ended up back on the smokes.. i need help cant seem to stop!!

[Benjamin Pickett]

1st of all, im a long time lurker but i believe this may possibly be my 1st time posting here although i've been browsing this forum for about 2 years.

Ok, Well a long story cut short, i tried e cigs a while ago it started with with a m401 kit , carto's carts and several cheap ecigs off dealextreme, it served me well for around a year up until i had a disastrous break up which dragged out over around 5 months and really sent my mental health into a real spiral, caused me to get paranoia, depressive, i'd spend all my money wanting to smoke and drink more and i lost around 3 stone, and i'm not exactly a fat bloke anyway so that was possibly the worst thing of all of it!

Due to this i could no longer vape, i found my self craving a cig everytime i wanted to vape, it was horrible.. It didnt please me, i hated the taste of my vape the smell and even the look i got so insecure that i couldnt even go out into town with my PV because i got insecure of the people looking at me!

A year on and im still smoking to this day, i've tried stopping 3 times, i've used patches, gum (refuse to take tablets, someone i know had a bad experience and nearly killed them selves yeah// dont take champix its the devils tablet!!) and nothing works, i still seem to end up turning back to my good ol' trusty rollups!

I WANT TO STOP AGAIN NOW!!

I've began to start buying my self a new kit and bulking up for when i originally start to switch, i still havent got round to really stopping yet, i've cut down a hell of a lot though, i used to smoke around 20 a day and i've cut down to around 3-5 but still cant seem to make that final switch! My kit currently consists of
3 x 501 Standard batterys (small cig shaped style)
1 x V.V Ego T
30 x Boge Cartomizers
All my liquid i have atm, Its all VG (sensitivity to PG i think so i stopped it straight away)
1 x 30ml PG Strawberry eliquid High MG from DX.com
1 x 30ml RY4 from liberty flights]
1 x 50ml Dekang ry4
1 x 10ml Caramel apple pie (tried it on my m401 and hated it)
1 x 30ml Green Cow from liberty flights
and some giant carto' tank style things, some clearomizers ect ect.

Now i've got my kit sorted im determined to get my head around my phobia of how other people perceive me for smoking my PV, I go to college and i'm about to start university this year. I must be the only young adult old who actually wants to stop smoking let alone has tried an e - cig! young people think of it as weird, and as you probably know, when your around my age what people think about you is EVERYTHING! (yeah, sounds terrible i know!)
Now the issue i have is that people always look down on me when smoking it, they either think im some sort of crack head or think im doing some other illegal activity. I've even been stopped by the police on one occasion because apparently what i was "smoking, smelt funny". I've never really been a self conscious person but after everything that happened over the last year i still suffer with a slight case of paranoia and cant seem to get my head around getting a device out in public. I get scared and worried. How do you guys deal with it?

Anyhow, i just need some advice off you guys as what to really do?
How did you find the best way to quit ?
And what do you guys think of my setup to quit with? Remember im a student so i cant really afford expensive devices (as much to the believe that all students are well off, i'd like to differ)

Oh and i'd also like to say thank you for all the help i've got from this community in the past few years with directions on where to go with my vaping experience, i may not have posted much but i've been lurking a long time!

 

[NewAddict333]

Benjamin,

I am TOTALLY NEW here! But I couldn't help but reply to your message. I only just got an e-cig as my cousin suggested out of the blue this weekend and I ordered it under pressure and got it Wednesday... It's a cheapo plaid looking thing, and just today I discovered this forum, and have ordered another brand with a few more bells and whistles. HOWEVER, I've always felt badly smoking an actual cigarette in front of people at work or others that dont' smoke at all, and I've always parked my car far on the lot, and smoke in my car. I'm doing the same now with the e-cig. It's awkward I guess. But all I keep thinking and doing is smelling my hands and my sleeve... I can't believe how awesome it is to not smell like smoke (which was also a very embarrassing factor to me)... so here I am with my e-cig, hiding in my car, but still feeling better none the less because I don't reek! I know this is not all the answers or advice you are looking for. I just wanted to say "hi" and hope you get the answer you are truly seeking.

 

[Chrissie]

Hello & welcome Benjamin

It sounds like you have been going through a bad time & have had your confidence knocked badly

Your kit sounds pretty good to me Though as I'm sure you know, the standard 510 batteries do have limitations as they need recharging so often & you can't use LR cartomisers with them.

But above all, hold your head up high & count the real cigs you don't smoke rather than the ones you do & be proud of the fact you are using an e-cig

 

[Benjamin Pickett]

Thank you! I hope you have a good time vaping too! I always found the cheapo devices to work well however i'll tell you that for me i found that 501's had a greater taste to them I never really felt bad about smoking infront of people, everyone i know smokes however which kind of makes the switch more awkward and harder for me, i smoke mainly at work to be honest and everyone's so judgmental there which makes it harder to stop!

Thank you for your kind words though Hope you find your transition easy!

 

[Smile n' shine]

Benjamin, there is no easy way to quit smoking. I've tried everything too. This is the only thing that worked, and the cost of cigs is a big motivator. Don't beat yourself up for smoking, we all have days, weeks, months of trouble. The point is, you want to give it another go.

I think you should pat yourself on the back for trying again. They all say, NEVER STOP TRYING Sounds like you've had a bad year...but wow you have so much to look forward too!

Sorry, I'm at the age, I don't care what other people think. In my head, I'm the cool one, healthier & spending less money. If I were you, I'd brag that you have more beer money because you vape.

Good luck, wish you success.

 

[Benjamin Pickett]

Yeah' the confidence issue has been the biggest issue that i've been trying to overcome lately! it's getting better but its still there whenever i pull out a PV, it seems so much easier to pull out my tobacco and roll that it does to discreetly take a toot on my PV.

And the only reason i have the standard 501 battery's are because they are cheap I know, im a cheapskate! But i bought them only to use really while my V.V Ego is charging, as i dont smoke that much i didnt really see me wanting to buy two expensive batteries when the cheap 501's only cost me around £5 each

Thank you for your kind words though! i'll use your advice when i finally make the switch!

 

[Benjamin Pickett]

It sucks been in the age group that i am, everyone is so judgmental that its crazy! i've always been more mentally mature than most of my fellow peers my age although but even so i made the stupid decision to start smoking around 12 and its been difficult to stop ever since!

I do believe that these devices are the future for people who want to stop smoking! i've never really been able to stop smoking for more than around 3 days in the past where as with a PV i lasted months before i started again..
My plan is to not go the same route as i went in the past which was more of a "run and gun" style setup, i'd buy one cheap pv and run it into the ground untill i eventually broke it and then ended up smoking again while waiting for a new device to come, so now i think my plan is to built up a decent supply that will be able to see me through a few months, in these months im going to try and not worry about my urge to stop smoking but instead enjoy the experience with my PV and eventually hopefully i'll not find a desire to even pick up a smoke after a while! What do you guys think about that?

 

[nansc]

Bengamin,try just having them (e cigs) whenever you can in between your other ones and I think it will grab hold again.It's hard when your ego takes a beating or anything stressful happens.I find myself wanting one every time some thing like that happens.Can you kind of make a joke out of your e cigs,sometimes this works.I call it my toy cig.Trust me I have COPD and it is horrible so try not to let the smarta..es get to you.Remember they won't be around when you are gasping for breath. Good luck to you

 

[Chrissie]

Benjamin, where abouts in the Uk are you? No need to give exact area, but just wondering if I can find someone that could meet up with you to help give you more confidence with vaping

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Hi Benjamin and welcome to ECF. You are among friends here. Yeah it does sounds like you've had a rough time of it. I don't know where you reside but after 5 posts wait 1 hour and you can post here and see if there's anyone nearby you could vape with:
UK Forum
As I see it you need a support group- friends, family, ECF, a local pub that encourages vaping, etc. I think if you could hang out with other vapers you might not feel so alienated.
As for vaping don't look at the occasional analog as failure- as was told to me told many, many yrs ago "you're only a failure if you don't try". I've lived by that saying for decades now and win or lose it has always served me well.
As far as I know the U.K. is presently one the most liberal and forward thinking nations when it comes to vaping.
Your setup is great. For stealth vaping you may want to try less VG in your juice= less vapor.
Regarding your age and the younger students I'm 60 and when young kids see me vaping they think it's cool.

Cheers, Good Luck and please stay in touch cuz like I said before You're Among Friends.

1st of all, im a long time lurker but i believe this may possibly be my 1st time posting here although i've been browsing this forum for about 2 years.

Ok, Well a long story cut short, i tried e cigs a while ago it started with with a m401 kit , carto's carts and several cheap ecigs off dealextreme, it served me well for around a year up until i had a disastrous break up which dragged out over around 5 months and really sent my mental health into a real spiral, caused me to get paranoia, depressive, i'd spend all my money wanting to smoke and drink more and i lost around 3 stone, and i'm not exactly a fat bloke anyway so that was possibly the worst thing of all of it!

Due to this i could no longer vape, i found my self craving a cig everytime i wanted to vape, it was horrible.. It didnt please me, i hated the taste of my vape the smell and even the look i got so insecure that i couldnt even go out into town with my PV because i got insecure of the people looking at me!

A year on and im still smoking to this day, i've tried stopping 3 times, i've used patches, gum (refuse to take tablets, someone i know had a bad experience and nearly killed them selves yeah// dont take champix its the devils tablet!!) and nothing works, i still seem to end up turning back to my good ol' trusty rollups!

I WANT TO STOP AGAIN NOW!!

I've began to start buying my self a new kit and bulking up for when i originally start to switch, i still havent got round to really stopping yet, i've cut down a hell of a lot though, i used to smoke around 20 a day and i've cut down to around 3-5 but still cant seem to make that final switch! My kit currently consists of
3 x 501 Standard batterys (small cig shaped style)
1 x V.V Ego T
30 x Boge Cartomizers
All my liquid i have atm, Its all VG (sensitivity to PG i think so i stopped it straight away)
1 x 30ml PG Strawberry Eliquid High MG from DX.com
1 x 30ml RY4 from liberty flights]
1 x 50ml Dekang ry4
1 x 10ml Caramel apple pie (tried it on my m401 and hated it)
1 x 30ml Green Cow from liberty flights
and some giant carto' tank style things, some clearomizers ect ect.

Now i've got my kit sorted im determined to get my head around my phobia of how other people perceive me for smoking my PV, I go to college and i'm about to start university this year. I must be the only young adult old who actually wants to stop smoking let alone has tried an e - cig! young people think of it as weird, and as you probably know, when your around my age what people think about you is EVERYTHING! (yeah, sounds terrible i know!)
Now the issue i have is that people always look down on me when smoking it, they either think im some sort of crack head or think im doing some other illegal activity. I've even been stopped by the police on one occasion because apparently what i was "smoking, smelt funny". I've never really been a self conscious person but after everything that happened over the last year i still suffer with a slight case of paranoia and cant seem to get my head around getting a device out in public. I get scared and worried. How do you guys deal with it?

Anyhow, i just need some advice off you guys as what to really do?
How did you find the best way to quit ?
And what do you guys think of my setup to quit with? Remember im a student so i cant really afford expensive devices (as much to the believe that all students are well off, i'd like to differ)

Oh and i'd also like to say thank you for all the help i've got from this community in the past few years with directions on where to go with my vaping experience, i may not have posted much but i've been lurking a long time!

 

[Benjamin Pickett]

I live in the Leeds area.. so far i've not met anyone else who Vapes in my area. To be fair, to say my age group are all "techy" its amazing how people still find these devices scary!

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Hey Ben...hope you don't mind me calling you that? Here's a map where vaping establishments are located in the U.K.
Campaign for Vaping in Pubs - CommunityWalk

 

[Benjamin Pickett]

Hi Benjamin and welcome to ECF. You are among friends here. Yeah it does sounds like you've had a rough time of it. I don't know where you reside but after 5 posts wait 1 hour and you can post here and see if there's anyone nearby you could vape with:
UK Forum
As I see it you need a support group- friends, family, ECF, a local pub that encourages vaping, etc. I think if you could hang out with other vapers you might not feel so alienated.
As for vaping don't look at the occasional analog as failure- as was told to me told many, many yrs ago "you're only a failure if you don't try". I've lived by that saying for decades now and win or lose it has always served me well.
As far as I know the U.K. is presently one the most liberal and forward thinking nations when it comes to vaping.
Your setup is great. For stealth vaping you may want to try less VG in your juice= less vapor.
Regarding your age and the younger students I'm 60 and when young kids see me vaping they think it's cool.

Cheers, Good Luck and please stay in touch cuz like I said before You're Among Friends.

Your advice is great, My family and friends still seem to be alienated by vaping which makes the transition slightly harder, they find it a scary concept to get there heads around! Most people in the area i live smoke, and if they see someone vaping they seem frightened by the concept!

And as for the reason i use VG liquid is because i think i suffered a reaction to PG liquid when i started, i felt queezy i couldnt breathe easily and i got a really sore throbbing sensation in my mouth. This coupled with my now broken SD mod helped me get off analogues for ages,but i accidently flooded the battery and had no replacement devices hence why i went back to analogues!
I am determined to stop again, and i really appreciate all the guys on here's help! it seems like if i ever do run into any issue's ill be straight on here reporting to this community about it and hopefully once i stop ill be free from all the vile things that come along with smoking!!

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

It's advice that I've received from the vets here at ECF and a Gentlemen decades ago that saw some promise in me and decided to take me under his wing...justa passin' it on
If the PG is bothering you, which is common, you could try adding either distilled water or PGA to offset the vapor- very small amounts though.

 

[Benjamin Pickett]

Hey Ben...hope you don't mind me calling you that? Here's a map where vaping establishments are located in the U.K.
Campaign for Vaping in Pubs - CommunityWalk

Ben is fine, its what most people / friends tend to call me anyway and seeing as this comunity is like a family i've no worries!! I looked on that map you shared with me and it made my point rather clear that in my area there arnt many places one could go to vape! i live on the outskirts of leeds and by looking on that map there is only one establishment even remotely close to my area that allow's vaping! its amazing looking at it though how many places in the UK there is that DO allow vaping, i honestly thought there was no uk vapors to be honest!

 

[Chrissie]

Benjamin, there are so many vapers not that far from you. Far, more than where I am down in Cornwall.

If you are ever in the Rochdale area, pop along to Vape Escape's shop on the York road. You just couldn't get a more helpful supplier

 

[Benjamin Pickett]

Benjamin, there are so many vapers not that far from you. Far, more than where I am down in Cornwall.

If you are ever in the Rochdale area, pop along to Vape Escape's shop on the York road. You just couldn't get a more helpful supplier

Wait What!? They actually have suppliers with shops now!?
Wow! i'll have to pop in there the next time im in that area! Its amazing how much things have changed really, i always purchase my products online because i didnt know i could find someone who sells products locally!
No more waiting for the postman now!

 

[House Lover]

Man I LOVE stealth vaping!!! There's something so fun about getting your fix, especially when folks around you have to go outside and are trashing their lungs. . . Don't give people that look at you twice the second thought they don't deserve brotha. Quitting smoking has been the hardest thing I've ever attempted in my life but once I make that commitment to stop I don't let anyone get in my way!!! There's all sorts of things people could be thinking, most of which you'll never know. Not to mention the people you'll never know because they are too weird or judgmental to be in your life.

Stay away from shady folks and crazy birds!

Vape on, vape often, feel good!!

As the legendary Dr. Seuss once said, "Those who really mind don't matter and those who really matter don't mind!"

 

[NeonPriest]

i think it is actually a good idea for people to see you smoking a PV, that way more people will be interested in e-cigs and might start vaping on one themselves.

 

[RansomB]

I always like to tell myself "what other think of me is none of my business."
It has served me well!