Erlkonigin and Clone Comparison
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And the oversized channels would be because it is a clone.
I'm really sorry to hear that you are having this much trouble KTMRider but there are many, many other users that haven't. If you've packed the coil with rayon and it still leaks then there is definitely something wrong with the hardware imo.
Before you trash it this is what I did to stop the dreaded flooding and she lasted days till I sent her off on to a new adventure!
I used ejuice on the inner tank tube top and bottom - Also ejuiced the top 2 plates, the driptip plate and the o-ring fill plate (where they join together). This should give you the best seal.
Give it one more try!
I used ejuice on the inner tank tube top and bottom - Also ejuiced the top 2 plates, the driptip plate and the o-ring fill plate (where they join together). This should give you the best seal.
Give it one more try!
Loosen drip tip.
Expose fill ports.
Fill gently but quickly.
Close fill ports.
Tighten drip tip.
The main thing is to fill it without haste. You don't have to rush but don't dilly daddle with it either.
If, when everything is tightened up, you can still see a gap between the top caps, you're doing it wrong.
If the top cap can be opened with everything tightened down, it's wrong.
I agree, there's gotta be a loss of vacuum somewhere.
Also, on a related note, the IBTanked glass fits the silver box clone according to one reviewer. He said that it didn't fit one way, but when he flipped the glass over, it fit...albeit very snuggly.
If the top cap can be opened with everything tightened down, it's wrong.
I agree, there's gotta be a loss of vacuum somewhere.
Also, on a related note, the IBTanked glass fits the silver box clone according to one reviewer. He said that it didn't fit one way, but when he flipped the glass over, it fit...albeit very snuggly.
KTMRider, I know that on the clone that I have the top two fill hole o-rings are very loose and somewhat oversized. I wonder if the drip tip isn't screwing down enough to get them to seal properly and that is causing it to not have a vacuum, leading to your leaking issue.
Per elanamylove, maybe apply a little juice to those o-rings?
Per elanamylove, maybe apply a little juice to those o-rings?
I'd juice the entire plate part that joins the o-ring plate part & driptop plate part - Only thing that worked for my clone.
Well, you have both. How's the clone working for you? I don't think it's my specific atomizer or the clone version. I checked all the seals and they're fine.
It worked great when I first wicked it. Almost as good as my KFL+. The problem came when I tried to fill it up when it was 1/2 full. When it flooded, I just figured it was because I lost the vacuum in the tank and should be fine after I clear it like the first time. It just kept flooding.
The only other thing I can think of is to make a bigger coil to hold even more rayon. It currently has a 1.98mm coil (5/64).
Hey KTM Rider, where in Jersey do you live. If you are in North Jersey I can definitely help you out, show you my build or compare our clones for any differences..
I used a 2.4mm ID coil + Organic cotton - I still think its the top part of the clone, mine was not sealing right and mashing up the o-rings till I juiced the entire area.
After my initial fill that flooded (user error), I haven't had any issues with it. I have vaped it down to about 1/3 or so left and filled it without any leaking. I built it with Ni200 for the DNA40 just last night and it didn't leak when filling or throughout the vape. That is with the afc ring completely removed.
DNA40? I'm jelly
Yeah, now if I can just figure out how to build with it. Kind of has a bit of a learning curve to it. Vaped pretty crappy yesterday but I'll get it sorted out soon enough.
Bergen Co. Thanks for the offer. I might try building a bigger coil with more wick first.
The top seals fine. No issues with vacuum leaks. None.
How big was your coil?
I'm still waiting for VS to release their rDNA 40. I have one reserved at their shop. I already bought ni200 wire
You know, every week I can find an excuse to buy a VV/VW decive... I need help !!! No, willllllpowwwwweeeer !!!
Hey me too!... I live in Washington Twp. Let me know, if you want to meet up shoot me a p.m and I will give my cell. Hang in there the atomizer is def worth it.
Sorry KTM, thats kind of how I felt the other night lol. You know, I do think there is a flaw in the design of the Erl. Relying on a top plate pressed against o rings surrounding a top fill port doesn't seem exactly like the ideal way to implement. I know a lot of people really like toolless designs, but I can't help but think the Erl might have been a little better with a bottom fill port similar to a Kayfun and a proper top cap that isn't two discs pressed against each other. Just creates too many potential points of failure for the vacuum to leak. And especially considering how massive the juice channels are, it REALLY needs a proper vacuum.
Just my thoughts after trying and failing with it the other night.
Also, I did think it was interesting you said it felt less oversaturated with the flow control ring removed. To me it seems like the opposite. The flow ring doesn't make the channel opening any larger, as long as the chimney is flush with the ring. It should just make the chimney 1mm or so taller. But another important thing I noticed is that is does help stop juice from flowing freely into the channels. It sort of creates a wall between the liquid above and below the ring, because the ring extends ever so slightly out from the base and creates a smaller opening for juice to enter from above the flow ring. Meaning the full pressure of the liquid is not pushing at the juice channel opening. Notice how bubble would get stuck below the flow ring sometimes? Because it has less area to escape up.
Idk if that makes sense. But to me it seems like the flow ring does help prevent excess liquid pressure at the juice channel.
Just my thoughts after trying and failing with it the other night.
Also, I did think it was interesting you said it felt less oversaturated with the flow control ring removed. To me it seems like the opposite. The flow ring doesn't make the channel opening any larger, as long as the chimney is flush with the ring. It should just make the chimney 1mm or so taller. But another important thing I noticed is that is does help stop juice from flowing freely into the channels. It sort of creates a wall between the liquid above and below the ring, because the ring extends ever so slightly out from the base and creates a smaller opening for juice to enter from above the flow ring. Meaning the full pressure of the liquid is not pushing at the juice channel opening. Notice how bubble would get stuck below the flow ring sometimes? Because it has less area to escape up.
Idk if that makes sense. But to me it seems like the flow ring does help prevent excess liquid pressure at the juice channel.
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