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i have been asked a couple of times what percentage of vg do i vape and i have been replying 100 percent vg, well hopefully i havent driven anybody crazy because of my supposably sucessful results with my supposably 100 vg juice. a couple days ago i ordered some new juice to try(first time in months) because i thought i was vaping 100vg from cov, i ordered this new juice in 100vg mix. when i syringed this juice i knew it was much much thicker then what i have been vaping for the past year. i for some reason always thought cov juices were 100vg, but i guess i was wrong. anyways this new juice was just way to thick for any of my ceramic set-ups. i tried it in all 4 of my set-ups(all different wicks& resistances) and all gave one vape then dry hits. i know it is for sure the juice because after i tried this juice i proceeded to put back my other regular flavors and they all worked fine again. did i just get some super thick 200 percent vg juice? does anyone actually vape 100 percent real vg juice with ceramic wicks? if this juice was indeed 100 vg then i suppose my regular juices that i have been vaping for the past year is closer to 40pg/60vg.
 

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i have been asked a couple of times what percentage of vg do i vape and i have been replying 100 percent vg, well hopefully i havent driven anybody crazy because of my supposably sucessful results with my supposably 100 vg juice. a couple days ago i ordered some new juice to try(first time in months) because i thought i was vaping 100vg from cov, i ordered this new juice in 100vg mix. when i syringed this juice i knew it was much much thicker then what i have been vaping for the past year. i for some reason always thought cov juices were 100vg, but i guess i was wrong. anyways this new juice was just way to thick for any of my ceramic set-ups. i tried it in all 4 of my set-ups(all different wicks& resistances) and all gave one vape then dry hits. i know it is for sure the juice because after i tried this juice i proceeded to put back my other regular flavors and they all worked fine again. did i just get some super thick 200 percent vg juice? does anyone actually vape 100 percent real vg juice with ceramic wicks? if this juice was indeed 100 vg then i suppose my regular juices that i have been vaping for the past year is closer to 40pg/60vg.

All of my juices are 100 percent vg Vap and I have used them from the start. Never had a problem. Normal break-in dramas aside, once they are up and going I can chain vape on them all day. I think the heat transfer from the wick into the juice tank makes them a bit runnier as well.
 

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That was a great read and thanks for posting. It makes a lot of sense. Being able to cover more of the wick with your wire will of course liberate more vapor. As far as what will put more drain on my batteries, to tell your the truth I don't really care. I just want the tastiest full-bodied vapor possible. The lowest resistance wire I have at the moment is 30g but I really want to give some 28g and some 0.8 ribbon a go very soon. Anyone tried the 0.8 ribbon using the EAW wrap on the new wicks as yet? Logically, the ribbon will give the best coverage possible, just not sure how easy it is to work with.

i have read that post before but its been quite a while ago. i do remember it being very interesting. i tried the 0.8 ribbon and liked it alot, although i did have a harder time getting the coils on as tightly as round, eventually i got it just right and it was rocking, just not sure the performance was that much different. now i do believe the newer 1/8 slotted wicks, which to me perform better, but are slightly more fragile then the older wicks, might be a little harder to wrap with the ribbon.
 

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All of my juices are 100 percent vg Vap and I have used them from the start. Never had a problem. Normal break-in dramas aside, once they are up and going I can chain vape on them all day. I think the heat transfer from the wick into the juice tank makes them a bit runnier as well.

the set-ups that i tried them in were all broke in already, so i just vaped for maybe 10 vapes and took out. you think that if i were to have given it more time the juice would of thinned down a little? i have heard people saying before and never paid to much attension to it that alot of companys say their juice is 100vg but it isnt. would you say that your juice is the consistancy of mollases in january? thats what this juice is.
 

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That was a great read and thanks for posting. It makes a lot of sense. Being able to cover more of the wick with your wire will of course liberate more vapor. As far as what will put more drain on my batteries, to tell your the truth I don't really care. I just want the tastiest full-bodied vapor possible. The lowest resistance wire I have at the moment is 30g but I really want to give some 28g and some 0.8 ribbon a go very soon. Anyone tried the 0.8 ribbon using the EAW wrap on the new wicks as yet? Logically, the ribbon will give the best coverage possible, just not sure how easy it is to work with.

Timing is everything...... .8mm ribbon Elias hot wrap on the new wick.

 

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VG is thick as molasses up here in the Northeast during the winter. Check out this chart on VG viscosity. Its a bit busy, but if you compare pure 100% to say 80 or 90% VG (think added PG based flavor or a bit of distilled water), viscosity drops significantly. And as it heats from room temp. (20 degree in the NE US/30 degree in the FL?) viscosity drops as well.

Capillary action/wicking is significantly effected by viscosity. Lower being better....

Glycerine Viscosity.jpg
 

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the set-ups that i tried them in were all broke in already, so i just vaped for maybe 10 vapes and took out. you think that if i were to have given it more time the juice would of thinned down a little? i have heard people saying before and never paid to much attension to it that alot of companys say their juice is 100vg but it isnt. would you say that your juice is the consistancy of mollases in january? thats what this juice is.
Well January is pretty hot over here but I know what you mean. Yeah, like honey. It has been a hot summer here so the juice is fairly easy to work with at room temp. I know my nic base is 100 percent and when I make up my juice using doublers I request 100% vg but I must admit some of these do seem a little thinner than the base juice. So I can't be completely sure about the mixers. Storing the stuff in the fridge I cannot work with it at all and need to wait for it to come up to room temp to use a syringe with it.
 

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the set-ups that i tried them in were all broke in already, so i just vaped for maybe 10 vapes and took out. you think that if i were to have given it more time the juice would of thinned down a little? i have heard people saying before and never paid to much attension to it that alot of companys say their juice is 100vg but it isnt. would you say that your juice is the consistancy of mollases in january? thats what this juice is.

Pure VG is thick and many advertise 100 percent PG but that isn't taking in to account the flavoring. Most flavorings are PG and/or alcohol based so if a juice has a higher percentage of flavoring it's going to be a bit thinner. I do mostly diy at 50/50 and some of my mixtures are as thick as some pre mixes I've bought that said they were 100%vg. Some people also dilute the VG with distilled water to make it easier to work with when mixing so that would make it even thinner. So it really depends, one advertised 100 percent vg can vary in thickness from another.
 

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i have been asked a couple of times what percentage of vg do i vape and i have been replying 100 percent vg, well hopefully i havent driven anybody crazy because of my supposably sucessful results with my supposably 100 vg juice. a couple days ago i ordered some new juice to try(first time in months) because i thought i was vaping 100vg from cov, i ordered this new juice in 100vg mix. when i syringed this juice i knew it was much much thicker then what i have been vaping for the past year. i for some reason always thought cov juices were 100vg, but i guess i was wrong. anyways this new juice was just way to thick for any of my ceramic set-ups. i tried it in all 4 of my set-ups(all different wicks& resistances) and all gave one vape then dry hits. i know it is for sure the juice because after i tried this juice i proceeded to put back my other regular flavors and they all worked fine again. did i just get some super thick 200 percent vg juice? does anyone actually vape 100 percent real vg juice with ceramic wicks? if this juice was indeed 100 vg then i suppose my regular juices that i have been vaping for the past year is closer to 40pg/60vg.

I was having a beatch of a time with 100%VG and the fc wicks, so i cut my diy down to 70/30 VG/PG.......Choo Choo! All aboard.
 

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    My 1st ceramic wick, 5 wraps of 32g wire= 2.3 ohm. hot wrap Elias method. Using vaperon 100% vg Fuzion Frenzy fluid. Coils were perfect day one, no hot spots. But fluid was muted and had to tilt my aga+. But now after 3 days, 3.7v brake in, i took fill screw out last night. VAPE IS AWESOME, PERFECT DRAW EVERY TIME. V is now up to 4.2v, just great flavor & clouds. Nothing i have hits as well, nothing.
     
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    I was having a beatch of a time with 100%VG and the fc wicks, so i cut my diy down to 70/30 VG/PG.......Choo Choo! All aboard.

    the only other 100 percent vg juice that i ever tried was boba's, that was probably a year ago and it vaped fine in my ss mesh set-ups, but since then i have been exclusivly been vaping COV juices which for some reason had thought they were 100vg, maybe they are, and it has something to do with the alcohol base they use. i do believe that this new juice i ordered must not have much flavorings to dilute it because it just doesnt vape good, its definatly like honey.
     

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    My 1st ceramic wick, 5 wraps of 32g wire= 2.3 ohm. hot wrap Elias method. Using vaperon 100% vg Fuzion Frenzy fluid. Coils were perfect day one, no hot spots. But fluid was muted and had to tilt my aga+. But now after 3 days, 3.7v brake in, i took fill screw out last night. VAPE IS AWESOME, PERFECT DRAW EVERY TIME. V is now up to 4.2v, just great flavor & clouds. Nothing i have hits as well, nothing.

    sometimes it just takes a while. i remember the first ceramic set-up i did, it worked ok at best for like the first day or so. i knew it was going to take a while but didnt think it would be that long, but then something happened, it just kicked in and started performing like nothing i ever vaped, love it. i too started with a 32g coil around the same resistance, but that was just to break it in for all my ss mesh set-ups were all with 28 & 30g. at that time i was lead to believe that the wicks had to be broke in, so i then re-coiled with 30g and had to break in the wick again, i then realized that it had more to do with the actual coil that had the break in period and not the wick. this was the first week in feb, and at that point i just wrapped the coil, no hot wrap, no electric wrap, and no cheese cloth. but when i did recoil to the 30g the break in time only took half the time so the wick does actually need a little break in time as well.
     

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    the only other 100 percent vg juice that i ever tried was boba's, that was probably a year ago and it vaped fine in my ss mesh set-ups, but since then i have been exclusivly been vaping COV juices which for some reason had thought they were 100vg, maybe they are, and it has something to do with the alcohol base they use. i do believe that this new juice i ordered must not have much flavorings to dilute it because it just doesnt vape good, its definatly like honey.

    I vape 100% VG almost exclusively with the ceramics (Boba's, Gorilla Juice, and most of my DIYs are at least 90% VG). With a freshly-made wick, I get a dry hit once in a while if I start hitting it too hard, but once they are well broken in (couple of tankfuls), no problem at all. Once the stone heats up, the juice flows as well as a Stainless wick for me.

    If you still have problems with wicking, cut your VG juice about 10% with distilled water and shake vigorously. It won't effect the flavor, and thins it to about the consistency of 70/30 PG/VG. Vodka works to, but may effect the flavor. If you use flavored vodka however, it can add some interesting components to your juice...I have a couple of DIYs that I add various flavored vodkas to that makes them really shine :).

    Works for me....
     
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    I vape 100% VG almost exclusively with the ceramics (Boba's, Gorilla Juice, and most of my DIYs are at least 90% VG). With a freshly-made wick, I get a dry hit once in a while if I start hitting it too hard, but once they are well broken in (couple of tankfuls), no problem at all. Once the stone heats up, the juice flows as well as a Stainless wick for me.

    If you still have problems with wicking, cut your VG juice about 10% with distilled water and shake vigorously. It won't effect the flavor, and thins it to about the consistency of 70/30 PG/VG. Vodka works to, but may effect the flavor. If you use flavored vodka however, it can add some interesting components to your juice...I have a couple of DIYs that I add various flavored vodkas to that makes them really shine :).

    Works for me....

    I sometimes use a couple of ccs of scotch to wash out the tank and clean the wick (swirl around in the tank and pour out through the wick). After filling with juice there is a pleasant hint of scotch in the juice which I enjoy.
     

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    I sometimes use a couple of ccs of scotch to wash out the tank and clean the wick (swirl around in the tank and pour out through the wick). After filling with juice there is a pleasant hint of scotch in the juice which I enjoy.

    Yeah, it's amazing what a little alcohol added to juices can do for them ...you just have to be careful that you don't overdo it...just a few drops per 5ml can make a big difference. If there's a particular flavor in a juice that I like, a few drops of similarly flavored vodka really takes it to a new level....even Boba's with a few drops of coconut vodka in it makes it even better IMHO.

    Just pull out a few mls of your favorite juice & play around a bit....you can come up with lots of interesting combos...but again - don't overdo it at first - a little goes a long way.

    BTW ....Jack Daniels is also a great addition to tobacco juices...it pairs well with most of them :2cool:

    Have fun...
     
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