fc-2000 porous ceramic wick

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Hey Vap....BD13 is another formulation of Al2O3. I have tried the BD13. As Dan demonstrated in his test, it does wick faster, and in actual use it delivers more juice. So far I have used the 1/8th on a mechanical and compared to my home slotted FC-2000, the BD13 performs very well at higher wattages. (I have some real slotted FC's coming from DV this week and will retest for another comparison).

I posted this in the other forum last night.



looks really nice gdeal, like the music too. how is the fragility?
 
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I don't do sub ohm coils, and I don't tend to like extremely high wattages, so I don't know if it matters more under extreme conditions. What I can say is that afer a tank and a half, I'm not getting the slightest hint of burnt taste, and the vape is cleaner and more flavorful than anything I've tried before. I coiled up a second aga-t2, same method, only this time it didn't require any on wick adjustments, just some slight tightning of the top and bottom loops, which I did with the coil hot. Awesome vape from the first hit.

I might even have to rethink my flavor percentages on my diy juices as a cherry i mixed for stainless wicks is almost too strong.
What I am suggesting is to make those coils really tight, which is quite doable with the electrically annealed handwrap method. Strive for the best installation you can get, rather than settle. I had lots of practice, and so will you if you stick with it, and the coils will only keep getting better.

A coil not in contact with juice, ie. a gap, results in coil glow instead of juice being vaporized. In areas where the contact is semi-tight, you'll burn your juice, and if those areas make up 10%, then you'll have 10% burned juice with the 90% otherwise good. Thus it affects the taste, and a completely tight wrap will give you the very smoothest and best of it. This will hold true for any wattage whatsoever, it's only really an issue of degrees. I'm just relaying some tips and what I have found to be optimum.

In regard to flavors, I also ended up cutting back both my nic and flavoring. I see Genny RBAs like clean high-power vaping amplifiers ... lol ... tube mono-blocks, please :)

My DIY is about as thin as it gets. 1 drop of concentrated flavoring to 15 - 30mg of unflavored juice is all I need now ... any more, overkill.
 

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What I am suggesting is to make those coils really tight, which is quite doable with the electrically annealed handwrap method. Strive for the best installation you can get, rather than settle. I had lots of practice, and so will you if you stick with it, and the coils will only keep getting better.

A coil not in contact with juice, ie. a gap, results in coil glow instead of juice being vaporized. In areas where the contact is semi-tight, you'll burn your juice, and if those areas make up 10%, then you'll have 10% burned juice with the 90% otherwise good. Thus it affects the taste, and a completely tight wrap will give you the very smoothest and best of it. This will hold true for any wattage whatsoever, it's only really an issue of degrees. I'm just relaying some tips and what I have found to be optimum.

In regard to flavors, I also ended up cutting back both my nic and flavoring. I see Genny RBAs like clean high-power vaping amplifiers ... lol ... tube mono-blocks, please :)

My DIY is about as thin as it gets. 1 drop of concentrated flavoring to 15 - 30mg of unflavored juice is all I need now ... any more, overkill.
Maybe I wasn't totally clear before. I was only able to barely budge the coils while dry firing the coils so they glowed red. With liquid, there's no glowing at all, and I can't budge the coils when cold. Examination with a jeweler's loupe shows the wire virtually imbeded in the wick.

Funny you mention tube monoblocks. But even those need a good set of full range planars and a top notch analog front end to really show what they can do ;).
 

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Scuba Dan responded to a question I put on Youtube: The wicks are not as fragile as the FC wicks and they have an open porous surface like the FC wicks if anyone was wondering.
Which wicks? Something I failed to see in a post?

Do you mean FC slotted vs. FC unslotted? BD13?
 
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Cool. Saw it yesterday over on the other C-Wink thread. I must have missed the "fragile" part.

Where can the BD13 be acquired from?

Not available yet from what I am told. Only a few testing them like Gdeal above. Pretty impressive. SLR coil at 18 watts vertical wicking. Wow.
 

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Kayfun setup with 3/32 wick floating on a bed of cotton:

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This is 30g kanthal 6/7 wrap at 1.5 ohms. Works like a charm, sweet vape.
 
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Maybe BiDet ?

I want some! where? when?
why do you guys create new needs for the simple minded like me... I thought I was all set and was going to sleep happy everyday with a smile before I saw the white devil...

LOL! I think you can try PM him for sample. (I can't get from him cause I'm half a planet apart from him. :() And.., PM Boden not BiDet. :D
 

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Maybe BiDet ?

I want some! where? when?
why do you guys create new needs for the simple minded like me... I thought I was all set and was going to sleep happy everyday with a smile before I saw the white devil...
I also feel with the recent ceramic wick releases that I have achieved Vaping Nirvana, at least very close to it that I am not really further interested in whatever else may wick any better. But other issues come into play with this new wick as it's said to be less fragile, and I see that as another big step forward that may allow us coil-wrapping procedures which are currently risky propositions.

Just a few more pennies into the pot ...
 
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fragility is indeed an issue especially with these newer slotted wicks. you know i have been loving the performance of these newer slotted 1/8 wicks, but just ran into an issue with one. i only had 2 to try and had no problem with the first one, but the second one i broke twice in one set-up. maybe it was just a weak wick, or maybe all of them are like that and the first one i got was just a strong one. i have broke like 2 wicks since i started this thread, and one was because i dropped it. but now just in one set-up i snapped 2x's. hopefully this wont be an issue because as far as i know all the 1/8 wicks will be slotted. so to all that are waiting on some new wicks, just be extra carefull. if using 30 or 32 g there is no issues but with a thicker wire things need to be a little tighter. i to am completely satisfied with the way things are vaping for flavor and vapor couldnt seem to get any better, except it would be nice if these wicks were a little more sturdier.
 

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fragility is indeed an issue especially with these newer slotted wicks. you know i have been loving the performance of these newer slotted 1/8 wicks, but just ran into an issue with one. i only had 2 to try and had no problem with the first one, but the second one i broke twice in one set-up. maybe it was just a weak wick, or maybe all of them are like that and the first one i got was just a strong one. i have broke like 2 wicks since i started this thread, and one was because i dropped it. but now just in one set-up i snapped 2x's. hopefully this wont be an issue because as far as i know all the 1/8 wicks will be slotted. so to all that are waiting on some new wicks, just be extra carefull. if using 30 or 32 g there is no issues but with a thicker wire things need to be a little tighter. i to am completely satisfied with the way things are vaping for flavor and vapor couldnt seem to get any better, except it would be nice if these wicks were a little more sturdier.
I don't have any slotted, but still a good stash of the March releases left. These are much lighter and porous than the January issues and depending whether different bonding agents/processes have been utilized, they might also be a little more frail -- hard to say though.

A selection would be nice ... 'slotted' or 'unslotted' depending what you want to do. But then the BD13 may wipe all these issues off the table at some point.
 
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