Erlkonigin and Clone Comparison

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Did a new build on my FT Mini. 30ga, 4 wraps came out to around 1.35 ohms.

Wicking better this time than last and I'm really liking this little tank on my Clouper Mini.

My only gripe is that it's a bit fiddle to wick. Gonna be a pain to rewick on the go (I travel quite a bit).


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Did a new build on my FT Mini. 30ga, 4 wraps came out to around 1.35 ohms.

Wicking better this time than last and I'm really liking this little tank on my Clouper Mini.

My only gripe is that it's a bit fiddle to wick. Gonna be a pain to rewick on the go (I travel quite a bit).


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Mind sharing a pic? I was thinking in getting a cloupor mini and stuffing a dna 40 in it and my erlp nano is my all day device. Would like to have an idea of the looks :)

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Did a new build on my FT Mini. 30ga, 4 wraps came out to around 1.35 ohms.

Wicking better this time than last and I'm really liking this little tank on my Clouper Mini.

My only gripe is that it's a bit fiddle to wick. Gonna be a pain to rewick on the go (I travel quite a bit).


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Yeah, wicking can be a bit tricky and there is a bit of a learning curve with the Erl at first. Once you get past that though, it really becomes a breeze to wick. Keep at it.
 

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Before I got my mini clone I read and re-read how to build it. I was confident and had previous history with my R91, but the wicking was a concern. I somehow managed to get it right from the get go and enjoyed the Erl mini for several weeks before finally dropping it and breaking the PMMA tank. I tried a glass tank section from the R91 and found I got leaks, never could determine if it was from the tank O rings or the AFC. Yesterday I received some new PMMA tanks and nothing but leaking from the AFC. I do not mean a little, the whole darn thing!

I'm ready to throw the whole thing away and stick with something else, not the R91 no comparison to the Erl. Please help me figure out why this amazing little RTA is leaking. All of my O rings have been replaced and I can see air bubbles when I am able to get a vape from it. I fill as previously described in this thread, once and awhile I can get a few good vapes from it, set it down and my tank is leaking all over, from the AFC.
Maybe too late but this sounds like a broken vacuum seal somewhere. Once air can get from above (any area above the liquid level) the pressure /vacuum is lost, the deck is flooded and the liquid starts pouring through the air hole until the level of the liquid isn't high enough to go over the deck shoulders.

The velocity at which it happens depends only on how thick your wick is over the shoulders.

A properly sealed tank won't leak even if left alone for days.

As was already said, since you dropped the atty, check everything under a magnifying glass. It could be as simple as the top disc sitting crooked on the lower cap not sealing one of the feed holes.

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I wicked mine like Qorax's last OP build in the authentic thread. I think it was called too lazy to build. Anyway, you don't do much at all. Just trim real tight to the channels and put it back together. It's the best result I've had since yarn. I took it out as a backup with me last night when the wife and I went out. We have to go up and over a mountain to get where we were going, so I put the tank in a baggie wrapped in a paper towel in case of leaks. I didn't need to break it out, but when we got home several hours later, no leaks, no flooding, nada. Plopped it on my mod and perfect vape.

It might be the best option for new owners of erl style tanks for wicking since it's dead easy and works really well. I am using ITC juice in mine, max-VG.
 

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I give! I GIVE!!! I can't beat it!!!

What's the trick to getting the stupid little orings into those stupid little slots on the top of the ErlK?????

Put a little juice on them.

I'm talking the replacement orings. Not the originals. They don't stay in!!
 

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That depends if the atty is an original or clone and if the o-rings were intended for the original or clone. One thing I noticed right away by the first pics posted of the erlk clones, the top tiny o-rings were much more thick than the original. Maybe the o-rings you got are for a clone or vice versa? Mine seem to just snap in place and stay there?

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That depends if the atty is an original or clone and if the o-rings were intended for the original or clone. One thing I noticed right away by the first pics posted of the erlk clones, the top tiny o-rings were much more thick than the original. Maybe the o-rings you got are for a clone or vice versa? Mine seem to just snap in place and stay there?

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The stock top cap o-rings on the clone are definitely larger than the stock ones for the authentic. I believe that the problem is that the O's on the top cap are not milled/formed deep enough. The o-rings on the clone do not fit more than halfway in their grooves and therefore, they don't stay put. They just kind of lay on top of the grooves. I doubt you'd be able to find an o-ring that will stay put in the grooves of the clone.

My clone has the same tightening top cap that the authentic does so my o-rings don't slide around when tightening. Some of the clones are like the Prinz where you have to use an allen wrench to tighten the top cap and this can allow them to slip out of place when tightening.
 

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Good to hear, Sunburst! Thanks for the info!

Cotton or rayon?

Rayon for me. Lots of rayon. I am really impressed with how quick it was to build that way. I think from loosening the drip tip to tear it apart to first vape was probably 7-10 minutes and I cleaned the parts since I was swapping juices. (I did have the coil made before hand, but still, no muss, no fuss.) I've been using it since at about 22W and it's still working really well. The flavor is something I still like and the wicking is working very nicely.

The only bad pull I've had off of it was last night. After the superbowl was over, I walked out of dad's house to a very snow covered car. I should mention that I don't run it fully tightened to my mod, I don't know if it's my particular clone, but the airflow gets a bit restricted if I tighten all the way down. I leave it about half a turn out. So, I puts my rig in the car, start the car and fire up every bit of defrost available and grab my brush/scraper and get to work removing snow and sleet. After that's all done, I hop in the car and hit the fire button. Then I cough my face off. I have it built to .7 and I look at my mod and it was reading 1 and high change. It put 5.9 volts to it. So, I screwed it all the way down and all has been well since. I need to remember that temperature changes affect these tiny little miracle devices.
 
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I should mention that I don't run it fully tightened to my mod, I don't know if it's my particular clone, but the airflow gets a bit restricted if I tighten all the way down. I leave it about half a turn out.

When I got my first Erl I noticed something about the afc that no one talks about much. No matter how far you open it up, when you put it on your mod and start tightening it down, as soon as the afc touches your mod, it stays stationary while the atty is tightened down the rest of the way. Because of this, the afc was being tightened. I had determined that no matter how much you open the afc it is always 1 1/4 turns from fully closed after putting it back on your mod.

Easy enough for me to avoid though as I just remove the afc's completely anyway because I like an airy draw.
 

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Yes, also noticed that. Seems AFC is too thick to open fully without then rubbing against the mod. One easy fix might be to remove some material from the bottom side of the AFC with a file. Another might be to raise the 510 (on mod or device) so Erl doesn't sit fully flush against the mod. I like the draw with the AFC removed. Busardo also mentioned this, so apparently true for both clones and original. Given the fit, finish, and tolerances, it seems like an odd oversight in the design.

I ordered a second mini, plus extra mini chimney and tank to convert my full-sized to mini. I'm a bit of a flavor hopper and find the mini to be the perfect size for me. And a great vape too.
 
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