FDA Forcing Me To Smoke Again

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Asbestos4004

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Inawera Shisha Strawberry 16%
TFA DX Bavarian Cream 6%
TFA Vanilla Swirl 4.5%
CAP Sweet Cream 2%
TFA Sweetener 2% - 3%

That's the original -- as I mentioned, I've cut down all the flavors except the sweetener by 5%, and it's still awesome; still a gunker too, but not quite as badly. I actually use 3.1% sweetener, but most folks would probably be happier around 2% sweetener.

Andria
30-32% flavoring? Whoa Nellie
 
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The FDA and most other ABC gov't. agencies, their employees, and most other individuals can NOT force you to do anything. At all. Unless you intended to do it anyway.

Ever hear of President Obama and Obama Care?

Ever hear of the county clerk in Kentucky sent to jail for 6 days because she refused to do marriage licenses for Homosexuals?

Every hear of the IRS confiscating bank accounts?

Ever hear of the DEA confiscating property because a Marijuana grower secretly planted some pot on a neighbors property.

Ever hear of the EPA stepping in and preventing families from building a home on their own land because water gathers in a low area of the property in the rainy season.

AMERICA IS NO LONGER THR LAND OF TGE FREE AND TGE HOME OF THE BRAVE.

people are addicted to nicotine; and if the FDA bans ECigs they won't have any choice but go back to analogs.

I am very glad to almost weaned myself off nic. Gone from 18 mg and now doing kinda OK with 1 mg.

Five years ago I begged my sister (after receiving her second Masters degree to accept a job in Asia.
 

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Thank you. Are these high quality and tested for DI/AP flavors? Just wondering...

Big hatley.

TFA IS The Flavors Apprentice. Sister site to the perfumers apprentice. They have some of the best flavors out there. I was already affiliated with TPA and saw no need to go through the other door.
 

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Thank you. Are these high quality and tested for DI/AP flavors? Just wondering...

AFAIK, it's diketone-free -- Inawera is very high quality (and rather expensive) but they haven't posted anything one way or the other on the presence or absence of diketones, so I don't really know for sure about that one -- I just know it's the only strawberry flavor I've tried that tastes like actual strawberries instead of watered-down artificial strawberry koolaid.

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people are addicted to nicotine; and if the FDA bans ECigs they won't have any choice but go back to analogs.

I have lots of choice -- 10 yrs' worth of nicotine in my freezer. They ain't forcing me to do ANYTHING.

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Not yet. But the new vapers won't have the choice you or I have. Their choice would be either analogs or cigalikes.

Yep, and that's unfortunate, but no one is forcing current vapers to do anything, if they have planned ahead and stocked up -- this has been coming for a long time. Vaping will NOT die, as long as there are any of us doing it -- that ship has sailed, that cat is out of the bag, and EVENTUALLY, the truth will out. It always does. The truth remains the truth, no matter what anyone says about it.

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Sorry, I'm a newbie to this site, LOL. Here's something I wrote:

Dear Sir

After over 30 years of smoking, I was finally able to stop, thanks to
the life-saving new vaping products. This dramatically improved my
life, and I have been tobacco free for over 2 years now.

...

If vaping is no longer available:

I WILL BE FORCED TO START SMOKING AGAIN

This will be all of our politicians reading your letter:
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Yep, and that's unfortunate, but no one is forcing current vapers to do anything, if they have planned ahead and stocked up -- this has been coming for a long time. Vaping will NOT die, as long as there are any of us doing it -- that ship has sailed, that cat is out of the bag, and EVENTUALLY, the truth will out. It always does. The truth remains the truth, no matter what anyone says about it.

Andria

I have made the rulings of the FDA and Washington DC irrelevant. As you have and others have as well.

I was NOT talking about you, myself and other advanced VAPERS.

I was talking about newbies that are using tanks with premade coils and think wrapping coils and DIYing EJuice is beyond them.

If this bad law comes down and vaping goes away; they would be forced to either cigalikes or analogs
 
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I have made the rulings of the FDA and Washington DC irrelevant. As you have and others have as well.

I was NOT talking about you, myself and other advanced VAPERS.

I was talking about newbies that are using tanks with premade coils and think wrapping coils and DIYing EJuice is beyond them.

If this bad law comes down and vaping goes away; they would be forced to either cigalikes or analogs

For a while, quite possibly. But I have faith that that situation will not stand for too long, if in fact it does come down as draconian as we all fear it might. There are millions of vapers in this country alone -- that is millions of people who have learned the truth of vaping for themselves. I do think at some point we can turn the tide -- as I said before, the truth remains true, no matter what lies are told about it, and the American people do have ways of making their opinions matter to our gov't -- they may think they're running things, but it seems a lot of them have forgotten that they're doing it because we elected them to do it, and we can elect others instead of them -- and even the non-elected pinheads, somebody elected probably got them their job, and they can be removed from it, given enough outrage by the People, and some new elected person putting someone else in that job.

The truth will always out. It might take a while... but it's inevitable.

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I have made the rulings of the FDA and Washington DC irrelevant. As you have and others have as well.

I was NOT talking about you, myself and other advanced VAPERS.

I was talking about newbies that are using tanks with premade coils and think wrapping coils and DIYing EJuice is beyond them.

If this bad law comes down and vaping goes away; they would be forced to either cigalikes or analogs
I guess we should be start giving some thought how best to make those rules irrelevant for others as well.
 
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