Favorite atty for SMPL

[Tom Forde]

No, it IS a problem with the SMPL. It's a dangerous design.

I agree. There's no insulator at the top of the SMPL & clones of the SMPL. If you look at, say a 4nine mod, there's a massive peek insulator around the 510 threading. They fixed that with the SMPL+ by Epic Design...as for an atty to go with it, check out the hobo v3.1, it's compact and I know for fact that the positive contact protrudes enough. Also I'd be interested in seeing a Low Pro Atty on top of a SMPL. 10mm in height + wide bore DT with a honeycomb inside, it's an awesome tiny atty. if you want a tank to go on top, you can't go wrong with the 528 customs Monster (kayfun) v2 or v3.
And the Derringer may seeM like it was made for the SMPL, buuut it was made for the prax1s mod as the derringer is made by prax1s a Dinghy by flawless would look nice on a SMPL.

 

[retired1]

Don't blame the design when it's people who are causing the issue.

When the simple act of screwing your tank onto the mod has a chance of causing a direct short, it's a design flaw. If you look at a true hybrid, the design prevents this from happening.

 

[Bad Ninja]

When the simple act of screwing your tank onto the mod has a chance of causing a direct short, it's a design flaw. If you look at a true hybrid, the design prevents this from happening.

I prefer true hybrids.
I have several.

I also don't believe you've ever tried SMPL or you would understand that with a SMPL or any mod without a centerpin, you Screw the atomizer in first, then install the battery or you will have a huge gap .

You have to use the gear properly.
Again, it's an ADVANCED user item.

It's obviously not for the "slap any tank on my mod" and roll crowd.

 

[Tom Forde]

I prefer true hybrids.
I have several.

I also don't believe you've ever tried SMPL or you would understand that with a SMPL or any mod without a centerpin, you Screw the atomizer in first, then install the battery or you will have a huge gap .

You have to use the gear properly.
Again, it's an ADVANCED user item.

It's obviously not for the "slap any tank on my mod" and roll crowd.

I've tried a SMPL. I was using my authentic derringer & when I tightened on the button with the battery installed, it pushed my center pin in and started to heat up real quick. Granted it was the gold plated copper center post (later upgraded the assembly), but still, it should not have shorted when I knew to make sure the + pin in the atty was protruding far enough. After trying with different atty's, I find the button gets too hot for my liking. But I digress. SMPL+ > SMPL. I didn't buy a SMPL because of the first time I tried one, I went with an AV Peg Mod(direct to battery) instead

 

[Bad Ninja]

I've tried a SMPL. I was using my authentic derringer & when I tightened on the button with the battery installed, it pushed my center pin in and started to heat up real quick. Granted it was the gold plated copper center post (later upgraded the assembly), but still, it should not have shorted when I knew to make sure the + pin in the atty was protruding far enough. After trying with different atty's, I find the button gets too hot for my liking. But I digress. SMPL+ > SMPL. I didn't buy a SMPL because of the first time I tried one, I went with an AV Peg Mod(direct to battery) instead

The post wasn't directed at your reply.

But I'll bite.
Your atty failed when you installed the battery, or you over tightened it.
The mod didn't fail. The atty did.

Loose positive posts can cause problems on a number of devices.

Be sure you use a proper atty on any mechanical mod.

 

[Tom Forde]

The post wasn't directed at your reply.

But I'll bite.
Your atty failed when you installed the battery, or you over tightened it.
The mod didn't fail. The atty did.

Loose positive posts can cause problems on a number of devices.

Be sure you use a proper atty on any mechanical mod.

I'm joining in because I prefer hybrid top cap mechs. It wasn't a matter of over tightening, I tightened to the point where the battery didn't rattle. There is a design flaw in the SMPL vs my Peg Mod, it's got no insulator on top or bottom. The button housing for my peg mod is a much different set up, the negative contact is recessed inside of the mod. The battery sits on top of a piece of brass that is large enough to raise the unwrapped bottom of the battery & prevent it from making contact with ANY metal part of the mod (since the whole battery itself is negative & only the top is positive, the battery wrap is the battery's insulator).

(Resting, not making contact)

(Pushing the fire button)contact)

to illustrate what I mean. The inner lip on the button housing makes my mod safer than a SMPL.

That's the button housing on the SMPL+, it looks like they corrected the issue, while also having a peek insulator on the top of the inside of the mod. Also with the SMPL I find the button gets a bit loose after a while, my friends (authentic SMPL) button presses in if turned upside down, but that's most likely a broken magnet.

 

[Bad Ninja]

You do realize all Chi-you's and King mods have no bottom insulator, and the battery sits on the switch housing.
Only the battery wrap is protection.


They were two of the most popular mechanicals for years.
Where's all the meltdowns with those mods?

 

[tj99959]

If I see you with a SMPL in your hand ... I will leave!
I wouldn't want you anywhere near me with that thing because I would have no idea of if you knew what you were doing ... or not.
Stick to mechanicals with a center pin. The hybrid top cap is only worth a hundredth of a volt anyway.

Hybrids have no business having a 510 connection! To many 510 toppers are not compatible. A simple 510 atomizer would be an instant short!

 

[Kprthevapr]

Will work

Won't work

It's that SMPL!

 

[Bad Ninja]

If I see you with a SMPL in your hand ... I will leave!
I wouldn't want you anywhere near me with that thing because I would have no idea of if you knew what you were doing ... or not.
Stick to mechanicals with a center pin. The hybrid top cap is only worth a hundredth of a volt anyway.

Hybrids have no business having a 510 connection! To many 510 toppers are not compatible. A simple 510 atomizer would be an instant short!

That would be the smart thing to do, however I doubt you'll ever find yourself standing beside me.

If you do, please...no autographs.

 

[Paradicio]

No, it IS a problem with the SMPL. It's a dangerous design.

Let's say you and I have different definitions for dangerous design then. If the design itself was inherently dangerous, I would expect some piece of the design to be at fault for multitudes of issues (I.e. Auto firing or firing because the switch cannot support the weight of the mod when set down). As it stands, with the SMPL, I've not seen evidence of that.

My wife has a mod, for example, where the fire button easily gets caught. Releasing the button will not stop the mod from firing. She is not the only person who has had this problem with this mod, my cousin and 2 other people that I know have had the same issue. I would say this mod has a dangerous design. Coincidentally, my wife and one of the people that have issue with said mod also have SMPLs, with which they have had no problems.

 

[OfTheBrave]

Before you buy that mod you may want to read this thread A SMPL Explosion. | E-Cigarette Forum

Important to note, the smpl mod explosion was because they were using a spring loaded geni tank.

If you all don't know yet, you can not use a spring loaded atty on a hybrid top cap. This includes the nautilus, atlantis, kanger subtank and the geni tank as well as some others to be sure.

If you don't do this, you really shouldn't have a problem.

 

[Nikea Tiber]

And if you are worried you can put a nonconductive flat washer on the top of your battery before you install it or add an extra collar of heat shrink to the positive end of your battery if you are worried someone might try and disconnect your atty while the battery is still in.
It is up to the consumer to educate themselves about things they own.
If you had the resources to buy and operate an airplane you would take lessons because it is apparent the alternative is life threatening. You wouldn't neglect reading multiple manuals as a part of this.
The part that annoys me a bit is any US citizen (as I can't speak on other educational systems) that graduated high school went over this stuff in physics because it has been criteria for decades now; and if you took shop you learned how to wire a lamp at some point... so yeah.

 

[Wolfenstark]

Yes for this mod the 510 screw needs to be sticking out from the outer thread and not be able to be pushed back in.
Also as with all mech mods use good recommended batteries that have an amp rating higher than your build will be drawing from them.

 

[VHRB2014]

Yap, for this "Advanced" Mod, the user is responsible for making sure the center pin will not get pushed up into the 510 under any circumstances, SMPL check to make if you understand how it works and how it can become a bomb if misused. High performance is not free, it must be accompanied by the knowledge of how to use it properly. Not enough people THINK IT THROUGH!

FWIW, my new Mini Velocity clone is the shiznit on the SMPL, The flavor, action and looks are to die for. :?)

Pic, :?)

 

[Nikea Tiber]

I watch a lot of south park.

The velocity seems Canadian to me.

 

[ckquatt]

I watch a lot of south park.

The velocity seems Canadian to me.

LOL!! I totally see it!!!




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[silvertorch]

I like the look of a SS SMPL with a Vector.

 

[Salvatore Paul]

I like the troll rda, I use it on mine.

 

[Monotremata]

I watch a lot of south park.

The velocity seems Canadian to me.

Hahaha its Ike!!!!