eVic - how about lifting the voltage/wattage in next update?

[Aikhme]

I had read somewhere that the eVic IS able to go over 5V/11W but joyetech restricted it to these limits because the device was not able to achieve 6V/15W.

If this is true then joyetech should lift the restrictions and allow us to achieve whatever the device is capable of even if that might be something like 5.5V/13W.

joyetech, please give us a little more power for high resistance cartos.

 

[sacricide]

I had read somewhere that the eVic IS able to go over 5V/11W but Joyetech restricted it to these limits because the device was not able to achieve 6V/15W.

If this is true then Joyetech should lift the restrictions and allow us to achieve whatever the device is capable of even if that might be something like 5.5V/13W.

Joyetech, please give us a little more power for high resistance cartos.

i agree, i think we should NOT LET UP and let joyetech know this is a feature we consumers want more than anything for the next update. i would hope this thread gets enough support to implant it in their brains

 

[Gstavrev]

I`m not sure they can give you more power with just a software update

 

[Aikhme]

I`m not sure they can give you more power with just a software update

Well I am not certain either.

But remember when the eVic came up with the 6V/15W specs before release?

well, I have been told that they changed the specs to 5v/11w because during testing they could not achieve 6V/15W. I have also been told that the eVic is capable of a bit more than 5v/11w but restrict it.

I think they should lift this restriction if that is the case.

 

[crxess]

A) The eVic can put out more power via Software update
B) Joye will only release such as it deems Safe with regards to the device.
C) it is just as cheap to buy slightly lower resistance Cartos and yes they can perform the same.

 

[speedjason86]

I think even some of the devices that claims can be set to 6V wont actually achieve 6V at certain resistance.
Anyway there should be a way to use two 18350's for extra oooomph.

 

[crxess]

I think even some of the devices that claims can be set to 6V wont actually achieve 6V at certain resistance.
Anyway there should be a way to use two 18350's for extra oooomph.

Guessing you never saw what happens when you pass 220v through something designed for 110v.

 

[speedjason86]

that is not the case. a lot of devices can use from 100-230v
same as say the ZMAX you can use one 18650 at 3.7V or two 18350 at 7.4V and it works better with two batteries at higher voltage because less current is needed meaning the batteries keep at lower current.

 

[Aikhme]

I think even some of the devices that claims can be set to 6V wont actually achieve 6V at certain resistance.
Anyway there should be a way to use two 18350's for extra oooomph.

I don't think that is particularly safe. Stacking is not recommended.

 

[crxess]

that is not the case. a lot of devices can use from 100-230v
same as say the ZMAX you can use one 18650 at 3.7V or two 18350 at 7.4V and it works better with two batteries at higher voltage because less current is needed meaning the batteries keep at lower current.

Again - purpose built. No where has it been stated by Joye that the eVic runs on 2x18350

Also no product built to run on a SPECIFIC voltage supply is rated to operate at 2x that voltage. Very few devices overall are rated to operate at 100-230v most use a power converter internal or external to balance power for proper operation.
Devices built to run at higher power can function through up-conversion. However, who said the eVic was built that way?

 

[Aikhme]

A) The eVic can put out more power via Software update
B) Joye will only release such as it deems Safe with regards to the device.
C) it is just as cheap to buy slightly lower resistance Cartos and yes they can perform the same.

Do you have any evidence supporting that the eVic can put out more power?

And if that is the case, what are they worried about? Just give their customers what they want and upgrade the device to 6v/15w.

 

[crxess]

2012 Newest Wholesale Original Joyetech eVic, View evic, joyetech Product Details from Guangzhou Xuanyi Lighting Co., Ltd. on Alibaba.com

Original release(china info)
You could possibly get an original 1.0 firmware to work - if you could find one. However as far as I know everything in finalized production runs was throttled back. Initial testing of early Euro releases showed as high as 13w.
And I never stated any specific figures. i.e. 15w/Xv - but Joyetech did

ETA - non of this would help the original poster. 3.0ohm coil would require 6.75v to achieve 15w

 

[Aikhme]

2012 Newest Wholesale Original Joyetech eVic, View evic, joyetech Product Details from Guangzhou Xuanyi Lighting Co., Ltd. on Alibaba.com

Original release(china info)
You could possibly get an original 1.0 firmware to work - if you could find one. However as far as I know everything in finalized production runs was throttled back. Initial testing of early Euro releases showed as high as 13w.
And I never stated any specific figures. i.e. 15w/Xv - but Joyetech did

ETA - non of this would help the original poster. 3.0ohm coil would require 6.75v to achieve 15w

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Yes thanks for that.

Yes I stated it was Joyetech that initially claimed 6v/15w then throttled back because the hardware could not achieve those specs.

It is not the wattage that is the limiting factor. I vape a 3ohm at about 5.2V/9W - ohm's Law.

So all Joyetech need to do is lift the restriction for the voltage only. I have no desire to go to 6.75V.

 

[Regzzz]

But.... ..... ..... Scotty... .... .... I need more......... ... ....... Power!

 

[niterider]

This is purely a safety restriction. Can the eVic handle more power? Sure. But at what costs man, at what cost?

 

[corruption42]

that is not the case. a lot of devices can use from 100-230v
same as say the ZMAX you can use one 18650 at 3.7V or two 18350 at 7.4V and it works better with two batteries at higher voltage because less current is needed meaning the batteries keep at lower current.

Power supplies or power regulators with the ability to sense and switch between voltages are capable of what you describe... but not all regulators or supplies are created equal. As crxess said -- purpose-driven. These are specific use-cases that the manufacturer employed.

If I had to wager a guess why no such configuration is considered compatible with the evic, I'd have to say that its most likely because of its firmware-driven design. I'm not certain what logic is contained in the head to manage the firmware and on-device OS -- but I can almost guarantee that like any other electronic firmware-driven device, it is very sensitive to power fluctuation. Its entirely speculative on my part, but I'd expect that stacking 18350's and effectively doubling the voltage would end with an entirely fried head unit, post haste.

 

[d9mel]

I'm gonna put 113 octane in my Mazda 3 and see what happens... bad idea.

The hardware components on the board have specific limitations, it sucks but sometimes you have to live with the software limitations put in place to safeguard the funtionality of the product and your saftey

 

[flintlock62]

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Scotty: I'm giving it all she's got, Captain!
Kirk: All she's got isn't good enough! What else have you got?

 

[AaronY]

Its entirely speculative on my part, but I'd expect that stacking 18350's and effectively doubling the voltage would end with an entirely fried head unit, post haste.

Have you seen or heard of anyone that tried it. I am interested.

 

[crxess]

Have you seen or heard of anyone that tried it. I am interested.

Would you plug your 110v hair dryer into a 220v outlet and turn it on?