fc-2000 porous ceramic wick

[gdeal]

That's the technique I used and it works really well. I also found that if you take more care with how you wrap the thread around the wick, you get a better result. Rip is a bit sloppy with his wraps. Try to get the wraps right next to each other so you have complete coverage with a single layer of thread. This way you are sure to eliminate any micro gaps.

Edit: Gauze would work well to. but is slightly more difficult to remove when you clean the ceramic.

 

[ricks]

How much do you put on the wick?

yea, but you dont need cheescloth. gauze pads work. i use ones i got from a hospital. all natural.

 

[DeadPerfect]

Gdeal, i know. i wrap my guaze with perfect wraps. unlike his sloppy method

 

[DeadPerfect]

How much do you put on the wick?

enough tto cover where the coil will be, plus an extra 1/8th on top and bottom to make sure no parrt of the coil is naked. also, you dont need one long piece. if you run out during wrap, just make another piece.

 

[NamVet68]

That's the technique I used and it works really well. I also found that if you take more care with how you wrap the thread around the wick, you get a better result. Rip is a bit sloppy with his wraps. Try to get the wraps right next to each other so you have complete coverage with a single layer of thread. This way you are sure to eliminate any micro gaps.

Edit: Gauze would work well to. but is slightly more difficult to remove when you clean the ceramic.

Looks interesting.....'gonna have to try this on the next one I make...getting tired of the break-in time.
Thanks!

 

[DSmooch]

Gdeal, i know. i wrap my guaze with perfect wraps. unlike his sloppy method

wow there...ain't u glad he came up with it

 

[DeadPerfect]

not a big deal. not like i couldnt. plus, if your gonna do it, do it right

 

[Hello World]

I've been vaping my 2 liquids with these ceramic wicks now for 2 tank fulls so far. I just can't get the flavor yet. I'm using the same wire I used with the mesh wicks. My coils are tight and I'm getting very little build up on the coils. I have not tried the Hot Wrap yet.

Nowadays I 6-volt pulse-anneal the Kanthal wire before even coiling it by connecting the ends to the pos. post and neg screw with the ceramic wick already installed into the genny. The negative fully lined up and screwed down, the pos. post hand-tight only. Then I pulse the Kanthal red-hot for 3-5 seconds about a dozen times or more. Then I quickly remove the pos. post connection and hand-wrap the wire tightly around the wick all within a span of 15 seconds and when done, connect back to the pos. post again.

It seems to me the wire stays more malleable for at least a little while right after it has been thoroughly annealed, and I wrap it around the wick within about 15 seconds of that. All this goes down really fast. It took me about 1/4 tank for it to be fully broken in and has remained so. Don't use 28ga or thicker, use EHW method for that, but for 30ga it works quite OK. I checked the wrap subsequently with a loupe and it's on there real good.

 

[vapdivrr]

thanks mr gdeal for the info.

here is my take on the cheese cloth

 

[vapdivrr]

im going to be selling mine soon, with a pair of 18350 batts

dont think i will get one now that i realized the 1.2 limit

 

[vapdivrr]

the thread does work good but i have found that if you use the least possible amount your wick will not gunk up as much. before the ehw, all my wicks were threaded. at first i used quite a bit but as i did more of them i reduced the amount, this made the wick less gunky, but then agin you spend all this time to make a coil and you want it right the first time, so you dont want not enough as well. for me, the older fc-wicks seemed to hot wrap really well but for some reason the newer wicks do not. has anyone found this to be true? the last coil i hot wrapped came out pretty good but i still had a slight brek in period. previous wicks i was able to hot wrap with no break in period at all. also whats kind of weird is that my 3/32 wick never gets gunky at all, never, and its the best set-up i have, compared to my 1/8 wicks, which every 2 days i have to dry burn for a few seconds.

 

[FrogHat]

I think the 1/8 gunks up because of how long it actually takes the wick to heat up and the coil to cook the juice. I also have to dry burn every couple days....mine gunks up at the top.

 

[gdeal]

Vapdivrr thanks for re-posting that video. (its a must see for those new to ceramic, no hype, just good even commentary on a real solution)

BTW Very good early observation on the extra space in the wick hole. I think that the space is need to optimize the juice feed to the thin wick, I was just taking apart a 3/32 for cleaning and I noticed that if you look down into the space you can see a reservoir of juice clinging to edges between the wick and the hole. The tank was basically empty, but when I pulled the wick, I could see the difference in the amount of juice on the side of the wick at the wick hole point and the part of the wick that was in the empty tank.

I think the new wicks are a bit rougher, but Elias hot wrap is still working for me Maybe I got lucky the first time, I'll see in a bit after I pull the wick from the ultrasonic cleaner and recoil.

 

[DeadPerfect]

why cant you just wet it, and blow through it? it sends the water jetting through the porous areas. did that after grinding down a fish wick. got all the wet gunk out of the crevaces

 

[DeadPerfect]

dont think i will get one now that i realized the 1.2 limit

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[gdeal]

I am not sure of the best way of cleaning these wicks. When I took the ceramic out of the atty, the coil was a mess but after a quick torch it still looked pretty good, just a lot of burn carbon stuff. So rather than sack a good coil, I thought that the ultrasonic cleaner might get most of the residual gunk off. It did a pretty good job. However, when it went back into the atty, it had a nasty burnt taste. I vape through it for about 1/4 tank and it mostly went away. Vapor production increase 200% and it was almost like new, but I am not sure. Maybe I should have just taken the wire off the wick, then cleaned and recoiled.

What are you guys doing?

 

[vapdivrr]

I am not sure of the best way of cleaning these wicks. When I took the ceramic out of the atty, the coil was a mess but after a quick torch it still looked pretty good, just a lot of burn carbon stuff. So rather than sack a good coil, I thought that the ultrasonic cleaner might get most of the residual gunk off. It did a pretty good job. However, when it went back into the atty, it had a nasty burnt taste. I vape through it for about 1/4 tank and it mostly went away. Vapor production increase 200% and it was almost like new, but I am not sure. Maybe I should have just taken the wire off the wick, then cleaned and recoiled.

What are you guys doing?

every now and then i get that burn crudy taste also. it sounds like what you mentioned in this post. for me it happens when the atty is firing with the top cap on and when no vaping is going on. i did it a few times when by accident i held the fire button on for a few seconds without realizing it. it takes a long time before the flavor comes back. not sure why it happened to you after a clean. i think somehow the juice on the wick gets crazed over by excessive heat. was this your ribbon wire that you cleaned? because my 3/32 wick with 30g seems to never need cleaning, seriously it has been coiled for at least 3 to 4 weeks and always looks kind of new, i dont even dry burn it. on the other hand my 1/8 wicks do crud up a little. maybe it is like froggy says, it takes longer for the bigger wick to heat up so it actually is vaporizing much longer, or it is trying to vaporize but is initially unable until the temp is reached, in this instant the juice is just there but not doing much, just collecting until the heat can vaporize it, so there is always more juice on the wick, where as a smaller wick gets wet, then instantly vaporizes, if this is whats happening the smaller wick is vaporizing more efficiently. sorry, didnt mean to ramble on. ramble on, great song. i hear you on the pool of juice around the wick & wick hole, i do think there is a majic distance for this, and on the rsst without the bushing and a 1/8 wick, i think that distance is to far.

 

[Hello World]

I am not sure of the best way of cleaning these wicks. When I took the ceramic out of the atty, the coil was a mess but after a quick torch it still looked pretty good, just a lot of burn carbon stuff. So rather than sack a good coil, I thought that the ultrasonic cleaner might get most of the residual gunk off. It did a pretty good job. However, when it went back into the atty, it had a nasty burnt taste. I vape through it for about 1/4 tank and it mostly went away. Vapor production increase 200% and it was almost like new, but I am not sure. Maybe I should have just taken the wire off the wick, then cleaned and recoiled.

What are you guys doing?

Brush off any crud from wick/coil. Wetburn with about 1ml of PG. After that, it's completely tasteless without any other lingering flavors or juices left on the wick. I never take it out either, don't need to. Never dryburn.

My 1/8+ larger ceramic wicks rarely get gunked up, but then I run low DIY flavoring.

 

[vapdivrr]

as far as the roughness of the newer wicks, it could of been me. i was trying to anneal the wire before hw to see if it made a difference. i was trying a slightly different method in the way i was torching it as well, so maybe it had nothing to do with the wick. but the next hw i did was with an older one and it seemed better, but it could of been just the way i did it, so i am not 100 percent sure. it does seem correct in saying that once a wick gets too irregular that it also becomes harder to get a tighter coil.

 

[vapdivrr]

Brush off any crud from wick/coil. Wetburn with about 1ml of PG. I never take the wick out, don't need to. Never dryburn either.

that is correct, when i say i dry burn there is always juice in the tank. i just fire the coils vertically and blow on then till they heat up. so far i really havent had to take out the wick to clean them. really the only reason i have taken out any of my wicks is just to try different things. like i said before, i have one set up that has been in for like 4 weeks, havent touched it, and it is still fantastic. i like the term wet burn, thats good.