Etsy closing vaping supplies

[aikanae1]

This was from a drip tip seller:
http://i.imgur.com/1GLhAdB.png

It seems Etsy is joining Ebay, Amazon and Paypal by randomly closing vaping supply stores.
But they still allow drug pipes and tobacco products.

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

Operation choke point at its finest.

Thank you ,

The Obama Administration

 

[granolaboy]

.........trading short-term capitalist appeasement over profit in a booming new market.

Just think of all the money they're going to miss out on.

 

[Davey59]

I don't even know who they are...............

 

[aikanae1]

Etsy has been the go-to place for all things vaping over the last few years with the bans at Ebay and Amazon. Drip tips, carriers, holders, landyards, charms, even some Altoid mods and at one time, small eliquid mixers. Cottage crafts. No payment hassles.

 

[Davey59]

Etsy has been the go-to place for all things vaping over the last few years with the bans at Ebay and Amazon. Drip tips, carriers, holders, landyards, charms, even some Altoid mods and at one time, small eliquid mixers. Cottage crafts. No payment hassles.

I don't get it, I have purchased most of my vaping stuff from eBay other than juice.

 

[aikanae1]

I don't get it, I have purchased most of my vaping stuff from eBay other than juice.

The stuff found on Ebay is fairly recent (< 6 mths). At one time there was nothing outside of the category of "dry herb atomizer".

This isn't a debate about the value of Etsy. Maybe you should look at the site before critiquing?

Just know that for many it's the place to go and hasn't ever clamped down on vaping supplies as long as they weren't mass-produced chinese types. The site catered more towards those looking for Ooak products. I shop there A LOT.

 

[Davey59]

This isn't a debate about the value of Etsy. Maybe you should look at the site before critiquing?

I don't remember critiquing them, just said I never heard of them. If they are not selling vape stuff I can't see any reason to look .

I was checking the racking of an order on dhgate site this morn and read that that DHL will no longer ship any vape stuff.

 

[aikanae1]

I don't remember critiquing them, just said I never heard of them. If they are not selling vape stuff I can't see any reason to look .

I was checking the racking of an order on dhgate site this morn and read that that DHL will no longer ship any vape stuff.

They sell vape stuff or I wouldn't have posted here.
DHL stopped shipping lithium batteries awhile ago.
A lot of coops ship using DHL. That would affect a lot more than dhlgate.

 

[DrMA]

Operation choke point at its finest.

Thank you ,

The Obama Administration

There's no evidence of "Choke Point" here. It seems to me it's an arbitrary and unilateral business decision made by Etsy, similar to that made by ebay and Paypal, possibly motivated by liability coverage, or ANTZ pressure.

 

[Firestorm]

I did a search for "cigar" on Etsy and found that they sell humidors, cigar cutters, personalized cigar wraps, and other stuff dedicated to cigar smoking. I find it curious that they consider drip tips to be drug paraphernalia but not this other stuff that they're still selling. It seems like a double standard to me.

 

[Davey59]

They sell vape stuff or I wouldn't have posted here.
DHL stopped shipping lithium batteries awhile ago.
A lot of coops ship using DHL. That would affect a lot more than dhlgate.

I will look later but I believe the notice said "any ecig related stuff". This was in regards to a few boxes of Kangertech coils I purchased.

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

I don't even know who they are...............

I think I own them. At least according to all the Credit Card charges I see on Mrs. Kodiak's account.

Savings from vaping my azz... I need to go back to smoking 3 packs a day. It was cheaper.

 

[aikanae1]

You can't own them. I own another half or more. We could compare billings LOL!

A lot of the sellers were part time with day jobs. This is going to be a severe blow because they can't afford websites and payment processing. It's definatly going to eliminate some from even trying to see a mod holder idea or drip tip or lanyard they made. I did find a couple of shops on Facebook, but that's awkward and I suspect time is limited there too. One glass artist doesn't seem to be doing drip tips much at all anymore. It's sad.

I also don't like the policy it sets.

 

[Rickajho]

I wonder if Rhonda "Angels Heavenly Designs" got shut down?

https://www.etsy.com/people/rhondasellers2?ref=pr_profile

click!

Yup - all of her product listings (drip tips for those who don't know) are now gone.

 

[SmokinRabbit]

I did a search for "cigar" on Etsy and found that they sell humidors, cigar cutters, personalized cigar wraps, and other stuff dedicated to cigar smoking. I find it curious that they consider drip tips to be drug paraphernalia but not this other stuff that they're still selling. It seems like a double standard to me.

Yeah, but they also allow the sale of a lot of vaping accessories too. I did a search and found at least hundreds of listings for cases, holders, stands, displays, charms, lanyards, etc.

The notice pretty obviously is related to the devices themselves and the juice, which is likely more of a liability issue they are concerned with. Not saying it's right, but the top three prohibited items for sale are:

Alcohol
Tobacco and other smokeable products
Drugs, drug paraphernalia


...so I can't say I'm surprised.

 

[zapped]

I did a search for "cigar" on Etsy and found that they sell humidors, cigar cutters, personalized cigar wraps, and other stuff dedicated to cigar smoking. I find it curious that they consider drip tips to be drug paraphernalia but not this other stuff that they're still selling. It seems like a double standard to me.

You can thank the idiots who are using e-cigs for purposes other than intended for that one.

I ran into one of these people a few weeks ago, using illegal drugs at a bar no less, and gave him an ... chewing and a piece of my mind he will NEVER forget.

 

[aikanae1]

These are drip tips and mod holders and stands, etc. Not juice and devices. There were no chinese manufacturers on Etsy anyway since it's specialty is hand crafted items. The weekend warrier with a workshop. What's left over sounds like it's on borrowed time. They nailed some of the bigger shops first. Like Ebay, they don't seem to be targeting "dry herb" use - and it's not illegal everywhere anymore.

But it seems like waiting for ecig / vaping supplies to be regulated or made illegal requires too much patience? That's what ticks me off. Nothing is said about cigars or pipes or ashtrays or cigarette cases .... Those should have even narrower perimeters if they are going down that road. This is applied extremely unevenly in comparison to other products. They didn't bother changing TOS, just redefined vaping to fit existing policy when there's little relationship other than phony bad press. I can't even blame FDA / CDC for putting pressure on the site to do it.

Maybe a lot of people are not aware of how and why Etsy came into being. The site developed from a group of crafters and handmade artisians as a result from conflicts with Ebay that devalued their products and wanted them to compete on the same level as mass-produced cheap Chinese goods.

The history of Etsy is firmly rooted in rebellion and celebrating the independent spirit. I think that's why this is so .... what's the word I'm looking for? It just violates everything they've stood for since the beginning of the site.

Etsy's growth exceeded all imagination from the day they opened and became a symbol of "FU Ebay" to hand crafters, fringe groups, anything outside of the norm, the little guy.

I know good and well that if a site were developed specifically for vaping, it would soar.

 

[Rickajho]

Yeah, but they also allow the sale of a lot of vaping accessories too. I did a search and found at least hundreds of listings for cases, holders, stands, displays, charms, lanyards, etc.

The notice pretty obviously is related to the devices themselves and the juice, which is likely more of a liability issue they are concerned with. Not saying it's right, but the top three prohibited items for sale are:

Alcohol
Tobacco and other smokeable products
Drugs, drug paraphernalia


...so I can't say I'm surprised.

That wasn't my take on it at all. It included a specific, yet generalized, clause citing "...electronic cigarettes and "accessories used for inhaling electronic cigarettes." Rhonda sold one thing and one thing only on her etsy site: drip tips. Hand crafted one of a kind drip tips. She was a big 'out there' seller as last I looked she had over 150 listings - all for a very specific vaping related item and not a single e-cig or bottle of e-liquids in sight. It is not just about 'devices themselves' as you claim.

 

[Faylool]

Sometimes there is progress and sometimes there is regression. It's all rather ridiculous. I'll never get my head around it except the knowing the one single fact that government wants tax money