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Electronic cigarettes just banned in my office
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I'm horrible for laughing at that. I have an office but there are cubes too, and this guy would go out to secret smoke (the CEO hates it, so nobody does it anywhere on property) and he used Axe to cover it up. When I saw him walk by my office to go out, I'd get up and shut my door immediately. I finally told him "you smell like Axe and smoke...everyone knows what you're doing".
In the 15 years I've worked here, I've NEVER even read our company handbook! LOL
Aren't we all lucky to have on ECF the great arbiter of what behavior and actions are correct and which ones are not. The FDA is looking for some additional egoists/bureaucrats to impose their definition of what is right and wrong on society. Something to consider.
It's starting to feel that way, isn't it?! Except for our fearless leader "O"... He's exempt from the laws of the land.
assuming you're referring to the signing statements thing...
It's been around since President Monroe. Up until Reagan, there had been 75 SS's all totaled. Reagan, Bush and Clinton had 247 between the three of them.
W issued 161 signing statements affecting over 1,100 provisions of law in 160 Congressional enactments.
O has issued 21 signing statements affecting 85 specified provisions and making six mentions of unspecified provisions of law in 20 Congressional enactments.
I'd say our 'fearless leader' is being pretty conservative so far.
Oh.... don't feel bad! He'd love that we are getting a laugh at his expense.
Exact same thing this guy did. He'd smoke and splash on the old spice. A horrible combination.
Not necessarily. I think what you meant is that a rule in a workplace cannot BREAK a law, but that doesn't mean that the rules at work must also be laws in place at state or federal level; definitely not true.
You are confusing 'definitive' with anecdotal. A definitive statement would have been: "All companies have policies concerning perfumes/colognes."
Which is not what I said. At all.
What I provided was anecdotal, a.k.a. personal experience- which is the same as what you've provided. That is your experience, I provided mine. Anecdotal statements do not require supporting evidence, logically it is considered subjective testimony.
I don't think so. I'm pretty sure that if the law, whether on state or federal level, is broken by any rules in your workplace then they wouldn't have to be followed or could at least be fought in court. But your place of employment CAN make rules that aren't laws already, such as no vaping inside and no pornography on your computer.
Well, it bites. Sorry to hear, but it is their privilege.
Has nothing to do with right or wrong. more of being politically correct. I doubt a company that had 20 vaping employees and 1 that did not would be so quick to bow to perceived correctness. Then again what do I know.
The one place I feel companies are Breaking some law would be concerning protecting employee Health.
Any company forcing a Vaper to be herded in a confined area with smokers is deliberately exposing Non-smokers to second hand smoke.
Sooner or later the Suites will hit the fan.
Has nothing to do with right or wrong. more of being politically correct. I doubt a company that had 20 vaping employees and 1 that did not would be so quick to bow to perceived correctness. Then again what do I know.
The one place I feel companies are Breaking some law would be concerning protecting employee Health.
Any company forcing a Vaper to be herded in a confined area with smokers is deliberately exposing Non-smokers to second hand smoke.
Sooner or later the Suites will hit the fan.
I think being considerate of others is actually a really great way to act, so yes. We need more of this.
It is legal to drink alcohol if you are over 21 in the US. Well, that may change soon. Anyway.. Most businesses do not allow the consumption of alcohol on company time and some even at company events. To do so would be immediate release. So while it may be legal to consume alcohol you risk being canned at the work place. You can still drink alcohol you just won't be under that business' employment.
So they aren't necessarily banning it. For the privilege to work for their company you must follow their rules. Many states have a no indoor smoking policy. States are not sure what to do. They were too busy figuring out how to ream the taxpayer after the feds reamed the states... this caught them off guard now they are scrambling because... "We Must Control".
I get it drummerskey and Tina, I really do. As long as a company is within the confines of the law, they can get away with it. I guess I'm wondering where does it stop? What are they going to test for next as a "justified" reason to deny someone employment? Let's face it, no one is guaranteed immortality. We all are going to die and plenty of us will likely have health issues in our later years regardless of whether we've taken care of bodies or not.
I was exposed to tobacco smoke second hand for most of my life and long before I became a smoker myself. Was there enough in my system to show up if I was tested? Who knows? Have I had problems as a result of that? As I think back, it's possible. I guess the ideology of being eliminated as a prospect for employment just because of nicotine or tobacco, despite being qualified, just bothers me. :shrug:
Live well, Love hard, Laugh often & Vape on!
Sucks for sure... but I agree with your employer on the ban. I vape in my office all day and there is a constant cloud in here. Not to mention there is a discernable odor depending on the juices I vape. Lastly there are 3 co-workers in my office area that claim they have a PG allergy...which I believe...because when they enter my office, they sneeze and beging having major sinus issues. My solution was to ban THEM from coming into my office and we now meet in a conference room when needed.
Look...just because they don't reak like a cigarette and cause cancer...doesn't mean you can vape it anywhere. A little common sense that vaping may annoy people...like when they walk into a big cloud of your recently exhaled vape. That being said, if you have a bathroom at work it's probably where I'd go to have a few hits every hour.
Look...just because they don't reak like a cigarette and cause cancer...doesn't mean you can vape it anywhere. A little common sense that vaping may annoy people...like when they walk into a big cloud of your recently exhaled vape. That being said, if you have a bathroom at work it's probably where I'd go to have a few hits every hour.
Lastly there are 3 co-workers in my office area that claim they have a PG allergy...which I believe...because when they enter my office, they sneeze and beging having major sinus issues. My solution was to ban THEM from coming into my office and we now meet in a conference room when needed.
This.....lol!
Live well, Love hard, Laugh often & Vape on!
It's a bit scary, how prospective employers are encraaoching on the life style of their prospective employees.
Not just in relation to vaping.
Guess those days where you signed up for x hours of work in exchange for y amount of bucks and npbpdy gave a dammn about your private life are going. Nowadays they expect you to sign over your soul as well it seems.
Well, too late for that. Signed away already to some fella with red skin and funny protrusions on his head, luring me with some mods
This 100%. It may be stupid but it's their right to make stupid decisions. It is also your right not to work for them if you don't want to. If not vaping in your office is that big of a deal, go find a job that lets you do that. Or start your own business and do whatever you want in your office.
And to the OP...this may seem like a bad policy but think with me a little here. Sitting at your desk for long periods of time is bad news mang. I try to take a walk around the office every 2 hours just to get my blood flowing. Look for as many times as you can to get up and walk around. I know I went off on a tangent here but I was just having a conversation with a friend last night about how bad it is to be sedentary for extended periods of time. Research has come out recently confirming this. Also, sometimes its not so bad to make yourself wait. The vape is that much more rewarding...I promise. I do this every day. But yeah I understand you don't like the policy.
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You have every right to be bothered but if I did own a business, I would hope I could make whatever policies I wanted. It is, after all; my money and my business. I also think I should be able to do pretty much anything I want as long as I do not harm others but I would expect that much freedom to come with a cost somewhere. Sadly, we don't really have real freedoms anymore; we have distractions
I don't personally agree with companies denying employment based on nicotine use, credit checks, criminal backgrounds (to a degree) and you can protest it but at the expense of a job. That is the reality.
Was I mad for a few minutes when they said I couldn't vape indoors any more? Sure............but vaping isn't a freedom. It is an allowance and before anyone gets high and mighty about our ability to do so (not saying anyone here is), there is plenty of other freedoms we have already lost that A. We should be fighting for too and B. put us on the road and put us in this exact situation.
This Isn't the first time that e-Cigarette use has been Restricted because of that. And it Isn't going to be the Last.
And it is a Good Example of how a Vaper can Give All Vaper's a Bad Name.
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