exigexpress Tobacco Absolute

[jolly_st_nic]

I just used 14 drops (50/50 dilution) in 30 ml of liquid. I put as many drops of TA in the mix as all of the other flavors combined. It's the main flavor. Some suggest using TA to enhance a tobacco flavor, and that is a great idea, but this is kind of the reverse: absolute as the base, other flavors to enhance. Example:

for 30 ml

14 drops TA (ecigexpress)
6 drops Desert Ship Blend (FA)
6 drops Apple Cider Vinegar (5% acidity)
2 drops Virginia (FA)

My next purchase, I think I'll get the full line of those little 15 ml FlavorArt tobacco concentrates for spicing up TA-flavored juice. I might look into buying natural tobacco extracts or other brands of TA as well. Any recommendations?

 

[Alter]

I love the RTS TA. Its a grassy hay type taste that goes great with my hangsen tobacco vapes. INW Garuda is another great grassy type TA, either of those two are present in all my ADV blends.
I haven't tried the ECX TA so your thoughts on its taste as a standalone would be great.

 

[jolly_st_nic]

I can't compare it to a different TA, because it's the only one I've tried. It does what they say tobacco absolutes do - ashy and thick tobacco flavor/texture that apparently mixes well if I can use 14 drops in 30 ml. This might not be the sort of flavor that I would think about a lot, really, but that's what I was hoping the other tobacco flavors might be used for (to add complexity). When I smoke cigarettes, a lot of different flavors in the tobacco are there, but they are not heavy flavors compared to the burning tobacco taste - very subtle instead, and there are several of them. FlavorArt is strong flavoring, so just a few drops might add a bit of subtle flavor to a TA juice without turning it into ... well, some commercial tobacco vapes are way over-flavored to me and taste much more like a bakery smells than like a cigarette smokes. I am not adverse to RY4 and that sort of thing, but I'm trying to cut down on cigarettes and tobacco juice tastes better in that regard.

By the way, I don't get much of a grassy flavor from the TA, but that could just be me. It tastes darker to me, less like the hay flavor of raw tobacco. I don't get too much hay/grassy thing in the above recipe at all, actually. I even used FA Virginia, but only two drops. I've been smoking 30 Camels a day, so it could just be my poor sense of taste.

 

[mcclintock]

^^-- Hummm, I find nothing ashy or thick about the INW Garuda. More of a grassy citrus. I actually use some dirty neutral base with it, along with about .2% M type. I also use it as a main flavor in that mix. It's a very light vape but, with the added components, has good throat hit. I drip so it gets mixed with lots of stuff (Key Lime ATM) but I haven't bothered with properly mixing it many other ways. One exception was a Garuda Biscuit flavor, until I got fatigued with the richness of INW biscuit.

Some NETs have a smokey flavor, probably from the curing. I have mixed feelings on that, since it's uncomfortably close to ejuice slightly burning it sets off warning bells. Some of the TAs are believed to be from lower quality tobacco (especially since some was for perfume originally, not vaping), which isn't entirely a bad thing.

 

[jolly_st_nic]

Hummm, I find nothing ashy or thick about the INW Garuda.

Yeah, ashy and a thick/rich/whatever tobacco flavor and texture is what I get from the ecigexpress TA that AlterUrEgo asked about. It's the only TA I have tried. I know the grassy, hay taste though. I mixed up a very naive American Spirit extract the first time I was into e cigs (put way too much of it into the first mix), and it had that distinct, strong taste. The recipe I posted has a little of that fresh tobacco "hay" taste I guess, but it's more a darker tobacco juice. There's a slight vanilla taste mixed in with whatever grassy taste is there, I think from the Virginia. Grassy is not the dominant flavor. I should try the TA alone and see what that's like (I haven't tried it totally naked, which I should have mentioned, but with the vinegar already added).

 

[Alter]

Yeah, ashy and a thick/rich/whatever tobacco flavor and texture is what I get from the ecigexpress TA

Its the ashy, dirt, stale taste I dislike in my tobac vapes. I have opened many tobacco concentrates and just the smell will turn me off on them and I won't even waste the bases to try them out. I have read and tried using apple cider vinegar but IMO all I got was a bunch of extra popping and spitting from the coil along with no real discernible difference using it in my mixes or not.