I think this worth a new thread here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/campaigning/13151-now-time-act-i-am-serious-updated-28.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/campaigning/13151-now-time-act-i-am-serious-updated-28.html
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Tugger--my take---Smoke 51 would be the 3rd if this e-mail is correct--Sun
Ruyan has a presence in the US - but they don't actively sell here - so I'm thinking they're out....
My guess for 3rd would be either Janty or Smoke51.
We'll know on the 5th. Smoke 'em if you got 'em has never been so apt.
I take this as the most telling statement - this is the beginning of nicotine prohibition.
My guess for 3rd would be either Janty or Smoke51.
We'll know on the 5th. Smoke 'em if you got 'em has never been so apt.
I take this as the most telling statement - this is the beginning of nicotine prohibition.
What I am really interested in knowing is, is this going to affect just people RESELLING the products or also the people who are simply buying them for their own personal uses.
The FDA cannot stop people from buying items in China or wherever else for their personal use. It's more of a ban on people trying to aquire mass quantity to resell.
I hate to say this but as a consumer I don't personally feel all that affected by it. I don't need to order a huge box of a lifetime supply of parts and liquids if I can still just order small quantities as needed.
Judging by everything I am reading it does not sound like they are making it illegal to vape. They are just making it illegal for people to sell these products.
The FDA cannot stop people from buying items in China or wherever else for their personal use. It's more of a ban on people trying to aquire mass quantity to resell.
I hate to say this but as a consumer I don't personally feel all that affected by it. I don't need to order a huge box of a lifetime supply of parts and liquids if I can still just order small quantities as needed.
Judging by everything I am reading it does not sound like they are making it illegal to vape. They are just making it illegal for people to sell these products.
I believe the import notice is FDA 66-41. Near the top of that list of confiscated items, you will read that personal delivery of a banned product is illegal. It says there is great misunderstanding about this point, but you in fact cannot order one from China or anywhere else if e-cigs are banned. The restriction is not just for large orders, but for all orders of any size.
I just posted this same thought in another thread, but it's revalant....
If we were to mfg everything for PV's in the states???? We've got battery mods abounding, JC making the juice, all we need are the attys....
Were are the modders? Reverse engineer the darn things, already! Who wouldn't pay more for an atty with better performance made in the USA? If we can't import 'em, let's make 'em here!
If we were to mfg everything for PV's in the states???? We've got battery mods abounding, JC making the juice, all we need are the attys....
Were are the modders? Reverse engineer the darn things, already! Who wouldn't pay more for an atty with better performance made in the USA? If we can't import 'em, let's make 'em here!
I have JUST found these, should I order more now? Darn, just darn. Seriously, the only thing I probably need is more juice. Maybe a couple of batteries and a couple of atomizers, but I already have 6 batteries and about 10 atomizers, do you think I need more? I have maybe 50 ml of liquid.
You still have time. Don't make no hasty decisions. When you do order, i would order from a supplier locally tho. Customs might get a little tougher.
If the FDA makes e-cigs illegal what are they going to take away next? Weed? .......?
Seriously, I know 50 times more people that smoke weed than use PV's.
I am not going to panic. If we want them, we can get them. If they want to label me as a criminal for pv's so be it. I can live with that. It's all just bureaucratic bs.
Seriously, I know 50 times more people that smoke weed than use PV's.
I am not going to panic. If we want them, we can get them. If they want to label me as a criminal for pv's so be it. I can live with that. It's all just bureaucratic bs.
I'm with you - heck I haven't got to do anything illegal for what.... 13 or so years... its about time!
Personal EMS packages will still get through IMO. Time to lock into a chinese supplier.
If they make them illegal I assume it would be also illegal to manufacture them in the U.S
I have a shipement currently on Hold since the 11th of April with the FDA/Customs. No word, No action, just a we will be investigating at some point! I have a lot of friends in the business, and I know of one who just had a box of only a couple kits and a few e-liquids get stopped.
The FDA has said all along that they are handling this on a case by case basis. And this is how it should play out. One by one, they will choke the suppliers. One by one, they will jam the businesses. One by one, the prices will rise. One by one, we shall wither and die.
...It is the American way!
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