Electronic Charge Uptake Device?

[Porphy]

Howdy Modders!

I've been thinking about battery size and I got to reminiscing ... as people my age usually do.

Story time!

"back in the day" I used to work on heliocopter engines. As newer versions came out they had electronic devices that needed an initial charge to operate before the turbine achieved "self sufficiency" in operation. (umm ok they basically needed a power supply until the engine was rotating fast enough to be self sustaining in operation.

Anywho, to solve this issue we had what we called "capacitors" on the engines for the electronics and APU's for the engines mechanical parts...but we're focusing on the capacitors.

The idea of our "capacitors" (we called them FC's - flux capacitors because we were all geeks and they looked similar to the Back to the Future version) was that it drew surplus energy into itself during engine operation to help provide electricity later on when you wanted to start the engine again. Basically a rechargeable battery, but they took up electricity really fast (we're talking seconds instead of hours) but had a much shorter "staying power" in comparison to a battery.

So this got me thinking.... (end of story time)

Battery sizes! Everyone here wants to build a better mousetrap and I figured I'd get to brain storming.

Is there a device that mimics my "capacitor" on a smaller scale? This is my idea.

A "capacitor" or electronic uptake device that could draw quickly from a larger source into a smaller battery for use. Basically have a smaller battery mod with the power of the bigger ones by simply having the batteries in a different location like on your belt or purse. When the capacitor runs dry just plug the e-cig back into the main unit (where the real battery is), count to 5, and start vaping again.

This also has some intrinsic safety value to it as well, but feel free to correct my line of thinking or tell me I'm waaay off canter.

My line of thinking is in retaining the bigger better battery but keeping it separate from the slimmer e-cig and more hidden bringing our mods back to "penstyle" while retaining the power.

 

[Lazarus]

Large capacitors are usually used to increase potential to start inductive devices (electic motors, etc.) in AC circuits. In DC circuits they are used for numerous voltage "smoothing" and filtering functions.

I think the application you are thinking about would need a much larger device than you would like, probably bigger than the li-ion battery.

 

[Ralph Hilton]

I have a capacitor that could supply the current for an atomizer for 0.6 seconds which is 2cm x 0.7cm . The technology needs to advance a bit for what you suggest.

 

[Porphy]

I'm just that advanced....




Thanks for setting my thinking straight guys.

 

[h8isgr8]

There are "super capacitors" and "ultra capacitors" that act like a battery/capacitor hybrid.

http://www.cooperbussmann.com/pdf/622e3203-c004-4016-a467-ed7c3b98b5f0.pdf

They don't store a lot of energy for their size though, so I don't see what the advantage over a lithium battery would be in this situation.

 

[Porphy]

My original thought process was that the capacitor would be inefficient but that their ability to uptake electricity quickly was the advantage. So in essence you have a PV mount, lets say on your belt. You plug the e-cig into the mount. The mount holds your LiIon battery and the eigs configuration is cart-->atty-->capacitor.

It was my hope that you could put a quick charge on an e-cig during it's operational downtime (every time you stop vaping just slip it back into it's mount or carrying case and the capacitor draws up the next load for vaping.)

This wouldn't be a good idea for heavy vapers like myself, but I know my mother and a few friends who take three puffs and put it down for quite awhile. This would allow them to retain a smaller sized e-cig but keep a longer use between battery charges.

Back to the brainstorming board for me.