ELiquidmjflavored juice What the Heck

[GrapeChaser]

[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Icame across this review on a new E-juice that is hitting the marketEliquidmj flavor and it has me scared that this is where some might betaking E-cigarettes to What next a little PG and some X an away you go? Don\t get me wrong I'm very 420 friendly but where do youdraw the line? [/FONT]


“[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Thise-liquid i have to say it does not have ... in it, is a relaxationformula containing tryptophan, melatonin and gaba. The tryptophanhelps the brain to increase levels of serotonin, the melatonin is anover the counter hormone that can be found at the vitamin shelves ofany drug store and is used as a sleeping aid, the gaba is aneurotransmitter this three ingredients are added to a mix of propylglycol and vegetable glycerin.”[/FONT]


[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Tryptophan:a supplement you can buy at a health food store or eat a turkeydinner[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]melatonin:is used in all sorts of over the counter sleep aid medications.[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Gaba:[/FONT][FONT=arial, sans-serif](brandnames Fanatrex, Gabarone, Gralise, Neurontin, Nupentin) is apharmaceutical drug[/FONT][FONT=arial, sans-serif].Used to control seizures and pain relief for cancer patience..[/FONT]


[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Whatthe ....... . I have made some pretty weird concoctions and put it in mye-cig and vape'd it but I have never had the balls to try and sell iton the internet to the public. I would think stuff like this is whatgives us a bad name? [/FONT]

 

[Song]

It probably will give us bad publicity if it gets around. People will start labeling vapers as drug addicts which is bad because that gives more ammo to HC.

 

[CCC]

This is stupid, i hope the manufacturers get shut down really fast, please nobody support the people selling this item.

 

[twtmc]

*sigh* calm down guys, not everything you don't understand is a bad thing, and not everything you aren't used to is going to ruin your precious reputation. Triptophan and Melatonin aren't exactly "hardcore drugs", they are essential amino acids. Last I checked, the term "Essential Amino Acids" rang positively with most people. Why is this a bad thing suddenly but the caffeine e-juice is okay?

Seriously, you might as well be getting mad about a juice with a daily supply of vitamin C because it's called "liquid X"

 

[kanadiankat]

Anything that is health or pharma related in eliquid changes the classification of the device used with it from a "consumer electronic with common consumer and food grade approved ingredients" to that of a "medical device requiring a special license and full new-product-testing".

The US vendors had to fight hard against that classification in court. They won.

We're still struggling through the same fight in Canada.

 

[Song]

*sigh* calm down guys, not everything you don't understand is a bad thing, and not everything you aren't used to is going to ruin your precious reputation. Triptophan and Melatonin aren't exactly "hardcore drugs", they are essential amino acids. Last I checked, the term "Essential Amino Acids" rang positively with most people. Why is this a bad thing suddenly but the caffeine e-juice is okay?

Seriously, you might as well be getting mad about a juice with a daily supply of vitamin C because it's called "liquid X"

People usually don't look at that, they just look at the name of the name of the product and see mj flavor and think mj flavor=drug=bad. We been over this with e-cigs, they see e-cigarettes, cigarettes= bad. In the end it doesn't matter what in his eliquidmjflavor, what matters is that it is labeled mj flavor and has other things in it, you really think HC or some people wont use this and twist it around as e-cigs users are using the device improprely?

 

[twtmc]

Anything that is health or pharma related in eliquid changes the classification of the device used with it from a "consumer electronic with common consumer and food grade approved ingredients" to that of a "medical device requiring a special license and full new-product-testing".

The US vendors had to fight hard against that classification in court. They won.

We're still struggling through the same fight in Canada.

See, that is a perfectly valid point. If this were to be sold in Canada, it probably would fall under "Health Supplement". This is a perfectly logical concern and something vendors need to be aware of.

The thing grinding my gears in this thread is the somehow immediate comparison of amino acids to X because the name of the product implies that it calms the user down in ways similar to X.

People usually don't look at that, they just look at the name of the name of the product and see mj flavoring and think mj flavoring=drug=bad. We been over this with e-cigs, they see e-cigarettes, cigarettes= bad. In the end it doesn't matter what in his eliquidmjflavor, what matters is that it is labeled mj flavored and has other things in it, you really think HC or some people wont use this and twist it around as e-cigs users are using the device improperly?

Why get up in arms about this and not mj flavored e-juice? By that logic we should be worried about that giving the wrong idea as well. Whereas Kat's concerns are logical, yours are based on the notion that anything related to mj flavor will automatically get slapped down by Health Canada, completely ignoring that things like Dank Energy Drink have been around for years as health products.

One more thing: It doesn't contain stimulants. If it had caffeine, then it would contain stimulants. Amino acids are not stimulants.

 

[GrapeChaser]

Just to clarify one thing It is not a Canadian product, it's a USA product. The company also sells sexual enhancement pills.

I do vape my Vitamin C and other vitamins too. I do a lot of tinctures and extracts and most to all of them have made it into my e-cig but I don't think it would be a wise choice to take my prescription and stick it into my addy and share it with the world.

 

[twtmc]

The only reason it would not be good to add in vitamins and supplements that can be readily vaped is because it would then fall under the label of "Health product". When was the last time you heard someone saying that they were concerned about their kids wasting their lives away on anti-oxidants?

 

[IanK1968]

Just wondering, would vaping vitamins and minerals change the classification of an e-cig to a drug delivery device? Afterall HC and the FDA dont classify those as "drugs"

 

[twtmc]

I think it is at a certain concentration that HC considers something a Natural Health Product. I'm not positive of this though. I'll look it up more sometime soon.

 

[kanadiankat]

Just wondering, would vaping vitamins and minerals change the classification of an e-cig to a drug delivery device? Afterall HC and the FDA dont classify those as "drugs"

Apparently yes. Anything that delivers anything that makes any kind of claim on health (which includes vitamins and minerals) is considered a "medical or drug delivery device". It doesn't have to be an actual pharmaceutical drug.

 

[Mindfield]

Apparently yes. Anything that delivers anything that makes any kind of claim on health (which includes vitamins and minerals) is considered a "medical or drug delivery device". It doesn't have to be an actual pharmaceutical drug.

Not that this matters any, but I think herbal supplements are exempt from such classification. Not that I want to vape St. John's Wort...

As to the subject of the OP, I'm very much against the guilt-by-association such an E-liquid could give E-cigarettes, but unfortunately it's not the first time I've seen this happen either.

 

[chaseman]

I'm not certain the inclusion of ingredients would classify it; perhaps its "advertised" or "claimed" intent would? I have some (seemingly rare) e-liquid with caffeine. It does not state anything other than the percentage volume of caffeine, along with the other ingredients; I'm not sure if this would fall into the same category.

 

[Mindfield]

I'm not certain the inclusion of ingredients would classify it; perhaps its "advertised" or "claimed" intent would? I have some (seemingly rare) e-liquid with caffeine. It does not state anything other than the percentage volume of caffeine, along with the other ingredients; I'm not sure if this would fall into the same category.

VaporRenu does juice with optional caffeine and vitamin shots.

 

[chaseman]

VaporRenu does juice with optional caffeine and vitamin shots.

Have you tried this?

I have several bottles of the decadent vapor doppio espresso, 2.5% (25mg). It's scary looking and I don't drip or use atties. I'd love to tell you I was able to successfully fill a carto and it didn't have a fermented sour cream looking layor that wouldn't quite soak in.....but it did. Plus it's 36mg.

I'm certain it does the job, but the look of that liquid in the bottle....I'm vomiting in my mouth just thinking about it....MUST be the caffeine.

You may be the only one bold enough to take an honest stab....

 

[Mindfield]

Have you tried this?

I have several bottles of the decadent vapor doppio espresso, 2.5% (25mg). It's scary looking and I don't drip or use atties. I'd love to tell you I was able to successfully fill a carto and it didn't have a fermented sour cream looking layor that wouldn't quite soak in.....but it did. Plus it's 36mg.

I'm certain it does the job, but the look of that liquid in the bottle....I'm vomiting in my mouth just thinking about it....MUST be the caffeine.

You may be the only one bold enough to take an honest stab....

I love coffee vapes, and I'd try anything once -- but I won't touch 36mg juice again. The first and last time I tried a straight up 36mg juice I took a big ol' inhale (forgetting at the time it was 36mg, as I'd intended to take more ginger vapes on that stuff) and it felt like my head shattered into a million glittery shards of meat. I was literally blinded for a moment. And I was a 24mg vaper at the time. These days I can't vape anything much above 12mg. I can do higher in brief stints for reviews, and I can use 18mg in my 808s (they attenuate vapor and TH so it feels more like 12) but anything higher, fuggeddaboudit.

To answer your question though, no, I haven't tried any of VaporRenu's stuff.

 

[eyebedam]

I tried the mj flavor from Vapor God & it's the worst tasting crap I've ever come across. I think I'd rather have a milkshake made of pine cones.

 

[lithiumdaze]

Nothing good can come of this product. just sayin

 

[Song]

See, that is a perfectly valid point. If this were to be sold in Canada, it probably would fall under "Health Supplement". This is a perfectly logical concern and something vendors need to be aware of.

The thing grinding my gears in this thread is the somehow immediate comparison of amino acids to X because the name of the product implies that it calms the user down in ways similar to X.


Why get up in arms about this and not mj flavored e-juice? By that logic we should be worried about that giving the wrong idea as well. Whereas Kat's concerns are logical, yours are based on the notion that anything related to mj flavors will automatically get slapped down by Health Canada, completely ignoring that things like Dank Energy Drink have been around for years as health products.

One more thing: It doesn't contain stimulants. If it had caffeine, then it would contain stimulants. Amino acids are not stimulants.

I'm not to keen on mj flavored e-juice too, although most of us in the forums tend to view things from a logical standpoint, I am just trying to point out that most people won't bother researching things, all they see is mj flavored ejuice meaning other things and I'd rather not have e-cigs have any associations with that. E-juice with nicotine is already considered a unapproved drug and e-cigs that are meant to deliver it a class 2 medical device, meaning getting license for that is close to impossible unless you got millions to blow or beat HC in court like they did in the States. Now I'd rather not give HC more ammo to fight with by associating it with that, even if there are no mj flavorings in it they will twist it around so it and explain that it a gateway to that and other things because of the mj flvaoring or some other way. Just look at the very misleading report by the FDA on e-cigs and e-liquid its been debunked in so many ways and people are still using that report as a reason to ban e-cigs or why its bad...