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FDA may soon propose regulation that could ban many/most e-cigarette products, eliminate many/most companies

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Fiamma

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vaping across the USA you should see some of the looks I get using my e-Vic. LOL Then I start talking to myself, make the driving seem like less monotonous. I have an idea, if big pharma, can get patents, for drugs such as ......, and when the patent expires, they re-issue it as "niagra" well, when the FDA deems "e-cigarettes", let's start selling and using "steam puffs"! Then they'll have to waste more American people's tax dollars to start their evil ANTZ campaign all over again from the start. Thank you Shakespeare "what's in a name.... a cigarette stinks no matter what you call it, but vaping is good no matter what a rose by any other name would still smell and taste as sweeeeet!":banana::thumbs:

Catchy name "steam puffs". And somewhat descriptive of what we use. Think we could get e cig vendors behind this? Provape steam puff, VAMO steam puff, ZMax steam puff. Boggles the mind. We could call juice liquid centers?
 

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Anyone who thinks the FDA, or any government agency, actually cares about the health or well being of the citizens is being ignorant. Its all about money. For the government to try to stop e cigs from being legal, keeping (other stuff) illegal, while analog cigarettes remain fully legal proves this. Everyone knows analog cigarettes are dangerous and deadly. But the potential financial disaster the could happen if analog cigarettes became illegal is something the government wants to avoid (but won't openly admit). Electronic cigarettes takes sales away from analog cigarettes. Until the government can find a way to make exorbitant tax revenue from the sale of e cigs, or until the FDA receives large enough bribes from the e cig industry, they are going to keep trying to prevent US citizens from being abld to buy them. Please reevaluate your beliefs of a government who actually gives a s**t about its people if you think that.
On another note, I do think about the consideration of what the long term effects of e cigs may due to us. In my opinion it is not correct to assume that ecigs long term are safe or safer than cigarettes. People did that a long time ago with cigarettes until it was proven dangerous. But I am addicted to the throat hit and the nicotine, so for now I would rather use ecigs which make me feel better now and may or may not cause health problems later in life, versus analog cigarettes which make me feel like crap when done now and I know will cause problems later. But one day I may try to cold turkey off nicotine completely, if for nothing else to save money.

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Anyone who thinks the FDA, or any government agency, actually cares about the health or well being of the citizens is being ignorant. Its all about money. For the government to try to stop e cigs from being legal, keeping (other stuff) illegal, while analog cigarettes remain fully legal proves this. Everyone knows analog cigarettes are dangerous and deadly. But the potential financial disaster the could happen if analog cigarettes became illegal is something the government wants to avoid (but won't openly admit). Electronic cigarettes takes sales away from analog cigarettes. Until the government can find a way to make exorbitant tax revenue from the sale of e cigs, or until the FDA receives large enough bribes from the e cig industry, they are going to keep trying to prevent US citizens from being abld to buy them. Please reevaluate your beliefs of a government who actually gives a s**t about its people if you think that.
On another note, I do think about the consideration of what the long term effects of e cigs may due to us. In my opinion it is not correct to assume that ecigs long term are safe or safer than cigarettes. People did that a long time ago with cigarettes until it was proven dangerous. But I am addicted to the throat hit and the nicotine, so for now I would rather use ecigs which make me feel better now and may or may not cause health problems later in life, versus analog cigarettes which make me feel like crap when done now and I know will cause problems later. But one day I may try to cold turkey off nicotine completely, if for nothing else to save money.

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I can definitely agree -- I am no Native American but I can concur with the philosophy:
"Sure you can trust the government, ask any Indian!"

I have Never trusted them, and never will - at least not until they can prove themselves trust worthy.

One thing I see though - they can effectively tax e-cigarettes without it harming the actual cigarette industry
and by doing so, the cigarette industry would not really lose because they are jumping on the band wagon to
sell e-cigs.

I believe the government knows there is money to be had from them so they may not ban them or make them
illegal, but I do see them regulating them for quality and safety reasons.

No one knows for sure but if the FDA, CDC, and other government offices touch it (anything), it will be ruined
in some way.

I don't see any long term adverse affects from e-cigs... if it were the case, then hundreds of other products
that have been in use for decades now would be causing problems. There are hundreds of products with the
same exact ingredients that we breathe in every day while eating, cooking, going to a concert, etc., and no
one has ever suffered ill effects from Fog machines, food flavors, or nicotine use yet that I am aware of.

That is what really gets me about all of this:

The FDA has approved for years, the use of nicotine in their own crap, they have approved food flavors for
everything from candy to medicines, they have approved PG and VG for a wide variety of human uses including
medical.... yet put these things together and the FDA has a problem?

Are people so (excuse the term but I can't say the other here) Fornicationally Blind that they can't see
the Contradictions in the approval of substances for one thing but the disapproval for another?

Baffling! Simply Baffling!
 

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Though, I like your stance, as far as the corruption in our Government's Agencies, primarily that being the FDA. I am a bit dismayed, that you worry about the long term effects of nicotine usage? I am sure that nicotine, has been studied, for ions as it is published available scientific information, that it does not accumulate or stay in the body after a short period of time. The fear mongering that ALA, AHA, AMA, ACS and ANTZ in general, it's all about the money, the profits, that Big Pharma, forty years ago, realized, the biggest ever population base of over the age of 50, would grace the planet all at once, and they anticipated smoking related diseases. Just think how much it bother's the money grubbers, who make money in a parasitical manner off the ill's of smokers!!! Do, what you wish, I am not afraid to vape until my old age, which, I am already arrived at. 59 LOL. The 40 years of smoking had me at the beginning stages of COPD and Chronic Bronchitus, since vaping almost 3 years now, with hardly a smoke, in all that time, I can ride a bicycle forty miles. I can climb stairs without breathlessness. LOL, I just moved to a 7,000 ft. elevation. I can still feel smokings effects, in this elevation, however, I love my nicotine. :vapor::rickroll:
 

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Though, I like your stance, as far as the corruption in our Government's Agencies, primarily that being the FDA. I am a bit dismayed, that you worry about the long term effects of nicotine usage? I am sure that nicotine, has been studied, for ions as it is published available scientific information, that it does not accumulate or stay in the body after a short period of time. The fear mongering that ALA, AHA, AMA, ACS and ANTZ in general, it's all about the money, the profits, that Big Pharma, forty years ago, realized, the biggest ever population base of over the age of 50, would grace the planet all at once, and they anticipated smoking related diseases. Just think how much it bother's the money grubbers, who make money in a parasitical manner off the ill's of smokers!!! Do, what you wish, I am not afraid to vape until my old age, which, I am already arrived at. 59 LOL. The 40 years of smoking had me at the beginning stages of COPD and Chronic Bronchitus, since vaping almost 3 years now, with hardly a smoke, in all that time, I can ride a bicycle forty miles. I can climb stairs without breathlessness. LOL, I just moved to a 7,000 ft. elevation. I can still feel smokings effects, in this elevation, however, I love my nicotine. :vapor::rickroll:

Oh... I think you may have misunderstood what I was meaning -- I have no worries about long term
effects of Nicotine Use.
 
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Hi people,

I'm pretty new to this whole Vaping thing and after 40 years of a pack/day of analogs, I'm now at two weeks without any analogs. I was interested in the current legislation/regulation and decided to review this thread. However, 900+ posts that go back a few years is somewhat of a slow way for me to understand where this country is currently at with regard to regulating vaping. Can someone please post something like the current state of the laws/regulations?

I recently ordered a few items from Greece (mainly a battery mod and RBA) but while on the site also ordered a few small bottles of juice. My order is currently held up in customs as the invoice had a description of "stainless steel flashlight parts and supplies" and customs wants a detailed line by line description of each item. Is it against the law to import a ecig battery mod? Is it against the law to import ejuice with or without nic? Is it against the law to import an atomizer?

It certainly was not my intention to break any laws as I find the prospect of living out my few remaining years in the crowbar hotel rather unpleasant.

Some education from this group will be greatly appreciated.

BB

Hi BlackBag and welcome to the world of being smoke-free. For a quick history of the FDA versus e-cigarettes and why we have deep concerns about how the FDA would choose to regulate these products see the dialog going on in responses #17 through 28 in this thread: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-cigarette-sales-spur-call-regulations-2.html
 

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Funny thing -- there has yet to be any response at all from the We The People Petition but....

They were sure quick on responding to the petition for making the Unlocking of Cell Phones Legal again.
I received an email covering the response to the more than 114,000 signatures that one received.
Another "funny thing" -- 114,000+ signatures on that petition but less than 30,000 on the one regarding
e-cigarettes.

Just another instance of "Shows where their priorities and heads are at".

By this alone, it would appear that people are more concerned with "Comfort and Convenience" than they
are regarding their own health or the health of their families, our children, and the environment!

Sure, the unlocking of cell phones should be legal because there are laws that protect consumers from
being held "slaves to a product or company" and once you have bought your phone and may want to change
providers or use apps from another provider, you should be able to do so... but...
there are more, very serious concerns over public health which far more important to address than petitions
on "Jail-breaking" Cell Phones and Tablets.

Is it any wonder the USA can't fix our own economy and is only getting us deeper into problems?
 
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