fc-2000 porous ceramic wick

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oops ... yeah; i was wrong from the start. its fc2000.
so i went back to first post and see that the skinnier wicks don't wick well and thick wire is not optimal....

but hot wrap was supposed to fix that....? i am done with this puppy ... for now; until i get a new game plan (like ss mesh).

Before you give up on it - try the Petar-K/drillbit method with your ceramic. I use a 7/64 steel dowel for a 1/8 in wick- wrap it tight as you can around that - set it in the Genny & hook up the negative & positive posts so the wire is snug - "unscrew" the metal dowel & then just replace it with the ceramic wick (twist it slowly in both directions so you don't distort the coil as you are putting it in). Gives you a nice tight coil every time...it will grip the ceramic almost as tightly as a hot wrap if you do it right....less chance of breaking the wick, and no burned fingers!

Give it a try - it might work for you...I haven't done a hot wrap since I played with this technique, and the results have been outstanding.

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thanks... do you know if the DID standard is a 1/8" ? and does it matter if its the grooved fc2k?
Before you give up on it - try the Petar-K/drillbit method with your ceramic. I use a 7/64 steel dowel for a 1/8 in wick- wrap it tight as you can around that - set it in the Genny & hook up the negative & positive posts so the wire is snug - "unscrew" the metal dowel & then just replace it with the ceramic wick (twist it slowly in both directions so you don't distort the coil as you are putting it in). Gives you a nice tight coil every time...it will grip the ceramic almost as tightly as a hot wrap if you do it right....less chance of breaking the wick, and no burned fingers!

Give it a try - it might work for you...I haven't done a hot wrap since I played with this technique, and the results have been outstanding.

Good luck
i have a feelin the grooves are messing me up
 

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thanks... do you know if the DID standard is a 1/8" ? and does it matter if its the grooved fc2k?
i have a feelin the grooves are messing me up

No, the standard DID is under 1/8, but they are easy to drill out (the deck is chromed brass...at least the clones are) I have two DID clones opened up to 1/8 & they are some of my favorite attys. One tip though; make sure to drill them from the bottom to make sure they clear the threads for the topcap without any issues.

It shouldn't matter if you run the grooved, or non-grooved wicks...the key is to have the coils as tight as possible on the ceramic - the grooves don't make that much difference.

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Thinking of trying ceramic. What type and size would I want for RSST?

If you leave the bushing around the wick hole - 1/8 inch wick is perfect (about 3.2mm). If you knock the bushing out - you can easily go up to a 4mm wick, but from my experience, that's probably too big. The ceramics have a bigger "Heat Sink" effect than other wick materiel, so if you go too large, you get a lot of vape-lag (push the button and wait for a few seconds before you get decent vapor).

I've found that the 1/8 inch wicks are perfect in the RSST.... especially the White wicks. I have three RSSTs & have run side-by-side tests with the same juice using different materials for wicking (stainless steel, various ceramics & Nickel Foam) and the 1/8 white wick always came out on top, followed closely by the FC2000 wicks - best flavor, vapor & wicking....at least for me.

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If you leave the bushing around the wick hole - 1/8 inch wick is perfect (about 3.2mm). If you knock the bushing out - you can easily go up to a 4mm wick, but from my experience, that's probably too big. The ceramics have a bigger "Heat Sink" effect than other wick materiel, so if you go too large, you get a lot of vape-lag (push the button and wait for a few seconds before you get decent vapor).

I've found that the 1/8 inch wicks are perfect in the RSST.... especially the White wicks. I have three RSSTs & have run side-by-side tests with the same juice using different materials for wicking (stainless steel, various ceramics & Nickel Foam) and the 1/8 white wick always came out on top, followed closely by the FC2000 wicks - best flavor, vapor & wicking....at least for me.

JMHO

Thanks namvet! 1/8 white. I'll look around but if somebody has best places to buy, please post links. Got some videos to watch and a lot of reading while I wait.

I'll find out while I read but does ceramic last a while? As long as SS? And you can dry burn. Right?
 

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Thanks namvet! 1/8 white. I'll look around but if somebody has best places to buy, please post links. Got some videos to watch and a lot of reading while I wait.

I'll find out while I read but does ceramic last a while? As long as SS? And you can dry burn. Right?

Best place to get the FC2000 is Discount Vapers. They charge $12 for a pack of 3.

FC-2000 Ceramic Wick 1/8th

I use the FC2000 and I have been using the same wicks for over 3 months now. They will last if you can keep from breaking them. All you have to do to clean is run water through the tank and then dry burn till clean.
 

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Thanks namvet! 1/8 white. I'll look around but if somebody has best places to buy, please post links. Got some videos to watch and a lot of reading while I wait.

I'll find out while I read but does ceramic last a while? As long as SS? And you can dry burn. Right?

^ What Mr Lhartman said. I have ceramic wicks running now for well over four months that I use daily...just a quick rinse with distilled water & dry-burn the wick/coil about every third tankful, and they are as good as (or even better) than new. A new wick usually takes a tankful or so to break in, and after that, if you don't break them, they just seem to get better, and with proper care, should literally last for years.

BTW - While the consensus right now is that the White Wicks are the best, they are strictly a DIY proposition at this time. Skim through this thread & there are some great videos on how to make them:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/362182-next-big-thing-porous-ceramic-wicks.html

The easiest source for the white wick materiel is a seller on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310626232380?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Have fun
 
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Wasn't there a German company that makes white wicks? They aren't like Boden's material. I thought the name was something like Rausch.... or something like that.

If they were the ones that Dan (Scubabatdan) tested (I believe it was the same company) - they didn't work well at all. It's about 3/4 of the way through the thread I posted earlier. They were extremely brittle, and didn't wick well at all....again, that's assuming they are made of the same material he tested.
 

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oops ... yeah; i was wrong from the start. its fc2000.
so i went back to first post and see that the skinnier wicks don't wick well and thick wire is not optimal....

but hot wrap was supposed to fix that....? i am done with this puppy ... for now; until i get a new game plan (like ss mesh).

hey buddy, bummer that your having issues with the slotted fc's. it seems like the rounds worked pretty good for you but not the slotted's. although i had occasional issues for the most part the slotted worked out pretty good. it seems like you are doing everything correctly but just not having the results. you say you are using nichrome? have you tried doing the same with kanthal? it may possibly have nothing to do with it but i have seen some issues with nichrome before. i know it worked with the round wicks so it would seem like it should work with the slotted's but maybe there is more to it. if you ever wanted to give it another go, maybe try the kanthal wire.
 

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hey buddy, bummer that your having issues with the slotted fc's. it seems like the rounds worked pretty good for you but not the slotted's. although i had occasional issues for the most part the slotted worked out pretty good. it seems like you are doing everything correctly but just not having the results. you say you are using nichrome? have you tried doing the same with kanthal? it may possibly have nothing to do with it but i have seen some issues with nichrome before. i know it worked with the round wicks so it would seem like it should work with the slotted's but maybe there is more to it. if you ever wanted to give it another go, maybe try the kanthal wire.
will do... a few days have passed, and i'm game for another go with my DID.
at least my Hydra is still going strong; will be due for its 3rd cleaning.
I can always use eko or nextel as a "sock" that works great; just gunks up in no time; but should be easy to wash and dry burn too; especially the ceramic nextel (which i don't have yet -just the XS which is silica not as tough...)...
 

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Funny thing, I am running the 7/64" wick in my iHybrid Pure and it isn't working for crap. 1.1 ohm coil hot wrapped and the whole coil is heating up like the wick can't keep up. I really hate the round wicks...... The 1/8" slotted work great in my RSST's. I think it might also be due to the wick hole not being much bigger than the wick so juice can't flow around the wick.
 
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^ What Mr Lhartman said. I have ceramic wicks running now for well over four months that I use daily...just a quick rinse with distilled water & dry-burn the wick/coil about every third tankful, and they are as good as (or even better) than new. A new wick usually takes a tankful or so to break in, and after that, if you don't break them, they just seem to get better, and with proper care, should literally last for years.

BTW - While the consensus right now is that the White Wicks are the best, they are strictly a DIY proposition at this time. Skim through this thread & there are some great videos on how to make them:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/362182-next-big-thing-porous-ceramic-wicks.html

The easiest source for the white wick materiel is a seller on eBay:

6 Piece Lot 1 2 x 2 x 7" Aluminum Oxide Die Rub Stones 60 Grit USA New | eBay

Have fun

I don't know about DIY. What do you need a gringer or something? (I've still got a LOT of reading to do in these threads. :))

Are these not as good as the white ones?

FC-2000 Ceramic Wick 1/8th 3 Pack - Kidney Puncher
 

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I don't know about DIY. What do you need a gringer or something? (I've still got a LOT of reading to do in these threads. :))

Are these not as good as the white ones?

FC-2000 Ceramic Wick 1/8th 3 Pack - Kidney Puncher

Some guys have all kinds of fancy wet-saws, grinders & stuff, but all you really need is a Dremel tool & a diamond wheel to do the job (and a little water to make the job less messy).

If you want to give the ceramics a try - the FC-2000 are great, and may be fine for you - the White wicks are definitely better, but there's nothing wrong with the FC-2000. The biggest difference between the two is fragility (the White wicks are a bit more robust), and have a slightly "cleaner" flavor... but its pretty subtle. If you are going to make your own, just start with the white materiel...if you are just going to purchase them pre-made - the FC-2000 are the way to go.

Have fun


EDIT: I found Dan's (scubabatdan) video on how to make the ceramic wicks. He made these with Top Fin Bubble-stones (the first ceramic material we used), but the process is pretty-much the same for making the White Wicks - just the different material:

http://youtu.be/4XZn-dYhUa8

BTW - if you wet the material down, and keep it wet while cutting, it makes it far less dusty & the wheel cuts the ceramic much more easily, and the wheel lasts longer. Be sure to either boil them (or run them through an ultrasonic (jewelery) cleaner after you are finished to get all the loose grit off of the wick. He also recently recommended soaking them in lemon juice for about a half-hour (before boiling/ultrasonic) to make sure any residue from the manufacturing process is neutralized.
 
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Funny thing, I am running the 7/64" wick in my iHybrid Pure and it isn't working for crap. 1.1 ohm coil hot wrapped and the whole coil is heating up like the wick can't keep up. I really hate the round wicks...... The 1/8" slotted work great in my RSST's. I think it might also be due to the wick hole not being much bigger than the wick so juice can't flow around the wick.

its funny how different results can be. most seem to have better results when there is a gap so juice can flow on the outside of the wick.
 
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