liquid i've had no reaction to :(
This site appears to list at least some of the ingredients in ECOpure, though the totals exclude something, flavorings i guess. I would think if it had any PG it would be listed, so I doubt that it does. If this liquid was made for the ecig cartomizer cartridges, that wouldn't surprise me, I think a lot of those are PG.
E-Liquid Ingredients
 

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not sure if the original formula carried over since ecovape is supposed to have been developed in the states

''
ECOvape has been developed here in the USA with the intention of providing the purest e-liquid with the fewest ingredients possible. As with all our e-liquid, we avoid the use of Propylene Glycol as a base, as used in most other e-liquid. ECOvape contains pure organic ingredients, 100% Kosher VG and 99.8 pure Nicotine!
This is a Vegetable Glycerol or VG based e-liquid, no PG used!
ECOvape is the newest e-liquid from Intellicig-USA.com and we offer the e-liquid in a number of simple NEW flavors to maintain its clean and pure taste. The ECOvape e-liquid line has been kept simple due to the requests from customers for a clean, pure eliquid in which they can trust the contents.
ECOvape contains no Propylene Glycol and uses the fewest ingredients.''




yup :(
So I wouldn't be able to use this liquid unless it was altered and then it wouldn't be pure. Anything over 60-65% gives me a swamp lung feeling. I have to use an inhaler to be able to breathe after vaping anything over 65%.
 

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what kind of reactions do you have with other eliquids? I presume you have tried a lot, PG vs VG, being a pro here and all. Is it ok if I call you a Pro, tibs? haha :ohmy:
I found this, but reviews say this "ECOvape" isn't even close to being what ECOpure was. I saw a youtube review on ECOpure the reviewer said it was terrible, haha. But we each have our own tastes, don't we. :)
ECO e-Liquid

i would be very much surprised if intellicig parted with their formula - and as to my allergies > mostly to pg but also to flavorings and alcohol. i turned into a racoon a few times :facepalm:
btw - never had an allergy in my life before vaping :?:
 

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So I wouldn't be able to use this liquid unless it was altered and then it wouldn't be pure. Anything over 60-65% gives me a swamp lung feeling. I have to use an inhaler to be able to breathe after vaping anything over 65%.

you might have been in for a surprise, lynn - not all vg e-liquids are created equal ;)

but it's too late anyhow .......... sigh
 

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Anxious to see how you like them compared to the GS Air. I still favor the GS Air because of the AFC. I would like the M best if it had a similar AFC with more air than the GS Air original.:2c: I may try the new tank made for TC

Well, so far I prefer the M. Keep in mind that I prefer a less airy draw, so I have the AFC all the way closed. :) And, I'm still waiting on my tiny screwdriver from Fasttech, so I haven't adjusted the AF on the original from the way it came. I think I will be able to better pick a favorite once I am able to play with the AF on the original.
 

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Anxious to see how you like them compared to the GS Air. I still favor the GS Air because of the AFC. I would like the M best if it had a similar AFC with more air than the GS Air original.:2c: I may try the new tank made for TC
The Tank has SLIGHTLY more air flow, but nothing particularly noticeable. The big difference is that it's a bit quiter than the M and MS... it doesn't hiss as much. Your bottleneck is the air flow in and out of the coil, unfortunately... those holes are tiny.
 

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This site appears to list at least some of the ingredients in ECOpure, though the totals exclude something, flavorings i guess. I would think if it had any PG it would be listed, so I doubt that it does. If this liquid was made for the ecig cartomizer cartridges, that wouldn't surprise me, I think a lot of those are PG.
E-Liquid Ingredients
According to the site (old and new), the stuff is just kosher VG, 99.8% pure nic (if applicable), and the mystery flavoring. That's the tough part to figure out.

If the VG quality is an issue that causes problems, lots of sites sell kosher VG at up to 99.7% purity. Most offer it by the gallon for something like $30-40. Insofar as nic, I'd recommend nude nicotine. Their stuff is really pure and clean. For flavoring, who knows? I never vaped ecopure and can't speak to its flavor qualities so I can't even venture a guess as to the flavorings.
 

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So I wouldn't be able to use this liquid unless it was altered and then it wouldn't be pure. Anything over 60-65% gives me a swamp lung feeling. I have to use an inhaler to be able to breathe after vaping anything over 65%.
According to the intellicig site, ecopure contained only four ingredients and zero PG... That's VG, Nic, Flavoring, and a fourth ingredient... I'd imagine that 4th ingredient was pure, distilled water to thin out the VG.

Sounds like you might have issues with the viscosity of VG... the stuff IS pretty thick. With any VG heavy liquid, I'd add a little PURE distilled water to it to thin it to a 50/50 consistency. A good amount for this is about 8% distilled water. In other words, in a 100ml bottle, use 8ml water. Easy math for this is to take the bottle size you buy (let's say 30ml in this case) and multiply by 1.08 (search "30 * 1.08" in google if you don't have a calculator handy ) this gives you 32.4 ml. That's an extra 2.4 ml of distilled water you'll add to the 30 ml you bought. Most fresh bottles have at least this much free space, right out of the box. Add, shake REALLY well for a couple of minutes, and voila: thinner VG juice with no other crap added.

With that 4th mystery ingredient I'm pretty sure this is how intellicig did their thing.

For pure water, grocery stores sell distilled water by the gallon for about a buck. If you want more pure water, go to the baby section of the store and get the infant drinking water.

Insofar as flavor replication, can't help you there: never vaped the stuff. I'd recommend getting a VG based flavor concentrate. MyVapeJuice has tons of them.
 

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The Tank has SLIGHTLY more air flow, but nothing particularly noticeable. The big difference is that it's a bit quiter than the M and MS... it doesn't hiss as much. Your bottleneck is the air flow in and out of the coil, unfortunately... those holes are tiny.
That's true. I wish they would provide a larger flow through the centerpin of the coil head, but it's already max for it's size...otherwise I would have drilled one out. I like the screw adjustment better even though I ended up taking it out after a while:)
 

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So I wouldn't be able to use this liquid unless it was altered and then it wouldn't be pure. Anything over 60-65% gives me a swamp lung feeling. I have to use an inhaler to be able to breathe after vaping anything over 65%.
Also, it looks like the EcoVape line is made the same way, maybe sans the water. I've purchased Rize liquids before (never the EcoVape line) and they're REALLY thick, pure VG juices. Might be worth picking up a 30ml bottle and adding 2 and a half milliliters of DI water to it and see if it's what you're after.
 
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