Evolv sues Joyetech over VW technology !

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I read the pleading. If Evolv were suing because Wismec made an exact copy of their board and was reproducing it without license, I would support them. But they're not. Evolv seems to think they own the "variable wattage personal vaporizer" application in entirety, and nobody else is allowed to make a VW PV of any kind.

Patent trolls annoy me. I suspect I am not alone.
 

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Evolv just screwed themselves into a no win situation. If they lose the case buh bye patent, if they win the case and drive affordable boards from the market they piss off a huge customer base.

Actually, if you don't have an affordable product, you go bankrupt .....

There are so many options now with vape gear.

The market is rather over-saturated in many respects.

We've already seen vendors who were overly specialized in one or two type vaping products teetering on the verge of closing doors.
 

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I read the pleading. If Evolv were suing because Wismec made an exact copy of their board and was reproducing it without license, I would support them. But they're not. Evolv seems to think they own the "variable wattage personal vaporizer" application in entirety, and nobody else is allowed to make a VW PV of any kind.

Patent trolls annoy me. I suspect I am not alone.

It isn't just VW, it also covers temp sensing and temp limiting circuitry.
 

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If the Chinese spent the simular amount of time on research and development, instead of spending it on reverse engineering and outright copying and ripping off patented technology. They probably would be able to come up with something innovative that they themselves can put a patent on. However that seems to not be the case. They insist upon only doing business the corrupt way.
 

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I think it is obvious why evolv is challenging joytech.

Their own advertising admits they used the same design.

The RX200 with Wismec's proprietary chip features the same design, same shape, same size, and almost the same weight as its DNA 200 predecessor.

'Proprietary chip' and 'the same design' in the same sentence = double talk BS for we ripped off your design.

I hope evolv prevails.
 

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Great time for evolv to do this just what vaping needs and they will not win this as vw was around before them and their patent has always been more threat then substance. What this will do is increase the douche reputation of evolv even higher though they do have some very committed forum members who as always will justify, defend and accuse in their defence. Look forward to this falling flat on it's backside and evolv getting zip, but if they do by some miracle win joyetech will simply uproot and leave the US debatable if they will even pay any sum before going.
 

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    This is nothing new, and has gone on for a long time. Most have no idea of how much stuff made it's way to the landfill in China when Hon Lick got his patent there.

    Also, how do you think Blue became worth 163 million. ;)
    So look for Joytech to buy patent rights from Evolv like they should have.
     
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    I think it is obvious why evolv is challenging joytech.

    Their own advertising admits they used the same design.

    The RX200 with Wismec's proprietary chip features the same design, same shape, same size, and almost the same weight as its DNA 200 predecessor.

    'Proprietary chip' and 'the same design' in the same sentence = double talk BS for we ripped off your design.

    I hope evolv prevails.
    They are talking about the mod itself when they say that......And, yes, it is the same in almost every way but the chip.....and THEY OWN every thing about both of those mods except the chip. They didn't "rip of" evolve on the mod design at all, as evolve had NOTHING to do with that part.
     

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    They are talking about the mod itself when they say that......And, yes, it is the same in almost every way but the chip.....and THEY OWN every thing about both of those mods except the chip. They didn't "rip of" evolve on the mod design at all, as evolve had NOTHING to do with that part.

    True dat!

    Evolv makes chips, not mods.
     

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    So what is their beef with the reauleax, is the DNA200 chip a reverse engineered one instead of evolv's?
    No, it's that the chip/board used in the RX version - and those used in almost every other mod Joyetech makes - is using similar technology to what Evolv patented in the DNA-series boards. That's a loose interpretation, but sufficient to explain it.
     

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    Their "beef" is the difference in popularity/market share of the RX200 over the ones with their board in it....their CLAIM in the suit is over any and all mods using "regulated power" (variable wattage). Will they be able to prove that Joyetech (and any other company using VW) is "stealing" "their" design? doubtful, as they didn't design variable wattage, just re-implemented an existing technology for vaping purposes.
     
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