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[JD1]

1% of 10% won't even satisfy a baby. I am vaping it at 10% and it's great; it translates to 1% of raw Rustica.

I have a feeling you'd like SC (China) Cigar. It's wicked strong but some great baccy flavor with maybe just a hint of chocolate or something. It's alcohol based, so needs an over night with cap off and some steep time but it's pretty good on it's own and even better as a mixer.

Mine is from VZ but I'm pretty sure the SC line at BC is the same thing and for less money too. Unless you already know that you don't like the alcohol based stuff it might be worth a try.

 

[Exchaner]

I have a feeling you'd like SC (China) Cigar. It's wicked strong but some great baccy flavor with maybe just a hint of chocolate or something. It's alcohol based, so needs an over night with cap off and some steep time but it's pretty good on it's own and even better as a mixer.

Mine is from VZ but I'm pretty sure the SC line at BC is the same thing and for less money too. Unless you already know that you don't like the alcohol based stuff it might be worth a try.

I stopped dealing with VZ long ago but can give BC a try; is that Bull city Vapor? I love chocolate in my tobacco, but the tobacco you mentioned is it cigar flavor? What kind ? I love Cuban.

 

[Exchaner]

Are you talking about cutting down the raw TA for the concentrate to 5% or were you adding 10% of the concentrate to your recipe? If it's the latter then Wow 10% to a final mix is a lot.

No, I cut the Raw down to 10% and cut THAT again to 10% for the final mix. It is strong but not super strong. The odd thing is I usually go light on my flavors except for this one. I must like it a lot.

p.s. Like JD said before, 3% should not be that much different from 10% - the law of diminishing returns.

 

[JD1]

I stopped dealing with VZ long ago but can give BC a try; is that Bull city Vapor? I love chocolate in my tobacco, but the tobacco you mentioned is it cigar flavor? What kind of cigar? I love Cuban.

I've never had a Cuban so can't tell you. I doubt it is though because we'd probably be seeing some posts about it if it was. But yes, cigar with something else, I think chocolate, and no ash that I can tell. I'm pretty sure the Bull City stuff is the same line as VZ. If you decide to try it and like it, I think the Black Cigar is supposed to have more chocolate.

 

[Exchaner]

I've never had a Cuban so can't tell you. I doubt it is though because we'd probably be seeing some posts about it if it was. But yes, cigar with something else, I think chocolate, and no ash that I can tell. I'm pretty sure the Bull City stuff is the same line as VZ. If you decide to try it and like it, I think the Black Cigar is supposed to have more chocolate.

I keep buying stuff only to put it in a dark place and forget about it ... Got about 25 flavors I have yet to try from last year. Oh well, what's another one.

 

[JD1]

I keep buying stuff only to put it in a dark place and forget about it ... Got about 25 flavors I have yet to try from last year. Oh well, what's another one.

I couldn't afford that lol. Fortunately for me though, if I can drown it out with caramel and vanilla and brown sugar extra, I'll pretty much like it lol.

Edit: If you do order Cigar please go ahead and try it and, whether you like it or not, let me know if that's chocolate in it. I think you'll like it because it's a good moist baccy that barely lands on the sweet side. Keep us posted.

 

[chopdoc]

I couldn't afford that lol. Fortunately for me though, if I can drown it out with caramel and vanilla and brown sugar extra, I'll pretty much like it lol.

Enhance JD, not drown

 

[dannyv45]

I keep buying stuff only to put it in a dark place and forget about it ... Got about 25 flavors I have yet to try from last year. Oh well, what's another one.

That sounds like me. When I first got on the inawera kick I bought like 20 flavors and only tried 10. Still have like 10 I haven't even open yet not to mention about 30 or so flavors from other manufactures I haven't even open yet. I just find it so hard these days to find a few hours in a day that I can actually dedicate to just experimenting.

 

[derogg]

Do any of you with a large stash notice that your flavors degrade? Inawera has a best by date on the bottles. I haven't passed that date yet with any of mine, nor have I noticed a loss of potency with any open bottles. I keep my flavors in the refrigerator.
- Dirk

 

[dannyv45]

I have flavorings that are well over 2 years old and I haven't notice any significant change in flavor. I would be more concerned with natural flavors as those will degrade in a short amount of time. There may be some flavor degrading in tobacco flavorings that use natural tobacco essence such as Hangsen but again I have some pretty old hangsen tobacco flavorings and I have not noticed any significant changes over time. Now that could be due to me adding back tobacco essence like TA when I make my juices.

 

[JD1]

Enhance JD, not drown

Yeal, yeal, that's what I meant to say. Enhance.

 

[JD1]

It's looking like I may have to commit a cardinal sin here and dump about 55 ml of a mix I made a couple of months ago. I had ordered some Hangsen flavors, including vanilla, caramel, and Highway. When I tested them, they all tasted good so I made a big batch of one of my Ry4 type mixes. As it turns out, the vanilla seems like it can't hold up to the heat and I can't get through 2ml of my mix before it starts tasting off. I've tried pulling off a ml or so and mixing it with something else, but that's just throwing good juice after bad because once the flavor turns it throws the whole mix off.

Anyone else have troubles with the Hangsen Vanilla? I haven't read anything about it so I'm not sure what the deal is. It's not that I'm vaping all that hot either. I use a 28ga single micro at about 1 ohm and powered by a mech so shouldn't be that bad.

 

[derogg]

It's looking like I may have to commit a cardinal sin here and dump about 55 ml of a mix I made a couple of months ago. I had ordered some Hangsen flavors, including vanilla, caramel, and Highway. When I tested them, they all tasted good so I made a big batch of one of my Ry4 type mixes. As it turns out, the vanilla seems like it can't hold up to the heat and I can't get through 2ml of my mix before it starts tasting off. I've tried pulling off a ml or so and mixing it with something else, but that's just throwing good juice after bad because once the flavor turns it throws the whole mix off.

Anyone else have troubles with the Hangsen Vanilla? I haven't read anything about it so I'm not sure what the deal is. It's not that I'm vaping all that hot either. I use a 28ga single micro at about 1 ohm and powered by a mech so shouldn't be that bad.

I don't think its just hangsens vanilla. I think that vanilla in general is a tricky one ( at least for me). Too little and you can't taste anything and too much and the whole thing is ruined.
-Dirk

 

[JD1]

I don't think its just hangsens vanilla. I think that vanilla in general is a tricky one ( at least for me). Too little and you can't taste anything and too much and the whole thing is ruined.
-Dirk

You're probably right and I think it was Danny who posted about his problems with vanilla back when he was trying to extract his own. I'm thinking maybe the better it tastes, the more natural ingredients they've used and the faster it turns lol.

 

[chopdoc]

Today I was a little creative and whipped these up.

3% RealCig
2% Desert Ship
1% TA Virginia
1% DNB
1% EM

Not bad on the taste test. Waiting to try it in an RDA

And....

5% Virginia
1% Coconut
1% Rustica

Vaping it in an Orchid V4 at 20W. A lil heavy on the coconut taste but a longer steep and it should be yummy.

 

[derogg]

I am unfortunately the king of "if a little is good a lot is even better". Doesn't work so well with mixing DIY. I am slowly learning patience.

Mixed a few today:
Hangsens Highway 7%
Inawera Virginia TA 1%
DNB 0.5%
Inawera Dark Tobacco 0.5 %

Inawera Little Space drops 1%
DNB 0.5%
Garuda TA 0.5%

And of course need to have an RY4 on hand so Hangsens RY4 8%

We will see how they turn out? Any thoughts?
- Dirk

 

[chopdoc]

I am unfortunately the king of "if a little is good a lot is even better". Doesn't work so well with mixing DIY. I am slowly learning patience.

Mixed a few today:
Hangsens Highway 7%
Inawera Virginia TA 1%
DNB 0.5%
Inawera Dark Tobacco 0.5 %

Inawera Little Space drops 1%
DNB 0.5%
Garuda TA 0.5%

And of course need to have an RY4 on hand so Hangsens RY4 8%

We will see how they turn out? Any thoughts?
- Dirk

I need to see if I have some Highway and give that a try. Just got an order of Hangsen in. The little Space Drops never heard of, how is it?

 

[derogg]

I need to see if I have some Highway and give that a try. Just got an order of Hangsen in. The little Space Drops never heard of, how is it?

It's not too bad. E-FLAVOUR TABACCO "LITTLE SPACE DROP" - 10 ml. - inawera shop It has a nutty taste.....walnuts to be exact. I guess if you don't like walnuts well LOL. I haven't used it in a while so I thought I would give it a go. I saw the addition of DNB on the Vapertek web site and decided to add a little TA. Not sure if garuda was the correct choice, but I only have Inawera Virginia, Garuda and Cuban Cigar TA.

 

[JD1]

I am unfortunately the king of "if a little is good a lot is even better". Doesn't work so well with mixing DIY. I am slowly learning patience.

Mixed a few today:
Hangsens Highway 7%
Inawera Virginia TA 1%
DNB 0.5%
Inawera Dark Tobacco 0.5 %

...................

And of course need to have an RY4 on hand so Hangsens RY4 8%

We will see how they turn out? Any thoughts?
- Dirk

If you haven't done so already, be sure and try the Highway at 4 to 5% and well steeped stand a lone to get an idea of it. You may well wind up liking it at higher percents, and a lot of folks do, but for me, 4% and steeped at least 4 weeks is simply delish. In fact, that's what I'm vaping at the moment. (4% Hangsen Highway, steeped over 2 months.)

 

[derogg]

If you haven't done so already, be sure and try the Highway at 4 to 5% and well steeped stand a lone to get an idea of it. You may well wind up liking it at higher percents, and a lot of folks do, but for me, 4% and steeped at least 4 weeks is simply delish. In fact, that's what I'm vaping at the moment. (4% Hangsen Highway, steeped over 2 months.)

I don't think I have ever kept a juice that long LOL. I would have to lock it in a time release safe!
I have used highway as a stand alone. I do prefer my flavors on the strong side.